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182crazyking
182crazyking
Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 8:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 8:10 PM EDT
Alright, I've decided to make a survival plan. And it turns out to be kind of good!

It's by no means a perfect plan; it needs some revising and, most of all, some sugguestions from you guys!

Any sugguestions, ideas for BOLs (I have no idea where to bug out), and constructive critisizim will be warmly welcome.

Thanks in advance!
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Keyword tags: Personal Survival Plan
Survivor15
Survivor15
1. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 8:27 PM EDT
Pictures would be nice to break up the endless text. =)

Edit: My mistake, there are some toward the bottom.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
2. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 8:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 8:38 PM EDT
Seems pretty good to me so far.

One question in regards to scavenging: are you planning on doing so right away? That could be a problem.
For example, it may be better to buy the fertilizer, seeds, etc. beforehand.

Also, I didn't see any mention of barricading your house (you might've said it, and I just didn't see it.)
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
3. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 8:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 8:47 PM EDT
overall it didnt seem to bad.

and for future reference. your .22 pump has a tube magazine at the bottom. your grandpa's .22 semi-auto has a seven shot magazine not a clip. and last but not least when you have a handgun that has an exposed hammer that will not **** its called double action only or DAA. if the handgun does **** but you dont have to **** it it is single double, and your grandpa'a .22 revolver that is cowboy style should be single action only. which means you have to manually **** the hammer to fire it.

and like jim said. i wouldnt raid any houses too early on. if i came home a day or two after zedpoc started and you were looting my house i would most likely shoot first and ask questions later.

the filter didnt like the work c0ck
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
4. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 8:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 8:52 PM EDT
"overall it didnt seem to bad.

and for future reference. your .22 pump has a tube magazine at the bottom. your grandpa's .22 semi-auto has a seven shot magazine not a clip. and last but not least when you have a handgun that has an exposed hammer that will not **** its called double action only or DAA. if the handgun does **** but you dont have to **** it it is single double, and your grandpa'a .22 revolver that is cowboy style should be single action only. which means you have to manually **** the hammer to fire it.

and like jim said. i wouldnt raid any houses too early on. if i came home a day or two after zedpoc started and you were looting my house i would most likely shoot first and ask questions later.

the filter didnt like the work c0ck"
Good explanation Ghost.

However, in my experience, 99% of handguns that have a hammer can c*ck (double-single). DAO guns normally don't have a hammer.

Ah, yes. The "Magazine, not clip" statement. I annoy my friends so much by saying that. Sorry I missed it.
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BravoRomeu-Guy
BravoRomeu-Guy
5. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 8:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 9:00 PM EDT
Well,I guess you could get cigaretts for bargain.OR use it as some sort of rescue signal(smoke,smell).I believe that the weight/space/price/usefullnes ratio is pretty good.
About the armor,do you think that duct tape is breathable?I hope that we're talking about different things,because what I know as duct tape is basically a strap of black rubber with glue on one side.And that's not breathable.Besides that and what the others said,that sounds a pretty good plan.
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182crazyking
182crazyking
6. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 10:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 10:17 PM EDT
@ Sasquatch: I might have forgot to mention; during the Panic I would be boarding up my doors, windows, etc. And the newer police revolvers have hammers, but they don't c0ck. It's so the cop doesn't aim at someone, get nervous, and shoot them by mistake. A c0cked handgun has a hair trigger.

@ Darkness: Yeah, I forgot the whole clip/mag thing. I didn't know about the tube mag, though, thanks. And I will plan on laying low during the first two-three days. We could survive 0.5 MRE/day each before we get some new stuff.

And @ Bravo: I was thinking more along the lines of bracers with no adhesive. They could slip on and be snug, but still breathable through the sides and maybe punctures in the tape.

And thanks to everyone for thinking the plan is good! I'm sort of a r00kie at survival, so it's nice to hear that I have a plan.
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
7. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 15 2010, 10:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2010, 10:53 PM EDT
"Good explanation Ghost.

However, in my experience, 99% of handguns that have a hammer can c*ck (double-single). DAO guns normally don't have a hammer.

Ah, yes. The "Magazine, not clip" statement. I annoy my friends so much by saying that. Sorry I missed it."
i have had alot of revolvers that had hammers and were DAO. then again i trade guns like kids trade baseball cards so i may have just had more experience.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
8. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 7:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 7:11 AM EDT
"i have had alot of revolvers that had hammers and were DAO. then again i trade guns like kids trade baseball cards so i may have just had more experience.

I might have forgot to mention; during the Panic I would be boarding up my doors, windows, etc. And the newer police revolvers have hammers, but they don't c0ck. It's so the cop doesn't aim at someone, get nervous, and shoot them by mistake. A c0cked handgun has a hair trigger"
@182 and Ghost:
Really? I didn't know that. My mistake. Are than any examples that come to mind? I knew some had internal hammers, but...
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182crazyking
182crazyking
9. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 10:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 10:36 AM EDT
"@182 and Ghost:
Really? I didn't know that. My mistake. Are than any examples that come to mind? I knew some had internal hammers, but..."
If you didn't have relatives in the police force when they used DAO revolvers, then you aren't likely to know that they exist. Most civilian revolvers are D/S.
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BravoRomeu-Guy
BravoRomeu-Guy
10. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 2:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 2:28 PM EDT
It's cool,just some misunderstanding.I also believe that it could be handy to have some bicycles for the scrounging parties,to easen the job of carrying the load(with those side baskets/bags) and increase mobility while saving the fuel for other stuff,like the convoy.Although I don't know if it's aplicable to you.Keep it up! Do you find this valuable?    
182crazyking
182crazyking
11. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 5:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 5:37 PM EDT
"It's cool,just some misunderstanding.I also believe that it could be handy to have some bicycles for the scrounging parties,to easen the job of carrying the load(with those side baskets/bags) and increase mobility while saving the fuel for other stuff,like the convoy.Although I don't know if it's aplicable to you.Keep it up!"
I only have one bike that works properly. I had three, but one has no seat and the other doesn't work after a long time in the sun with no oil or use or etc.
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
12. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 5:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 5:46 PM EDT
"@182 and Ghost:
Really? I didn't know that. My mistake. Are than any examples that come to mind? I knew some had internal hammers, but..."
i cant think of model numbers or anything but i can remember a .38 i think it was a ruger, and last fall i had a RG .22LR that was DAO. some of the other ones i have had were small no-name manufacterers. i think it may be easier to make a DAO revoler then a single double but im not sure.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
13. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 9:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 9:05 PM EDT
That's cool. Thanks guys.

Like I said, I put "in my experience" in the post. Ha ha coverin' my un-knowledgable a$.

Anyway, the only major problem I see with the plan is saying that you'll loot things you need afterward. That can be easily fixed, however.
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182crazyking
182crazyking
14. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 10:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 10:29 PM EDT
"That's cool. Thanks guys.

Like I said, I put "in my experience" in the post. Ha ha coverin' my un-knowledgable a$.

Anyway, the only major problem I see with the plan is saying that you'll loot things you need afterward. That can be easily fixed, however."
Well, chances are after the Panic seeds will not be looted entirely yet. And besides I could look in the houses near mine.

And don't sweat the whole DAO thing. 88% of people don't know what a DAO is, let alone had much experience with it.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
15. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 16 2010, 10:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2010, 10:45 PM EDT
If the .22 pump isn't reliable then you should ditch it and stick with the 20 gauge, which you should keep loaded with either 00 or 000 buck. and the damage is not the same between the 12 and the 20, but given your size the 20 would be the better choice (i've got a 20 at home for defense).

with a .22lr long range is very relative, you won't be getting shots past 100 yards accurately. Having said that a pea-shooter is better than no-shooter.

Other than that all I can suggest is avoid pills that aren't over the counter if you haven't experienced them. This is coming from somebody who began experimenting with drugs when i was about two years older than you.
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182crazyking
182crazyking
16. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 17 2010, 12:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 17 2010, 12:41 PM EDT
"If the .22 pump isn't reliable then you should ditch it and stick with the 20 gauge, which you should keep loaded with either 00 or 000 buck. and the damage is not the same between the 12 and the 20, but given your size the 20 would be the better choice (i've got a 20 at home for defense).

with a .22lr long range is very relative, you won't be getting shots past 100 yards accurately. Having said that a pea-shooter is better than no-shooter.

Other than that all I can suggest is avoid pills that aren't over the counter if you haven't experienced them. This is coming from somebody who began experimenting with drugs when i was about two years older than you."
As I said, the .22 pump is more of a base sniper weapon because of this.
Also, the damage is pretty damn close to a 12 gauge. Most things have the same effect against zombies: Birdshot = close range head blower-offer. Buckshot - close range head exploder. Slugs = medium range head nuker.

Agreed.

And I have used Ibuprophen before. I have also used tylenol. The only thing that I sugguested that I haven't used was the Vicodin, and that ****'s so powerful it's probably looted anyway.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
17. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 17 2010, 3:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 17 2010, 3:41 PM EDT
For your purposes it's close enough.

Check out these websites though, the first one does quite a bit of penetration testing for various calibers and ammo types.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot22.htm
20 gauge shotgun tests

http://www.frfrogspad.com/shotgun.htm
Here is another one I found on 12 gauge penetration

http://shotshell.drundel.com/pelletcount.htm
This last one gives pellet counts for different shotshells
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
18. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 17 2010, 5:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 17 2010, 5:04 PM EDT
I agree with the "close-enough" statement. I've killed deer/turkeys/ducks with a 20 at the same ranges I've killed them with a 12.

Also, don't want to dwell on this, but I did know what DAO was. I just thought most DAO guns were hammerless.
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182crazyking
182crazyking
19. RE: Crazyking's Survival Plan
Apr 17 2010, 5:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 17 2010, 5:51 PM EDT
"Also, don't want to dwell on this, but I did know what DAO was. I just thought most DAO guns were hammerless."
Ah, OK then. *un-dwells on statement*

And @ Boyer, I know that there are some differences in penetration, but thanks for the links.
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