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What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 17 2010, 10:54 AM EDT
Ok, since I've seen three threads come and go, I'd like to approach this from a new angle. What this thread is looking for: - What you OWN, and not what you THINK you can get. - If you don't have it where you can grab it and go (i.e., your friends/grandpas/uncles/neighbors house) you ain't got it. - Fantasy crap is not allowed. - Feel free to post what you plan to obtain, but first tell us what (if anything) you do own/have access to. - Be honest. - Be prepared for criticism. - NO debating or complaining (i.e., AR v AK, melee vs guns, "my country is better than yours", "I think _____ sucks", etc.) - Understand that tangent discussions will happen, however everyone must keep in mind that this thread is about your loadout weapons. - Also, please feel free to discuss if you are planning on bugging in, or bugging out, if this choice determines your weapons. Links to previous threads for reference: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3225167/-?offset=1420&maxResults=20 http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3700957/-?maxResults=20 http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3850692/-?maxResults=20 ------ To get things rolling... Primary Rifle: Colt LE6920 Primary Sidearm: Glock 22 Backup Handgun: Springfield XDM in .40 S&W Melee: Kabar Kukri, Ontario M-9 Bayonet & 21in ASP baton Do you find this valuable?
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Frag-12 |
1. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 18 2010, 11:51 AM EDT
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Primary (sidearm) - Colt\Para-Ordnance Gold Cup .45 ACPResearching (Top Candidates) 1) Primary Rifle - PTR-91 SC/KFM4 or PTR-32 KFM4. 2) Primary CQB - Mossberg 930 Roadblocker 3) Backup Secondary - A well known and good quality compact .45 ACP 4) Last resort Melee - Kukri - Ideally learn Eskrima and practice with dual Kukris instead of Rattan fighting sticks. Until then, I will settle on (1) Kukri. Again, melee is only for last resort when fighting zombies due the infection rate of the zombie condition (whatever the cause will be) and possible zombie numbers. And when the budget becomes available for class 3 weapons, I will research this avenue as well. Do you find this valuable? |
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Unassigned |
2. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 18 2010, 9:12 PM EDT
"Primary (sidearm) - Colt\Para-Ordnance Gold Cup .45 ACPI really love the PTR 91, you just can't go wrong with it. What kind of kukri do you have bro? Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
3. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 18 2010, 10:37 PM EDT
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I currently only have Eskrima fighting sticks, Bo Staff, and a Cold Steel Tanto. All which I do not want to engage zombies with. You mentioned the Kabar Kukri you have is a good product, so I will look into that one. I will keep the Tanto as a good utility knife. I used to place it on my H-Harness when I was in the Marine Corps.Have you heard anything about the Saiga-12? Excluding a few states, you can purchase one without any issue. I am looking for something with a more round capacity, faster to load, and something not in the dream category. I read it has a few quirks and nothing that can not be fixed with practice and proper handling. Overall, it is supposedly pretty reliable. http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_12.htm Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 18 2010, 11:43 PM EDT
"I currently only have Eskrima fighting sticks, Bo Staff, and a Cold Steel Tanto. All which I do not want to engage zombies with. You mentioned the Kabar Kukri you have is a good product, so I will look into that one. I will keep the Tanto as a good utility knife. I used to place it on my H-Harness when I was in the Marine Corps.I love the Kabar kukri. It's not so much a machete than it is a versatile blade, unlike what many of the other kukris are marketed as. I've never really been interested in the Saiga 12, although I know there are many people who swear by it. But that's the extent of my knowledge about it. The quick mag changes is a nice option, but personally I'd rather go with a rifle than I would a shotgun. I'm not discounting the damage that a shotgun sheel can deliver, but I prefer the idea of having four 30 round magazines full of .223/5.56 than I do four mags of 12 shells each. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Akerris |
5. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 19 2010, 7:59 AM EDT
Mosin Nagant 91/30 with spike bayonet.Ghurka Kukri Custom made bastard sword Hickory cudgel. Various other swords if I need them. Do you find this valuable? |
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Unassigned |
6. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 19 2010, 8:29 AM EDT
"Mosin Nagant 91/30 with spike bayonet.No warhammer? *Facepalm* 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Akerris |
7. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 19 2010, 4:37 PM EDT
"No warhammer? *Facepalm*"I recommend warhammers for those who don't have training in other weapons who don't want to spend a lot of money. Its on my list to buy but free money is hard to come by. Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
8. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 8:29 AM EDT
I do not like warhammers unless it is the only thing you have. It is placing you too close to the infected and one blow may not kill it. While with a Kukri, you can chop off its head or its grabbing parts (fingers, hands, wrists, arms) so it can not grab you. Unless we have a real test subject to test how effective a warhammer will be, I will stick with the Kukri.
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Frag-12 |
9. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 8:51 AM EDT
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"I love the Kabar kukri. It's not so much a machete than it is a versatile blade, unlike what many of the other kukris are marketed as.I really only want the Saiga-12 as an insurance policy and I would probably give it to my wife as her primary after I teach her fields of fire for a shotgun. Besides, the Saiga-12's features is what I want in a shot gun. A decent amount of rounds in the magazine or drum (compared to most other shotguns), easier to reload than 1 shell at a time, very affordable, semi-automatic, and except for a few quirks that training will resolve - very reliable. And since it is affordable, there is a non-class 3 model, readily available, and not in development, the Saiga does not fall within the tacticool fantasy category . Besides the quirks, the only real con to the weapon I see at this time, is the recoil (which my wife will have to overcome or we will need to switch or find a muzzle break for the weapon). Do you find this valuable? |
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10. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 9:32 AM EDT
"I do not like warhammers unless it is the only thing you have. It is placing you too close to the infected and one blow may not kill it. While with a Kukri, you can chop off its head or its grabbing parts (fingers, hands, wrists, arms) so it can not grab you. Unless we have a real test subject to test how effective a warhammer will be, I will stick with the Kukri."Actually, the war hammer is HIGHLY effective in combat. Go to Spike TV and watch the first 15 minutes of the show Deadliest Warrior - William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. They test the war hammer for killing power and it's incredible. Akerris, I am actually interested in making a more historic and "rough" version of the war hammer myself. A friend of mine does metalurgy so I might ask him for some assistance on it. If I can figure out how to post a pic, I've got a screen shot of the war hammer used in Deadliest Warrior for reference. Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
11. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 9:44 AM EDT
"Actually, the war hammer is HIGHLY effective in combat. Go to Spike TV and watch the first 15 minutes of the show Deadliest Warrior - William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. They test the war hammer for killing power and it's incredible.Pretty terrible show, though. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Frag-12 |
12. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 9:58 AM EDT
"Actually, the war hammer is HIGHLY effective in combat. Go to Spike TV and watch the first 15 minutes of the show Deadliest Warrior - William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. They test the war hammer for killing power and it's incredible.Will do. How is the show overall? Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
13. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 10:14 AM EDT
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"Will do. How is the show overall?"It is a neat concept and generally pretty entertaining, but their methodology is very prejudiced. IRA versus Taliban, for example. The purposely picked the oddball weapons of the IRA, and *still* had them beat the Taliban forces. Lineup was: IRA -Armalite -Flamethrower* -Nail Bomb (IED) -Slingshot* Taliban -AK47 -RPG-7 -Antipersonnel mine -Bayonet* *WTF? (The IRA used similar weapons to the Taliban, really, though they preferred AR-15s and AR-18s, and they made use of handguns much more frequently. Interestingly enough, there are a Makarov and a Mac 11 handled in the episode but never discussed.) You could tell many of their experiments were very fake, as well. They used an agricultural flamethrower because they couldn't find an authentic one. The explosives test was done within the same line of sight (there is part where one guy notes that a part of the bomb fell very close), highly unlikely given liability. The RPG also did not have the correct launch or impact signature, indicating it was digitally done. EDIT: Typo. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 10:22 AM EDT
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"It is a neat concept and generally pretty entertaining, but their methodology is very prejudiced.Indeed some of the matches that they show don't go into the warrior themselves or thier training, just by the weapons that they had. Edit:Spelling and grammar @Unassigned: Like how they tested a nail bomb attachted to a scooter with a full tank of gas that was soo fair...not Do you find this valuable? |
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15. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 10:22 AM EDT
"It is a neat concept and generally pretty entertaining, but their methodology is very prejudiced.The show is by far extremely entertaining, however the test choices are pretty retarded. For instance, in the Green Berets v Spetsnaz they had the grenade test and put the Spetsnaz grenade in a washer for explosive potential, with targets outside, then placed the Green Berets grenade inside a room with targets. Why not test both the EXACT same way? I agree with John that it's pretty rediculous testing, but I watch it for the history and pretty much to see the extent of each individual weapon. Hell, remember our friend fixdeluxe? Without that show, I would have never known that New Zealand is where the Maori (Warrior) culture resides. Season Two starts tonight, and they are doing a marathon of the first season on Spike TV, if anyone is interested. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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possumblaster |
16. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 10:48 AM EDT
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Primary Firearm: Sig 556 or FS2000 (Sig for reliability, FN for compactness)Primary CQB: PS90 w/ 10.3" barrel Apparel: BDS Plate carrier with E-SAPI plates . PASGT Kevlar helmet . PVS-7B NVG's & weapon mounted laser for night fighting . 7 magazines on my person (.223) . another 7 magazines in my backpack (.223) . 4 - 5.7 magazines (50 rounds each) . Multicam BDU's If I am planning on outdoor combat I will be primarily using the Sig. I have shot it enough to know that it will go bang every time I pull the trigger. I would also have the PS90 with me in case I need to do some CQB work. If I am planning on urban combat then I will take the FS2000 along with the PS90. I don't fully trust the FS2000 yet, but that is only because I still have limited experience with it. If it proves as good as the Sig then it will be my go-to gun. Both rifles are zeroed the same and shoot the same at long range, so they can be interchanged. The PS90 will always be with me though. It will throw a lot of lead and is easy to maneuver inside a building. It is also filling the role as a pistol until I save up enough for a FN FiveseveN Plus I reload. I can use the same "bullet" and same primer in every single gun that I own. All I have to do is keep the empty casings and buy two different kinds of powder. 5.7 and .223 are my two calibers and I plan on keeping it that way. Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
17. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 10:55 AM EDT
"Primary Firearm: Sig 556 or FS2000 (Sig for reliability, FN for compactness)Possum, do you own this stuff now, or is this what you are planning to purchase, or what do you own now and are planning to purchase? Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 11:04 AM EDT
"Possum, do you own this stuff now, or is this what you are planning to purchase, or what do you own now and are planning to purchase?"They are his. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: What weapons would you bring with you when the SHTF??
Apr 20 2010, 11:25 AM EDT
1-colt commando .45 acp1-Steyr SSG 69 .308 with double set trigger 1-Remington 1100 tactical 20 gauge 1- Ruger Mark II in .22lr 1- AR7 with 30 rd ram-line magazine 2- cold steel javelins 1- cold steel assengai 1-cold steel boar spear 1-cold steel magnum tanto 1-cold steel trail master bowie 1-cold steel Vietnam Tomahawk 1-cold steel kukri (the real one, not their machete version) 1-Buck combat knife Do you find this valuable? |