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Carby3036 |
Zombie Weapons for the Young
Apr 30 2010, 1:07 AM EDT
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So I was wondering, was types of weapons (melee, ranged, etc.) would you give to the young? A reasonable age group would be 12-17. Seeing how I am 13 years old and I dont plan on dying, I would just like to know your input on this. What would be a good gun for me? I have gone hunting with a Remington 500 and there is one in my dad's closet. You are most likely going to encounter younger survivors, so it would be important to give them a weapon that they could use to help out.
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Jahadaz |
1. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
Apr 30 2010, 1:28 AM EDT
I'd start out with a small pistol. Maybe a .22 or a .380 Eventually moving into the larger calibers as the youngster proved they could handle themselves with the smaller weapons.I'm not giving any younger person a weapon out of my stock that they could "use to help out" because they probably couldn't. If I was taking in youngsters, I would prefer them to have the ability to protect and defend themselves and help out a LITTLE in battle while learning how to shoot correctly. I wouldn't say no if they joined a group with their own weapon and ammo. Especially if they could show me that they are slightly proficient with it. (for all I know, it's your late fathers and I'm not going to take that from you) but if it's from my stock, expect to get a smaller gun to start. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Carby3036 |
2. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
Apr 30 2010, 1:46 AM EDT
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Well thats really nice to know then. But I live in Kentucky and doubt I will meet you. But if I ever do meet you I got my Remington loaded. Not that Im going to shoot you.
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Oxy_the_Moron |
3. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 4:39 PM EDT
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As for firearms, I'm sixteen and would probably go for a Savage Model 110 if not for the fact that reloading bolt-actions is a pain in the ass. Fully autos are always a no-go, unless you have something along the lines of an M249.If medieval weaponry is an option, for a mêlée sidearm I'd want a zweihander: ample length, strong construction, and lightweight ... Otherwise, I'd expect a generic, boring machete to suffice. Do you find this valuable? |
AlexHigginbotham |
4. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 4:45 PM EDT
Unless they prove they can handle it safely and responsibly, I'm not giving a minor ****.
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pichu9000(expert) |
5. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 4:56 PM EDT
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Well, your going to need to know first at least how to safely handle a gun. And well, as far as it goes, if no one in your family owns a gun, dont bet on even getting one, because 1. Your parents probably wont let you. "Whats this for son?" "The Zombie Appocalypse dad, I need to be ready." "Bwahahahahaha, yeah right son, now really..." 2. Kids with guns just dont appeal if you dont live in rural places like Kentucky, Georgia, or places that hunt like Alaska, Wyoming. You need to be at least 21 and have a liscenes to even have one in most states. Every state has its own gun laws, you should check what yours are. But first go with small handgun calibers, and go up to rifles once you have proven you are ready. Do you find this valuable? |
kinelta |
6. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 5:12 PM EDT
"Unless they prove they can handle it safely and responsibly, I'm not giving a minor ****."Best qualify that by saying that showing responsibility means a certain amount of obedience to those who are your elders and are or have taken responsibility for you. It means doing what you are told, and not complaining about how you are being treated as a child. You canbe sure that you are a child if you're singing that song. You don't gain esteem in anyone's eyes if you think that you know better than people who have more experience than you do. It's a tough thing to swallow, but learning to master yourself under the tutelage of another is the best way to learn restraint and how to think before rushing headlong into trouble. That's how I think that proving oneself responsible begins. It's a long uphill path, and you don't gain the confidence of others until you have trudged it. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Survivor15 |
7. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 5:15 PM EDT
"But first go with small handgun calibers, and go up to rifles once you have proven you are ready."I disagree. Handguns take a lot more practice to aim and use effectively and safely. A small caliber rifle, like a .22lr is much more suited for practice. Do you find this valuable? |
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Oxy_the_Moron |
8. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 5:28 PM EDT
"I disagree. Handguns take a lot more practice to aim and use effectively and safely. A small caliber rifle, like a .22lr is much more suited for practice."A longer sight to use, more practical positions to fire from, and, for the most part, more accuracy and power? I'm all for it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
cyrano222 |
9. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 5:29 PM EDT
I agree with survivor15 a sidearm is difficult to master and use well. The long rifle is the place to start. In fact my son and I took my grandson shooting for his first time today. Showing he knows the basics of safety that we have taught him, we finally took him to the range and let him fire a Marlin bolt action .22(he is 8). When he gets to be about 10 we take him hunting with us, if he behaves when he turns 12 he gets a 12ga of his own, then a 10/22 I have stashed away for him.
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timberrattler |
10. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 7:02 PM EDT
Give that thirteen year old a sachel full of ammo and have him shadow someone who is pofecient with their weapons. Let him learn to disasemble and clean that persons arsenal and keep him in food and water. If you're that young you get sidekick status until you prove you can hang with the big boys.
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MajorDamage |
11. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 7:12 PM EDT
Reading the above posts brought forth a few choice words from history, see if they are familiar:page squire swordboy ammo bearer apprentice trainee cadet student Some of these are words specifically designed and used to describe social status and actual job. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Survivor15 |
12. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 2 2010, 7:35 PM EDT
I'm still a bit of an apprentice myself, since I need my dad with me when we go shooting, and to buy ammo.There is *Always* more to learn. Do you find this valuable? |
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Renegade50 |
13. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 4 2010, 11:38 PM EDT
I have been shooting for 45 years.( Im 50) I started with a 22 rimfire rifle. The best weapon for a beginner. Rifle is also easier to learn to shoot properly. Longer sight radius, three points of stabilization rather than 2 and easier sight aqusition ONCE you learn to shoot and handle a rifle, then move on to handguns. Usually once a person becomes very capable with a pistol thry are deadly with a rifle. I have shot competative trap and skeet for 35 years, action combat and cowboy for almost 30 years, Am a gunsmith for 29 years and have taught firearms handling safety and shooting for 20 years. Do you find this valuable? |
SasquatchJim |
14. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 5 2010, 9:28 PM EDT
Like many others are saying, unless the younger one has proved they can use a weapon safely, don't give them one.However, if they've proven themselves, here's a few things you could try: Like Timber said, have them carry the ammo for a more proficient marksman. If you can, give them a handgun just in case a zombie surprises them. Instruct them not to use it unless the Zed is right on top of them. Provided the child knows how to use the, a .22 rifle or a 20 ga. shotgun would be a good choice. They have light recoil (and an overall lighter gun,) but they still have killing power. I started shooting both when I was 7 or 8 years old, so I know most people can use them. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
15. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 5 2010, 9:59 PM EDT
"I'm still a bit of an apprentice myself, since I need my dad with me when we go shooting, and to buy ammo.I learn something new everyday and plan on doing just that the rest of my life. If you aren't learning you aren't living. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Oakspar77777 |
16. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 23 2010, 9:27 AM EDT
12-17 is not young. Yes, we don't use them in war in civilized countries, but that is ethics, not ability. WTSHTF, ethics get soft.In my part of the US, I don't know too many kids who are not shooting by 12 and offing deer by 15 (when it becomes legal). 16's can hunt, kill, work, shoot, and breed as well as anyone older - making up for experience with energy. Now, the real question is what to do with those who are under ten. 0-6 - nothing. Children are liabilities to be protected and nurtured. They are not just the future - but your future - unless you think you can rock the survival train in your 70s. Around 7 or so, give them a .22 rifle. 7-14s lack strength and the speed that comes after their growth spurt, but they have sharp eyes. Anyone in that age range will likely be learning responsibility not only through chores and light work, but through shifts taking watch. Two 13 year old kids with .22s on the roof swiftly become very deadly to anything that moves. Do you find this valuable? |
duterfel |
17. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 23 2010, 10:42 AM EDT
All children post Z-day should be enrolled in "school" which should a seemless combination of scholastic education and basic military training. Train them young so it's all they know. Get them playing light gun video games and target shooting light calibres very young...maybe 5 to 10 years old. Ability is only part of the equasion. Kids get scared pretty easy. What will a kid do in battle when the SHTF. I think child soldiers should be put on perimiter and guard duty at first. Learn the ropes and get comfortable before entering into actuall battle. I joined the army cadet programe when I was 12. i was firing some pretty big guns even at that young age. Kids can be effective soldiers if they are trained and desensitized properly. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Unassigned |
18. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 23 2010, 10:57 AM EDT
"All children post Z-day should be enrolled in "school" which should a seemless combination of scholastic education and basic military training.Agreed. Children can be "bred" to fight. Now, I don't want to get into a nature vs nurture debate, but several countries today have acts in place that allow them to recruit children even as young as 10 if need be. Look at the Spartan society... trained in fighting and raised to be soldiers. I bet an updated form of this type of education could be extremely useful in thye ZPAW. Do you find this valuable? |
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duterfel |
19. RE: Zombie Weapons for the Young
May 23 2010, 11:14 AM EDT
"Agreed. Children can be "bred" to fight. Now, I don't want to get into a nature vs nurture debate, but several countries today have acts in place that allow them to recruit children even as young as 10 if need be.And you would almost have to. After Z-Day...we will spend the rest of our lives at war. All people young and old will have to become warriors to survive for the long haul. Every remaining human will have to become hyper vigilant and completely aware or their surroundings...and everyone must be trained to pull the trigger without hesitation. Do you find this valuable? |
