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seeker407 |
My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 3:44 PM EDT
| Post edited: Apr 4 2010, 4:06 PM EDT
My plan involves a few basics:1. Mobility 2. Flexibility 3. Security 4. Deployability 5. Communication 1. Mobility... is extremly important. I have a truck that has a 25 unleaded fuel gallon tank, and a 15 gallon Compresed Natural Gas tank.. which gives me a range of 500 miles +/- 25 miles... My truck can hold 6 people (a bit cramed.. but hey) And cargo in the back... because its a F250 I can haul atleast a 6x12 single or double axel trailer which allows for a lot more provisions to be hauled... Mobility allows me to come and go as I please, and to move myself and others to safer locations. It is my 1st priority (no way you can stock enough ammo to fight off zombies in a city populated with 1.5 million people) 2. Flexibility - Examples are: -My truck: can run off of 2 types of fuels... which means more options -Guns chambered in 5.56x45 NATO (which can also use .223 US military rounds)... 7.62x39 (russian round fired in guns such as the AK-47) or the .308 (rifles chambered inthis round can also fire the 7.62x51 NATO), 9mm, .22LR, .357, or 12 gauge... any other rifling is unacceptable (these are the most popular, and thus will be the most plentiful ammo) -Flexibility is key to adapting with changing circumstances... 3. Security: here is the weapon lay out I will carry on my person if something like this was to happen: Main Firearm: DEPENDING ON situation, as my main firearm I will use: -Mossberg 500A Persuader (12gauge, 20inch barrel, 8+1 capacity) -Ak47 BULLPUP! (the bullpup design should be used whenever possible to save space) with bulgarian 75 drum magazine -M17S Bushmaster bullpup, chambered with the 5.56x45 NATO with 120 round drum magazine 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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seeker407 |
1. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 3:57 PM EDT
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B. Sidearm:Either -Springfield XD(M) 9mm - this has a 4.5" barrel with a 19+1 ammo capacity -Glock 17 C - the C represents that it has compensated barrel to add accuracy. Once again this is a 9mm pistol, it has a (edit)17+1 capacity, can also accept 19 or 33 round mags. C. Back up Haven't looked too much into this one... but probably: -TAURUS 650 "CIA" - snub nose, .357 revolver with a 5 capacity. hammerless as to avoid mishaps D. Knife -Buck 184 survival knife (this has a hollowed handle) Other Firearms: Sniper rifle: once agian, havent looked to much, but something chambered in .308 and has a detachable box magazine. Probably something like the remington 700 In the event that something like this really did happen, I would eventually weld onto my truck a gunning turret that could accept the Squad Automatic Weapons (M249 - uses the 5.56x45 NATO round... remember this could aslo use the .223 round that our troops use currently) I would also put 2 gunning turrets on my trailer... one in front facing foward, and another on the rear facing rearward. Also, a reloader is needed a Lee LoadMaster will do... each gun should have a brass catcher if it can have one... you should keep as much brass as you can, and whenever possible collect gun powder, primers, and bullets 4. Deployability: This is basically the ability to settle down. I feel you can "settle" anywere if you have these items: - generator that could run off of multiple fuels (CNG, unleaded, ethonal, etc.) - multi-gas compressor - Mechanic general tool box - sleeping bags - Cutting material (to harvest lumber) - lots of LED light bulbs - HAM radio (the truck will be a moblie repeater with an antenna of 10 feet, the trailer will be a mobile repeater station with an antenna length of 25 ft... Do you find this valuable? |
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2. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 4:16 PM EDT
- one thing that many of you might find weird, but I will definitley have... AIRPLANE! if you tihnk its not practicle google "rv-4" on the internet and look at this airplane. I will give a brief description about it: RV-4 - fully aerobatic lightweight, homebuilt airplane - costs between $50,000 - $75,000 - 1 pilot, 1 passenger, 50lbs of gear in back - max ceiling of 23,000 ft. - range of 500 miles - take off/landing distance of 425 ft - can be broken down for transportation My reason for having this on the list is for recon. think about it, a human (or group of humans) probably wont move more than 20 miles a day (Okay so I have run more than that in 4 hours... marathon... but I was dead for the next few days, so lets just assume they aren't super human) If you did a recon mission every week (flying about 200 miles in each direction) you could have a 10 days heads up on anything approaching your way! good deal to me! Not to mention you could probably put some sort of simple weapons platform on it... maybe a gun or a few bombs or both. 5. Communication: it is CRITICAL that you have communication as much as possible.. I will have HAM radio on all of my systems... Even the air plane (even dirt bikes!) In the mobile trailer, I figure since I might have the room, i'd make a moble radio tower that can communicate or at least listen to all frequencies... with the ability to uplink with friendly satellites. Also a note with my mechanical systems. You might have noticed I mention CNG a lot... well the reason is: North America (where I live, and would stay) has PLENTY of Natural Gas... thus if you can take over a CNG plant, and could find a mechanic that works with CNG, (and get some supplies) you could convert/fix/maintain all mechanical components indefinitely! Do you find this valuable? |
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3. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 4:31 PM EDT
Okay last post for now... Personal Gear: Okay for my weapons lay out, see above (SECURITY) besides that check this out: DEPENDING on current weather: 1st layer: cotton underwear (black or gray boxer briefs, and black or gray A frame (wife beater) 2nd layer: Under Armor - cold gear (thermal leggings and turtle neck) Color: Black (note: if it is cold, drop the cotton layer before mentioned, and use this as 1st) 3rd layer: Polypropylene socks, leggings, shirt, mask (this stuff ROCKS) color: brown(black if possible) 4th Layer: Wool socks, ACU (Army Combat Uniform) Trousers(pants) and blouse (jacket) along with hat (optional) and black Gore-tex boots 5th Layer: ECWS (Extreme Cold Weather) pants and jacket (Probably would be white at this point, if not, ACU pattern) That covers clothing... I personally have worn all layers except ECWS and been just fine in cold winter of Utah mountains 6th Layer: Armor (if you can find dragon skin, use that... other wise, Interceptor Body Armor) ACU pattern 7th Layer: Load bearing equipment: I have a LBV (load bearing vest) that came from vietnam, it has a heavy duty belt clip. I have modified it heavily to hold : - thigh pistol platform (pistol, and 4 extra magazines) (on right leg) - basic medical kit - radio - gas mask kit (on left leg) - basic supplies such as food (found on back, on the belt) - integrated camel back (can be detached) with 3 Liters (quarts) of water Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 4:36 PM EDT
And of coures you need your pack... I have a ACU pack that:- holds my sleeping bag (4 part military bag) - any gear I might need -- I'd probably put my gas mask in there b/c its so bulky on my left leg. -- climbing gear... just in case -- anything else my current mission calls for (NVG, Ammo, portable cutting torch, water filter, etc.) NOTE: I CURRENTLY have everything I have listed so far in all these posts, except the guns, HAM radio and certain personal gear stuff like cutting torch, armor, etc. I'll try to get a picture or a youtube video of all my stuff someday... My plan would be to try and settle somewhere in the mid south of the United States... where there is proven BILLIONS of metic tons of natural gas...plus longer seasons to grow stuff and warmth is easier to survive in. ... well I think that about sums it up...i'll probably make a few edits here and there.... -James Do you find this valuable? |
AlexHigginbotham |
5. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 4:37 PM EDT
1. How are you going to be mobile, especially in a city, where all the roads are going to be crowded with rubble and abandoned cars.2. Can a gasoline engine even run off natural gas? Gas engines are really picky. 3. Are you currently stocking up on ammo? There won't be a lot laying around, even in common calibers. 4. Thats a lot of weapons. How are those getting lugged around? Ok, no more. I completely stopped reading when I got to the part about gun turrets. Try again. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 4:57 PM EDT
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"1. How are you going to be mobile, especially in a city, where all the roads are going to be crowded with rubble and abandoned cars.lol... 1. who said I would be using roads? haha my truck is an off roading rig... it wouldnt be too hard to upgrade a trailer to accept 32 super swampers and have a ground clearance of 8"inces 2. well I CURRENTLY DRIVE a F-250 bi-fuel truck... so yes they can... but you have to have the right mechanic to convert one to do so... Diesel engines can as well, once again you need to have a mechanic to do the ground work on them... edit: heres proof... and yes that is me and my truck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZBK77Pn4g 3. I edited one of my posts, I forgot to mention reloading equpiment, do a google search on "lee LoadMaster" you can pick one up new for $200 - $300. 4. Did you read about the 6x12 trailer I plan to haul around? also.. i dont plan to do this by msyelf... My father has a huge truck and trailer as well... would NOT be difficult at all to haul around a few rifles...plus more and if you knew anything about basic welding you'd see how easy it would be to drill a hole in my truck bed, and drop a hollow 3 inch metal pipe, weld it to the frame, and weld on top of the pipe a gun holder with swivel... not too hard bub.. try again :) Do you find this valuable? |
TheSecondShooter |
7. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 6:10 PM EDT
"2. Can a gasoline engine even run off natural gas? Gas engines are really picky.i have seen this done alot on the farms around where i live so that much i beleave is possible. but i hope you can eat bullets because i seen no plans for food water or shelter. Do you find this valuable? |
Jahadaz |
8. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 6:35 PM EDT
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I'm sorry but I keep reading and re-reading the truck part-They make super swampers in 32's? If so, that's pretty awesome (not being malicious). I am about to buy new tires (dang registration time again!) and I was going to go with Hankook but I might need to re-adjust my plans. -8" isn't that much. Honestly, it's not. My X sits at 9" and I still needed to get sliders and make new skid plates to avoid damaging my truck on the rougher stuff. -Lastly, hauling a trailer with a ball type hitch over rough terrain is not easy. You might want to consider a pintle hitch. If your trailer goes rolling down a hill, don't say I didn't warn you. Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 7:32 PM EDT
I can post article after article about people blowing their fingers off shooting hand loaded ammo. If you don't know what you are doing, you better get good at it before you are forced to do it.Being an avid offroader myself, I would want nothing to do with offroad vehicles in the apocalypse. They are all high maintenance and with the abuse they go through, a lot of mechanical problems arise. I never towed anything while offroading, but I would be willing to bet it wouldn't work out to well. Do you find this valuable? |
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10. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 10:08 PM EDT
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11. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 4 2010, 10:14 PM EDT
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seeker407 |
12. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 5 2010, 3:11 AM EDT
"i have seen this done alot on the farms around where i live so that much i beleave is possible.This is a good point. I came up with this plan a few years ago: buy one of those plastic 500 gallon tanks that you see on the back of trucks. 1gallon of water/day/person... this could give almost 2 months of water to 10 people... the water needs to be treated. As far as dirt particles, you need a filter, but as far as organisms... well there are only 3 ways to kill a virus: Ozonation, UV rays, and Chlorine Since it would be a bit difficult to produce ozone, and bubble it through all my water, my next best bet is to use UV light. i did a research project on this a few years back. A relief agency developed a cheap method for producing clean water for small African villages which would be perfect for this scenario: It uses LED light bulbs, which are highly efficient, and extremely durable. They were able to get the LEDs to resonate at the Ultra Violet frequency, which, if you watched at a molecular level, alters the DNA of anything it touches. Which renders all viruses (even HIV) harmless after a couple hours of exposure (this is also the same reason why we get skin cancer if we stay exposed to the sun too much)... as far as the food: In my truck I carry 108 units of 1200 cal. emergency rations. its enough to last me about 3 months. if I am with my family, almost a year (yes we have a year supply of food) if by that time we couldn't have build a green house, planted some crops or hunted... well i guess i tried! haha as far as shelter: read under deployability, harvesting lumber is one of the things I think is important Do you find this valuable? |
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13. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 7 2010, 10:09 PM EDT
"I can post article after article about people blowing their fingers off shooting hand loaded ammo. If you don't know what you are doing, you better get good at it before you are forced to do it.and I could post you video after video of people making tons of ammo in minutes using an almost automated machine... they still have their hands and fingers, so that's evidence enough for me that as long as you are in a controlled environment, it is safe enough. Of course brand new ammo is preferred, but what would you recommend? I don't know about you, but melee weapons just seem to invite people to get close quarters, and unless you can really perform exactly like all those zombie video games out there... you're screwed! I probably wouldn't be off roading like up in the mountains or anything, just the grassy side banks that line our highways... if assuming as you said they would be clogged... Do you find this valuable? |
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14. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Apr 24 2010, 1:03 PM EDT
"EDIT: I've done some looking around... the M17S Bushmaster is a decent gun, but the MSAR 5.56 E4 is better IMO... so I'd go for that, and try to file the magazine well to accept Beta C clips (100 round) also, as for a sniper rifle... they seem impossible to find, but if I could get my hands on a dragunov SVU (bullpup design).. non automatic verison... would be awesome! 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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seeker407 |
15. UPDATE!
Feb 9 2011, 12:26 PM EST
So, i've talked about it a TON... and here it is:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT85kYf8-mI CHECK IT OUT! Do you find this valuable? |
rabidbeaver |
16. RE: UPDATE!
Feb 9 2011, 1:06 PM EST
If you are forced to bug in what will you do?What about digging in what if you car breaks down and you cant fix it? What if you take off in your plane and when you circle back your camp is overrun? Do you find this valuable? |
JunkCollector |
17. RE: UPDATE!
Feb 9 2011, 2:23 PM EST
This is the part of your plan I really don't like!!NOTE: I CURRENTLY have everything I have listed so far in all these posts, except the guns, HAM radio and certain personal gear stuff like cutting torch, armor, etc. Do you have the truck? Does it run off of natural gas now, or is it some one else's? Do you have the plan??? If you want to be taken seriously, please post a realistic plan. Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
18. RE: My zombie survival plan as of 4.APR.10
Feb 9 2011, 2:25 PM EST
| Post edited: Feb 9 2011, 3:22 PM EST
"and if you knew anything about basic welding you'd see how easy it would be to drill a hole in my truck bed, and drop a hollow 3 inch metal pipe, weld it to the frame, and weld on top of the pipe a gun holder with swivel... not too hard bub..Nevermind, Read wrong Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
19. RE: UPDATE!
Feb 9 2011, 3:22 PM EST
You didn't mention food or water (at least that I can see), what are your plans for that?
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