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warhamer
warhamer
Repellant Plants
Apr 30 2010, 8:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2010, 8:19 PM EDT
I liked to point out a big flaw in your growing design you do not have any repellant plants unless your using pesticides (in my opinion don't use them unless they are really needed repllant plants can do almost as good as pesticides and doesn't make the food toxic at all as some pesticides do)but if your not you should have a a design with repellant plants Do you find this valuable?    
TheSecondShooter
TheSecondShooter
1. RE: Repellant Plants
Apr 30 2010, 9:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2010, 9:55 PM EDT
"I liked to point out a big flaw in your growing design you do not have any repellant plants unless your using pesticides (in my opinion don't use them unless they are really needed repllant plants can do almost as good as pesticides and doesn't make the food toxic at all as some pesticides do)but if your not you should have a a design with repellant plants"
you got my attention, care to give some more info or examples as to what plants repel what insects and what not.
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warhamer
warhamer
2. RE: Repellant Plants
May 1 2010, 8:18 PM EDT | Post edited: May 1 2010, 8:18 PM EDT
I'm afraid I don't know much about repellant plants all the repellant plants that I know are marigold but I know they are an effective insect killer a person I know made an organic garden and just used marigold as a repellant plant and the garden stayed fine so marigold is an extremly effective one I'll do some research on them some more I have a gardening book that I read when I need to know about somthing about plants. Do you find this valuable?    
NicholasTitan
NicholasTitan
3. RE: Repellant Plants
May 7 2012, 5:00 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2012, 5:00 PM EDT
y not just use a insects that eats other insects Do you find this valuable?    
epic_epicness
epic_epicness
4. RE: Repellant Plants
May 7 2012, 5:37 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2012, 5:37 PM EDT
"you got my attention, care to give some more info or examples as to what plants repel what insects and what not."
Tobacco, mint, eucalyptus, sage, yarrow, and about any other strong scented herb does well at repelling bugs. Tobacco is often used to make pesticides because of the toxicity of nicotine to just about everything.
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
5. RE: Repellant Plants
May 7 2012, 5:54 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2012, 5:54 PM EDT
Density of your plantings can make a large difference too. Gardens are commonly planted with plenty of space between rows. Perhaps this is done to maximize the sunlight getting to the plants? For a vegetable garden that is going to be harvested manually it is better to tighten things up so the plants are densly packed. It may seem contra-productive, but the yield is actually better. By vigorously growing the desired plants shade out the weeds. In their effort to gow toward the light the plants become more hardy and resistant to insects.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
6. RE: Repellant Plants
May 7 2012, 7:15 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2012, 7:15 PM EDT
i heard squash can be used to keep pests at bay because of its vines. Do you find this valuable?    
Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
7. RE: Repellant Plants
May 7 2012, 7:36 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2012, 7:36 PM EDT
Of course, with full time post-apoc care, many pests can be removed manually (catapillars, squash bugs, slugs, etc).

The real flaw I see is that you will never feed 12 hens (and roosters?) on a plot that small. A garden that size could support the rabbits well and provide vegies for the table - but not all that you have.

If you were actually restricted to an area this size (a midsized suburban back yard), I would suggest 4 hens (and 1 rooster) and rabbits with a stacked garden (maximizing space with verticle crops integration, like hanging tomatos over low growing turnip beds or tall bean fences shading lettus beds).

You should also give thought to vertical stacking your livestock pens into a smaller space and including a compost heap (most garden scraps will be consumed, but chicken poop is "hot" fertilizer and must rest - rabbit pellets are cool and can be directly applied to plants).

As always, your best bet is always to plan on less being more - start small and build up. Even the modest plot is going to take at least a half hour a day to maintain pre-apoc and an hour or two post-apoc.

Finally, rabbits are notoriously troublesome. I have had groups die out suddenly and I have had a very few explode in number wonderously. I once had a cluster (one buck and three does) give me only six that survived to adulthood in a year (over three kindlings). I also once had a cluster give me 32 in one kindling that made it to adulthood. Point being, you should never tie yourself to one breeding group - one tragedy and you could be screwed.
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nissassa
nissassa
8. RE: Repellant Plants
May 8 2012, 4:50 AM EDT | Post edited: May 8 2012, 4:50 AM EDT
very good to know im lovin all this brain candy Do you find this valuable?    
NotAlice
NotAlice
9. RE: Repellant Plants
May 26 2012, 8:04 PM EDT | Post edited: May 26 2012, 8:04 PM EDT
Gotta be careful with tobacco, it often carries tobacco mosaic virus which is pure hell on tomatoes. It MIGHT effect potatoes, too. My memory is unclear on that, and I'm feeling under the weather myself so I'm not going downstairs to look it up. So there! lol Do you find this valuable?    
shadowmancer
shadowmancer
10. RE: Repellant Plants
May 26 2012, 8:14 PM EDT | Post edited: May 26 2012, 8:14 PM EDT
mint will get rid of any insect that nagivates by pharamone trails such as ants, the smell overwhelms them. Cockroaches cannot stand catnip and it causes them to leave. Soap (pure non scented like ivory) and water spritzed on leaves will get rid of grubs lol not a plant but meh thought i'd put it out there.

LOL never plant coriander without catnip!!! lol or you will have millions of earwigs.
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BigLoki
BigLoki
11. RE: Repellant Plants
May 26 2012, 9:18 PM EDT | Post edited: May 26 2012, 9:18 PM EDT
There are a lot of nightshade varieties that repel larger scavengers. They look nice, but are toxic, and the critters dodge them. This is read knowledge, not first hand, but I am currently testing out the theory in my own small garden. If it works here, it will work nearly anywhere.

I live in a small area that has houses with yards, the rest is extremely urbanized, and so we are overrun with squirrels, rabbits, raccoon, possum, ect. I can look out the window on any given day, and spot at least half a dozen critters in my yard. We shall see.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
12. RE: Repellant Plants
May 26 2012, 10:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 26 2012, 10:26 PM EDT
Raise citronella plants to repel mosquitos. I think the oil from citronella plants has other uses as well. I'm just too lazy tonight to look it up. Do you find this valuable?    
renet76
renet76
13. RE: Repellant Plants
May 27 2012, 12:33 AM EDT | Post edited: May 27 2012, 12:33 AM EDT
Birds eye chillies make a wonderful anti everything from bugs to pest animals to unwanted people and its mostly non lethal

take the chillies crush the seeds and mix with water
then let it brew for a couple of days
After that strain the solution to remove the solids and add the liquid to a spray bottle and there you go instant bug , animal, people spray

it takes a couple of attempts to get it right as you i will often make it too weak to start with but once you work out how many seeds to use it works wonders on slugs snails in fact most insects "bug "off once you spray them with it

Down side though and there is a couple of them
1. Birds love the chillies so you need to plant then away from the rest of your garden

2. Watch out for spray drift when using it because if it gets in you eyes you are in for a world of pain
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NotAlice
NotAlice
14. RE: Repellant Plants
Jun 3 2012, 5:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 3 2012, 5:45 PM EDT
For those looking to learn about these things: google: companion planting.
"Carrots Love Tomatoes: Secrets of Companion Planting" and others are available at Amazon.
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CaptEndo
CaptEndo
15. RE: Repellant Plants
Feb 10 2013, 4:06 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2013, 4:06 PM EST
One set of companion crops is the old traditional Native American Three Sisters garden: plant a central core of corn. Once they have shoots at least 6 inches tall, plant pole beans arround them. The beans will climb the corn stalks. Then plant an outrer perimeter of squash type plants. The fine irritant hairs on the vines will protect the garden from many pests.That also is a reasonably balanced veggie diet: carbohydrates from the corn, protein from the beans, and vitamins from the squash. Replant in the same mound every year, the beans will keep fixing the nitorgen, all you need to do is mulch, and the next year turn it over to blend in last year's mulch. Yields will be better every year. Do you find this valuable?    
FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
16. RE: Repellant Plants
Feb 10 2013, 6:15 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2013, 6:15 PM EST
Damn! Thought someone had come up with plants to repel zombies, which would be cool. But the stuff here (gardening) isn't universal, different parts of the world and different pests, solutions etc. Some will work almost anywhere but when your yields and profit/survival become marginal your going to need to focus on what works best where you are and minimize any risk of failure - which will end up with you trying to get through a winter on runner beans for instance.
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
17. RE: Repellant Plants
Feb 10 2013, 9:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2013, 9:26 PM EST
I think if society collapsed, so would hygiene. refuse would pile up, and so would the fly and rat population.
I keep several basil plants, as well as basil seeds. There are a lot of cats in my neighborhood, but I don't know how well they'd cope with the sudden increase in the size of the rat population.
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CaptEndo
CaptEndo
18. RE: Repellant Plants
Feb 24 2013, 8:50 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2013, 8:50 PM EST
"I think if society collapsed, so would hygiene. refuse would pile up, and so would the fly and rat population.
I keep several basil plants, as well as basil seeds. There are a lot of cats in my neighborhood, but I don't know how well they'd cope with the sudden increase in the size of the rat population. "
Rats are protein too!
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Falter
Falter
19. RE: Repellant Plants
Feb 24 2013, 10:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2013, 10:22 PM EST
Garlic, onion, and hot peppers. Of the three the hot peppers might be one that is strongest as a spray vs just planting it (trying to remember how bug safe the plants are) but the garlic and onion do well just having them planted but if you are not eating any of the three then using them to make a repellent is a way for organic pesticide (or would it be repellent and not pesticide? not sure on these details).
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