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jesuslvsu |
Survival Plan
Apr 10 2010, 11:28 AM EDT
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My basic plan will vary most likely have to change if ever used since this is only one of many Z-Day scenarios.1.Take crowbar,axe,chainsaw,rifle (ammo/type unknown), fishing pole, gasoline, as much food and water as possible, knives, fishing poles, duct tape, and possibly 1-3 survivors (neighbors) from my house and shed and load them into my S-10. 2.Take crowbar break into neighbors house. Raid his armory but leave some for his family. Everything from bows to civilian legal assualt rifles are in this home and I know. 3. Head torwards middle of nowhere (I know exactly where it is but don't want to say it online) and find an abandoned two story house. Have several in mind already in case one is still being used. 4.Begin making a 10'ft deep by 12'ft wide trench around entire perimeter. Use the dirt from this to build a large dirt mound 15'ft away from th trench. 5. Barricade the home ASAP. All windows,doors,and other weak spots must be covered as well s possible. Use furniture to reinforce all barricades. 6. Use axe to start chopping trees down within 300 yards of base. 7. Always have at least one survivor acting as guard 24/7. Change shifts every 6-10 hours. 8.Make sure that stupid local police are alerted so they can call in some competent SWAT and National Gaurd that actually will stand and fight. 9.Live in second story of building. Only go down to first floor if necessary. Basic Survival Plan Continued: 10. Depending on party size, send out teams for scavenging after at least one month (majority of The Panic should be over). NEVER send a person out alone under any circumstance unless you are completly alone. 11.Assuming some form of returning community will arise, trade with it and possibly join militia. 12.Attempt to get modified bus or semi (large amounts of both around) and load it with supplies in case required to Bug Out. 3 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
PedroAsani |
1. RE: Survival Plan
Apr 10 2010, 12:27 PM EDT
You fail. Your first action only occurs once the outbreak is recognised, and local. The preparation for something this devestating requires months, even years of planning.Step two will get you killed if the neighbour is home. People who have an armoury tend to deal with home invasions pretty decisively. And if he isn't home, how are you going to break into the armoury? Gun safes are pretty secure. 9 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jesuslvsu |
2. RE: Survival Plan
Apr 10 2010, 6:32 PM EDT
1.Of course I have to wait until the infection is confirmed and most likely local! 2.If my neighbor is home he would ask why I am breaking into his home before attacking or subduing me. He is like an uncle and trusts me. I would explain the problem but chances are he would already know about it since he is a corrections officer and keeps tabs on what is happening. 3. If he and his family are not home, many of his weapons are literally lying around. If necessary I would take only the easy ones. That would be mostly pistols and submachine guns but several shotguns,bows, and crossbows. 4.If he's home I'm sure he'll help me and probably will be working on his own survival plan. Might even take my dad's boat and hook it up to one of our trucks in case our base is near a lake or we have to make a retreat by sea. If the latter happens our time will be short since we will be forced to land somewhere or will likely be attacked by Raiders. 0 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
VagabondVance |
3. RE: Survival Plan
Apr 10 2010, 7:06 PM EDT
Ehem, you have quite a few holes in your plan;1.Learn your rifle, there are no excuses not to. 2. 10x12 ft trench and your going to move the dirt 15 ft away? you better have a backhoe, or get to work right now. 3. Why not use the chainsaw first when cutting down trees? 4. The shifts are do-able, but don't expect much work to get done with them. 5. This will have already happened before you get ready. 6. Your immediate area should be secure, and your people be able to freely move around the house at least, unless you like cabin fever. 7. You'll want a party of over six at the very least. Why you ask? Two for scavenge team, two for standby and rescue, and two to watch the base. 8. Don't count on anyone coming to save/help you, when SHTF, SHTF 9. You don't have a long term plan, ie. no crops growing 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jesuslvsu |
4. RE: Survival Plan
Apr 10 2010, 8:09 PM EDT
1.I live in southern USA. Firearms are common. "God Bless Rednecks" 2.A militia and possibly even a survivor community are likely after The Panic ends in my area. I put taking 1-3 survivors only because thats all I would expect to be around at time. 3.The reason why I haven't learned my rifle is because its not really my rifle. My dad has it stored in the shed since my mom doesn't want firearms in our home. So not much chance of learning it quickly. 4.Chainsaw far to noisy and its fuel should be conserved for a more important matter such as base being overrun. 5. House and property are very large so being cooped up will not be a problem. 6.The defense is a long term idea. It's not meant to be put together overnight it's meant to keep my party busy from going insane. And if you put a dirt mound right next to a trench then large amounts of dirt could easily fall in and create an exit for zombies. But you are right I probably should just make it say 5-10ft away from the trench at most. 7. I unforetunatly have no idea how to farm, hopefully someone in party will to save our butts from starvation. 8.What do you mean by not getting much work done? To long or to short? 9.Like I said in my original post this is only one scenario. In this scenario I gave myself 30 minutes preperation (assuming Shufflers) since I live near at the culdesac and on the second last street in a small community. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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VagabondVance |
5. RE: Survival Plan
Apr 11 2010, 12:54 AM EDT
1. True but that makes them all the easier for a raider to acquire. 2. Panics do not end they die along with many people even then with three people how do you expect to accomplish digging such a trench, with one person resting, two people working, and one person watching the rest of the perimeter? 3. Ask dad to go to the gun range, you live in the south your town should have one. 4. Then why even take the chainsaw if it is to be to noisy? 5. Your cooped up on the second floor that seems like a problem to me, I'd spend my day working hauling dirt or being on watch and I can't even enjoy myself. Let us see how long someone wants to stay like that. 6. Try three feet max, even then do you have a pulley to move all of that dirt out of the hole once you pass six feet and can't throw it over your head, then a wheelbarrow so you can move the dirt further away? 7. Again with the reliance on others for your survival, it isn't a good thing. If you have the room it's spring try making a little garden. 8. Meaning that the people will be exhausted in a few day if your only going to be using four, see #2 again for proof of why more people would be needed. 9. Have a general plan for one scenario, build upon that. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jesuslvsu |
6. RE: Survival Plan
May 8 2010, 7:11 PM EDT
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1.Chainsaw could be decent last defence weapon if base is overrun.2. Turns out several of the people I expect to be in area at time already have gardens and/or worked on farms. 3,Yes their are several pulleys in each possible base. 4.If group takes children (they have firearm experiance) and some others who might be in area, could build force of 6-30. If possible stay under 12 though. 5.I see a problem with the area itself. Its Florida we have mosquito problems most of the year. If zombie infection can be spread through mosquito the whole state is dead. Or at best poisined from excessive pesticide. We have temporary ways of getting rid of mosquitos but their is only so much wood not used for base and so much repellant. 6.The top two base choices have lots of entertainment that does not use electricity. 7.We have a lot of gun ranges not a problem neighbor said he'll bring me along and let me get used to his entire armory. 8.If food runs low before garden harvest, their are hundreds of cows around and plenty of homemade grills. And hunters who can clean and cook just about anything. I am learning from several right now. 9.The high school may be an option if it isn't used for a refugee camp. Even more isolated, several tons of food from just one day of supplies (almost 3000 students and 400 staff) use non lasting food as much as possible and save rest while possible. 10.With school idea, buses could be used as barricades, supply rooms, escape vehicles, and other uses. Also could use student vehicles. Use original trench idea as first line of defense and use vehicles as reinforcement. 11.Whole perimeter is fenced should slow down the first few zombies at least. Two buildings are two story, the other 4 are one story, along with 12 portables. 12.The two story buildings have two seperate stair cases on opposite sides of each building. The two buildings also are connected by a concrete path on second story. 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
ItsMrManCub |
7. RE: Survival Plan
May 8 2010, 7:21 PM EDT
*Intercepts SOS from jesuslvsu* "Help us we are trapped on top of the school. We have no food or water. Limited ammo. The school was full of people. Most already infected. We pulled back to the roof. Please send help. OH MY GOD they have breached our barricades. PLEASE HURRY!" *end of transmission**Vance looks over at me* "I told him so" You sure did buddy...pass me another black and mild :D 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
nate121 |
8. RE: Survival Plan
May 8 2010, 7:31 PM EDT
This isn't the rolplay thread you know that, right?
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ItsMrManCub |
9. RE: Survival Plan
May 8 2010, 7:34 PM EDT
*Facepalm*Nate...your killin me smalls Do you find this valuable? |
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jesuslvsu |
10. RE: Survival Plan
May 9 2010, 7:52 PM EDT
I wouldnt doubt it the school ended up having a few hundred people using it after Z-Day. You wouldn't have to go on the roof, their are plenty of rooms that are isolated enough to barricade yourself in safely. Some have extra exits to leave building without entering hallway. The idea of using school would be a backup plan unless it is secured before my party arrives. A decent security system is in place, so you already have eyes throughout school. Assuming people left about 100 vehicles behind at least 3 being buses (very possible) you could use those to enhance the simple defenses that are built in to the school. Of course take as many recources from them before you set them up. About 10 miles away their is plenty of construction equipment and materials lying on the side of the road. Take some of that and you have a concrete wall and the machines to put them in place. Put sniper teams on rooftops and you can see entire property (50 acres total) until treeline at edges and along only road leading in. A firehouse is directly next to the school which you could raid or set up as a security post since it is closer to main road. The community nearby has plenty of homes with firearms to use for protection and fallback bases. At least 30 homes would leave some firearm behind most likely for your use if you beat others to those homes. If you control the school you could control the town and if the community pulled together it would most likely become the capital. Only other reasonable capital would be the K-8 school directly outside of the community. Its about the same as high school but somewhat smaller if you look at property size (about 10 acres maximum). But you could search nearby homes much easier, though you would be in plain sight from the main road unless you had tree cover. High school would be ideal base still since you have diverse recources to work with even if people took large amounts. Area is fairly fertile and has cattle herds nearby to supply party.
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DeltaBravo1294 |
11. RE: Survival Plan
May 9 2010, 8:44 PM EDT
"I wouldnt doubt it the school ended up having a few hundred people using it after Z-Day. You wouldn't have to go on the roof, their are plenty of rooms that are isolated enough to barricade yourself in safely. "Are you high, or really that stupid? http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/School+Will+Kill+You So far you have listed the retarded ideas that will get you killed. Oh wowzers I'll use a chainsaw as a last stand weapon! Bzzzt Wrong! I'm going to barricade myself in a school, it's safe there. Bzzzt! Wrong again! 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jesuslvsu |
12. RE: Survival Plan
Aug 19 2010, 12:40 AM EDT
For the idea of using my school, I've already read that. My school is in Florida, we have storm shutters covering all windows. Only the entrance, exit, and individual door windows are not covered. I'm not some mall rat, I have some military training. Not a crappy one either, the US Army. I have multiple connections in my survival group that are already in the military. One is not yet military, but is trained as a SEAL already. Now yeah the chainsaw idea is stupid, but if I'm going to die I'm going to help you and kill as many Zack as possible. Anyone who is making a last stand is most likely going to die, with the rare exception of reinforcements arriving. Which in my case unless if its a scouting party wouldn't be able to happen.
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jjthomas3 |
13. RE: Survival Plan
Aug 20 2010, 8:15 AM EDT
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"For the idea of using my school, I've already read that. My school is in Florida, we have storm shutters covering all windows. Only the entrance, exit, and individual door windows are not covered. I'm not some mall rat, I have some military training. Not a crappy one either, the US Army. I have multiple connections in my survival group that are already in the military. One is not yet military, but is trained as a SEAL already. Now yeah the chainsaw idea is stupid, but if I'm going to die I'm going to help you and kill as many Zack as possible. Anyone who is making a last stand is most likely going to die, with the rare exception of reinforcements arriving. Which in my case unless if its a scouting party wouldn't be able to happen."What kind of military training do you have? A few posts ago you said something about your dad keeping a rifle in the shed. If you have military training shouldn't you have moved out by now? The chainsaw idea is bad even for a last stand, it would end with you not even killing 1 zombie because the chain would catch in the skull (if you could even lift it high enough to even think about attacking the zombie's head). You cannot assume anything. Assumptions WILL get you killed. Btw, I am a redneck and will be getting a rifle soon. But why will I let you take my gun? Why shouldn't I kill you and take your supplies? I mean, you are coming into my home and are trying to take the one thing that could ensure my survival. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jesuslvsu |
14. RE: Survival Plan
Aug 29 2010, 3:16 PM EDT
"What kind of military training do you have?I'm only 16. I was trained by several friends who are in my JROTC battalion and in the military, mostly the NG but a few full time soldiers and a Marine. I have to assume its not like I have zombies in my yard you have to imagine what it could turn out for at least a few scenarios. Alright after some testing yeah I can see chainsaw is a fail, so I'm taking that out. My dad got rid of the rifle, now I'd have to get a weapon from the neighborhood probably from my next door neighbor he's got an armory and I'm like a nephew to him. Do you find this valuable? |
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jesuslvsu |
15. RE: Survival Plan
Aug 29 2010, 3:19 PM EDT
"Are you high, or really that stupid?If you are in a last stand, your most likely going to die. Unless you have reinforcements or find a sudden way to distract enough zombies and make an escape, your going to die. Take out as many as you can before you die though so you can help out those who are surviving. Do you find this valuable? |
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jesuslvsu |
16. RE: Survival Plan
Aug 13 2011, 4:49 PM EDT
Well I am looking back at this and seeing the fails in this plan. I'll redo this plan soon, I've put a lot of thought into a simpler home defense that flood prepared areas (I'm Floridian) can easily use. Most homes in areas with regular flood problems have homes and other buildings raised above the ground. In my own town I've checked that it is between 18-30 inches for almost all homes.Our gated communites have walls surrounding most of the perimeter (not all though foolishly enough) so those homes are not raised up in most cases. Defense plans for those homes are different of course I'm planning on the average home which I live in and obviously the most common. 2 story buildings yes I know, different way to defend them. This is ONLY for the average home in Florida and most other flood prone areas that builders have thought about what they are dealing with in that climate. If your home is raised almost 3ft off the ground, you will usually need something to get inside easily (steps, porch, etc). Knock out the steps or porch and you've got a basic defense for slowing down zombie entry. Putting something simple as a couch or table in the door way and for the time being that door is protected. Most of these basic barricades would protect you from even the tallest zombie yet still allow you to shoot through the empty space leftover. Also, the windows on houses like mine are usually over 5ft high. My own window, the lowest window in my house, is at neck level for me and I'm 5'9. So heck with the travelling most of the homes around me are easily defendible. Those supplies I mentioned (minus the rifle and chainsaw, I realize the chainsaw is stupid and the rifle is gone) are in my home and shed which is maybe 20ft away from my house. Long term survival will of course be more difficult involving farming and better defenses from zombies and raiders. This is to last a few months, jumping from home to home over time. Do you find this valuable? |
