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BlackRose1311
New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Apr 18 2010, 3:31 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 18 2010, 3:31 AM EDT
My best friend are ready for anything to go down in New York City. We have already made our plans, we are prepared with guns, food, shelter, and transportation if anything goes down. We are probably going to have a very experienced group of people prepared to fight. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
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ZA.Survivor
1. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Apr 19 2010, 6:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 19 2010, 6:39 AM EDT
I plan on heading to New York City from Ohio after things hit the fan. Want to meet up? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
TheMarc
TheMarc
2. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Aug 1 2010, 2:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 2:21 PM EDT
you are the closest to the rest of the island, if my plans fail (still working on them) or mass breakout here on the island (Long island) i might need to stop by. which area are you in signals ect? Do you find this valuable?    
TheLoadedGun
TheLoadedGun
3. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Aug 3 2010, 1:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2010, 1:45 PM EDT
NYC is gonna get hit hard, and maybe nuked, due to its population. High population = more infected. I'd get the hell out of there when TSHTF. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
CadetBarber
CadetBarber
4. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Aug 5 2010, 4:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 5 2010, 4:03 PM EDT
I doubt they will nuke NYC, just because of the unknown factor as to what radiation might to to a zed in that situation, more than likely they will napalm and firebomb alot like in 28 days later, save the money of having to rebuild a lot, and still crisp anything in the city (Except subway systems.
I am with TheLoadedGun on this one though, I wouldn't suggest staying in NYC, I wouldn'tggest staying in any city that you can't see from one end to the other.
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Encon
Encon
5. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Oct 13 2010, 11:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2010, 11:36 PM EDT
NYC's dense infrastructure may very well be a good thing here. Trains. Buses. Parking lots. Miles upon miles of quiet apartment buildings to hide in. There's a grocery store on every other block, and finally, Manhattan is an island. Zeds or no zeds, the place can be locked down. Close the bridges, and everyone
either is safe inside or safe outside.

Also- you have guns prepared? Damn though, a licence is hard to get here.
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Sam"Nevel"
Sam"Nevel"
6. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Nov 23 2010, 3:13 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 23 2010, 3:13 PM EST
"NYC's dense infrastructure may very well be a good thing here. Trains. Buses. Parking lots. Miles upon miles of quiet apartment buildings to hide in. There's a grocery store on every other block, and finally, Manhattan is an island. Zeds or no zeds, the place can be locked down. Close the bridges, and everyone
either is safe inside or safe outside.

Also- you have guns prepared? Damn though, a licence is hard to get here."
yea, getting a license is hard to get here, so stock up on info about where the gun shops, shooting ranges and police stations are. If they are smart enough, they might just be bunkered down quite nicely.

also, washington heights in manhattan is the thinnest and highest point. lots of places to get a good view of both sides of the river.
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DirgeNYS
DirgeNYS
7. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Dec 7 2010, 8:06 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 7 2010, 8:06 PM EST
New York City will become a 460+ square mile slaughterhouse in the event of a zombie outbreak.

Just getting INTO the city on a weekend night is near impossible. Now imagine that the millions of occupants of NYC begin succumbing to a highly contagious disease that makes the infected become murderous psychopaths. Within 3 days, the Brooklyn Bridge will be irreversibly locked with traffic, and all tunnels leading out of the city will be completely choked off by wreckage (which will most likely be on fire). NYC would be on complete lockdown. Nothing would enter or leave, except for the military entering the city via helicopter for evacuations and reclaiming the city block by block. That is, if they can. Survival would be based upon one's preparedness and access to an office or apartment building that can be secured and defended. But even preparing for a disaster in NYC is severely gimped by the fact that the draconian firearm laws make it so that legally owning firearms is virtually impossible, and even if by some miracle you do obtain a gun permit, the costs involved and the attention you receive from Big Brother makes it impractical and not worth it in the long run. Those ridiculous gun laws will be the death of millions of law abiding innocents, while gangs and criminals will rule the streets with their illegal firearms. Your only chance for self defense would be to scavenge firearms and ammunition from dead soldiers and police officers without being detected by zombies, raiders, or the scope of a demented/terrified/ignorant survivor and his/her rifle. Surviving in NYC will be like a mouse surviving in a snake's den. Death will be waiting around every corner, and in the city that never sleeps, that's a hell of a lot of corners.

At the very first sign of a possible outbreak, head upstate. It's less densely populated up here and at least you'll be able to legally arm yourself.

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VoodooHack
VoodooHack
8. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Dec 8 2010, 11:08 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2010, 11:08 AM EST
NYC is a logistical nightmare. When the SHTF, the bodegas and the shops will be overrun or looted rather quickly. During 9/11, the typical civilian response is denial followed by long periods of just milling about. The NYC mindset, especially in the inner city, just isn't prepared for survival scenarios.... AT ALL. When the towers fell, when people decided to do something, everyone's reaction was to get the heck off the island.

I agree with the person before me that said Manhattan would be a death trap. It's so densely populate with too many places for bad guys to lurk. Luckily, while I work on Manhattan, I live in the Bronx which is on the main land. I have more evacuation options.

On top of that, the strict gun laws would leave most people utterly defenseless against looters or others that will prey on the scared and unarmed. The only people armed would be law enforcement, military and the criminals. Throw in zombies and it's a situation more terrifying than what it already would be. I have to think about these things when putting together my bug out plan.
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zhunterd
zhunterd
9. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Dec 8 2010, 12:40 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2010, 12:47 PM EST
I agree with previous posters about NYC being a deathtrap in a zombie outbreak. Too many places for ZED to hide, criminals will have most of the guns, and the military/government will definitely look at wiping the city off the map if things get out of hand.(why would any military/government even want to leave a possible 8 million zombies walking around, with the potential to infect the rest of the world.)

Once New York City gets to a million zombies(if not fewer), the military will pull out. Then will start the dropping of thermobaric bombs/moabs to clear out zed walking around, and bunker busters to begin clearing out subterranean areas.
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Sam"Nevel"
Sam"Nevel"
10. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Dec 8 2010, 2:14 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 8 2010, 2:14 PM EST
definitely....anyone planning to survive in Manhattan has to realize we will be cut off from the world. All the bridges and tunnels will be destroyed. Survival will be based on preparedness, wits and hope the military doesn't just blow us away.

i wouldn't even touch the downtown area, train stations or hospitals.
if you manage to get a group, clear and bunker down into an apartment building with a gated front. border up all 1st floor windows and any access from the basement.
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Jamez820
Jamez820
11. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Dec 14 2010, 1:41 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2010, 1:41 PM EST
Sadly the Infection of NYC will press right into Long Island making your problem, my problem so I'm in a bad position too >.< Do you find this valuable?    
Sam"Nevel"
Sam"Nevel"
12. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Dec 14 2010, 2:10 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2010, 2:10 PM EST
we are assuming it will start in New York as many movies make it seem, but maybe Manhattan can be cut off from the world and be one of the last non-infection zones. Kind of like "Land of the Dead". Do you find this valuable?    
Islesman100
Islesman100
13. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Jan 13 2011, 10:02 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2011, 10:02 PM EST
Just wondering, but do you think that the infection could be kept from spreading to long island? Checking on google earth, there are 6 bridges in which the infected could cross (including Roosevelt and Randal Islands). In the movie I am Legend, the military (so we assume) took out the bridges in order to stop the infection from spreading. Could this be done, or more than likely, will this be done? Do you find this valuable?    
ben360
ben360
14. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Jul 17 2011, 6:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2011, 6:27 PM EDT
Well, there're tunnels as well as bridges that lead into NYC, so that's a lot of stuff to destroy, and I doubt the government has a kill-new-york zombie plan (or any zombie plan at all). If you're serious about surviving a widespread zombie invasion, I would recommend escape via boat. You could go south and bunker down in a coastal state. Do you find this valuable?    

Ironhex1
15. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Oct 2 2011, 9:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2011, 9:58 PM EDT
I say head upstate by water, by the time you pass the nucular power plant your better but I say head to neversink cause I'l be there with at least 75-125 20+ year olds, maybe less. We won't be armed well but the camp there is surronded by woods. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
16. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Oct 3 2011, 2:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2011, 2:06 AM EDT
"... the nucular power plant..."
Goodness, it's bad enough people can't figure out how to say it, but must you spell it that way as well?
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SilvesterBurchardt
17. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Nov 27 2011, 4:52 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2011, 4:52 PM EST
I live just down the street (literally) from the nuke plant... There is an Army base a stones throw north, not to mention West Point.

I severly doubt there will be any real effort to sequester NYC from the world in a timely manner. Most likely they will only "close" the bridges and tunnels, NOT destroy them - the primary reasoning will be financial and not logical - billions to rebuild versus the deniable "dead rising" hysteria that can be contained with road blocks and overtime - just thinking like the bean counters...

There are three major airports in the area and none of them are on Manhattan island - JFK is on the Long Island side of Brooklyn, LaGuardia is on the top edge of Queens and Newark is out in New Jersey. At least two of these are international airports, so any contagion coming in or going out via aircraft will most likely hit the outer fringes of the NYC metro area and work it's way in/out from there. Many of the workers at the airports live in the surrounding "poor" neighborhoods, but most of the passengers live in The City or are tourists. A good majority of the transit from airports to destinations is by cab/car service, but all of those people end up on the subway within 24 hours.

The nest likely infection hot spots are the navy yards in Bayonne (across the bay from NYC in NJ) and theBrooklyn Army Terminal where I THINK the Customs warehouses are.

NYC is the gateway to Long Island, if The City falls, the island falls... There are only two ways off the island that doesn't touch some portion of NYC Islip airport and the CT fairy.

Airport workers and college students living in The Bronx and Westchester are the transmitters out from an NYC outbreak, not to mention the commuters from LI, NJ, PA and upstate NY.

I would think the best bet for NYC residents is a summer house in the Catskills or central Connecticut.
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Islesman100
Islesman100
18. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Nov 27 2011, 6:21 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2011, 6:21 PM EST
"There are only two ways off the island that doesn't touch some portion of NYC Islip airport and the CT fairy."
I have to say you are incorrect:
Macauther Airport, Calverton Executive Airport, Brookhaven Airport, Francis S Gabreski Airport, Lufker Airport, Mattituck Airbase, Republic airport, Montauk aurport, and Mattituck Airport are all viable options for escaping Long Island.

There are also numerous ferries to the islands off the coast of long island.

I do agree with everything else, though.
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SilvesterBurchardt
19. RE: New York City Boroughs: Manhattan, and Queens
Nov 27 2011, 8:13 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2011, 8:13 PM EST
WOW!!!

I THINK I've heard of Brookhaven before, but the rest are completely new to me!!
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