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182crazyking
182crazyking
20. RE: Wal-Mart
May 23 2010, 2:44 AM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2010, 2:44 AM EDT
"And I should save you whatever I would be saving you. Of course they'd have a generator. Isles of fridges, if the power goes out, they'd be screwed. They'd need a generated just in case.

And my Wal-Mart has outside roof access, last I checked. Unless you're stalking me?"
Wal-Mart doesn't have fridges IIRC, and yes I am stalking you. Yes, I saw what you just did there.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
21. RE: Wal-Mart
May 23 2010, 5:50 AM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2010, 5:50 AM EDT
"And I should save you whatever I would be saving you. Of course they'd have a generator. Isles of fridges, if the power goes out, they'd be screwed. They'd need a generated just in case.

And my Wal-Mart has outside roof access, last I checked. Unless you're stalking me?"
Knuxz, SecondShooter WORKS there. He wrote the page on just what a WalMart layout is like.

When he says there are no generators, there are no generators.
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182crazyking
182crazyking
22. RE: Wal-Mart
May 23 2010, 11:57 AM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2010, 11:57 AM EDT
"Knuxz, SecondShooter WORKS there. He wrote the page on just what a WalMart layout is like.

When he says there are no generators, there are no generators."
Well, I think we have officially hijacked this necro-post. Now all we need is someone to ban random people and delete posts. This is a fun post!
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nate121
nate121
23. RE: Wal-Mart
May 23 2010, 1:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 23 2010, 1:26 PM EDT
well you could get some batterys from the auto section for power, i bet those will be left Do you find this valuable?    
182crazyking
182crazyking
24. RE: Wal-Mart
May 24 2010, 1:34 AM EDT | Post edited: May 24 2010, 1:34 AM EDT
"well you could get some batterys from the auto section for power, i bet those will be left"
Nope, batteries are one of the most likely panic buy items.

We should assemble a list of things people won't Panic buy.

Lumber, toothpaste, appliances, and Airsoft guns to start.
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TheSecondShooter
TheSecondShooter
25. RE: Wal-Mart
May 24 2010, 7:16 AM EDT | Post edited: May 24 2010, 7:17 AM EDT
"well you could get some batteries from the auto section for power, i bet those will be left"
the car batteries would go quickly, but there will be abandoned cars all over the place and they all will have a battery under the hood.

on the subject of generators in wal-mart. every district had access to a large semi trailer type generator that can be brought to the store in case power goes out. In the event of a wide spread power outage we send out refrigerated trailers to all the stores to store the parishable foods. As for the roof access i suppose it is possible in some older buildings to still have outside access, mostly in buildings and shopping centers not build by us. But in the new freestanding buildings they are all inside. the last thing wal-mart needs is some kids climbing up on the roof and peeping in the dressing rooms and possibly falling and hurting themselves.
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McCoyZombie
McCoyZombie
26. RE: Wal-Mart
Sep 16 2010, 3:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2010, 3:30 PM EDT
"Knuxz, SecondShooter WORKS there. He wrote the page on just what a WalMart layout is like.

When he says there are no generators, there are no generators."
Some of the Wal-marts do have generators, but that is the newer supercenters. His page is on an older style one. Plus he didn't discuss the smaller Gm store whitch have only a much smaller entry, only 4 fire escapes, a gardencenter entry that is behind a 12' tall chain link fence that's locked 60% of the time and steel roll down doors past that that are locked when not in use. Only 2 loading bays in the back-room that are locked at all times unless a trailer is docked and the rear door is locked and barred when not in use plus an alarm. And the roof can take a 200 lb man and 350 lb man jumping on it at it's bad spots. I'm a manager at an Iowa store. P.S. One of my guys and I were talking about hooking an generator up to the store if Z day hits as our receiving area is very defendable. Plus we snip a semi a fuel trailer as he knows how ta drive a rig and my uncle went over how do it when a rode with him.
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awdrenn
awdrenn
27. RE: Wal-Mart
Sep 16 2010, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2010, 5:02 PM EDT
"Some of the Wal-marts do have generators, but that is the newer supercenters. His page is on an older style one. Plus he didn't discuss the smaller Gm store whitch have only a much smaller entry, only 4 fire escapes, a gardencenter entry that is behind a 12' tall chain link fence that's locked 60% of the time and steel roll down doors past that that are locked when not in use. Only 2 loading bays in the back-room that are locked at all times unless a trailer is docked and the rear door is locked and barred when not in use plus an alarm. And the roof can take a 200 lb man and 350 lb man jumping on it at it's bad spots. I'm a manager at an Iowa store. P.S. One of my guys and I were talking about hooking an generator up to the store if Z day hits as our receiving area is very defendable. Plus we snip a semi a fuel trailer as he knows how ta drive a rig and my uncle went over how do it when a rode with him."
He's right. I used to work at a division 1 store (smallest kind). There are no generators. I know this because one day the town lost power and they had to use lamps to unload the truck. There is no fresh food and only a small grocery area.

In recent thinking, I may use an out of business furniture outlet as my BOL. Maybe. It's across from the Walmart, which also has a grocery store and Tractor Supply in the plaza. The furniture outlet has no windows, One front door and is on a hill behind a gas station. Also a water tower is nearby in the woods. I'll have to look at the building further to scan for exits and weakpoints.
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TheSecondShooter
TheSecondShooter
28. RE: Wal-Mart
Sep 20 2010, 1:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2010, 5:33 PM EDT
"Some of the Wal-marts do have generators, but that is the newer supercenters. His page is on an older style one. Plus he didn't discuss the smaller Gm store whitch have only a much smaller entry, only 4 fire escapes, a gardencenter entry that is behind a 12' tall chain link fence that's locked 60% of the time and steel roll down doors past that that are locked when not in use. Only 2 loading bays in the back-room that are locked at all times unless a trailer is docked and the rear door is locked and barred when not in use plus an alarm. And the roof can take a 200 lb man and 350 lb man jumping on it at it's bad spots. I'm a manager at an Iowa store. P.S. One of my guys and I were talking about hooking an generator up to the store if Z day hits as our receiving area is very defendable. Plus we snip a semi a fuel trailer as he knows how ta drive a rig and my uncle went over how do it when a rode with him."
I call BS on you being a manager. You don't even know the lingo. You are right I did not go over the division 1 ( small GM stores ) mostly because they represent only about 5% of the stores world wide. For that matter I also did not go over the neighborhood market stores, but then again they do not represent a large % of the total stores. I did not say that the roof could not support a 350lb man what i said was that it would not support a lot of people for an extended period of time, and that is fact. there are no fire escapes only fire doors. and it is true that the gates are locked 60% of the time in summer and in most cases 100% of the time in winter. I do not think a padlock will slow down a raider at all. As for alarms on the receiving doors, there are none there are two alarms in every store. One being the fire alarm and the other in on the TLE door and it is armed at 8pm and disarmed at 7am every day. another thing the new super centers DO NOT have generators, period, nada, none...

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TheSecondShooter
TheSecondShooter
29. RE: Wal-Mart
Sep 20 2010, 1:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2010, 1:24 PM EDT
As for you and one of your guys and your uncle or whatever taking a semi of fuel , well i will let the other guys handle that one.

Oh by the way sorry i was inactive so long guys i have had a busy season i will try to be on more.
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McCoyZombie
McCoyZombie
30. RE: Wal-Mart
Sep 22 2010, 11:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2010, 11:28 AM EDT
1) Screw the lingo, I'm not a Wal-mart slave. 2) It's Odd then that there is an alarm on mine that I have to disarm to every time I let in a vendor or to go out ta get into the outside storage trailers 3) A zone manager at the Grimes store told me of the generator 4) If you don't make modifications to a pre-zombie structure you plan to make base, then you, me or whoever you are, are going ta die. From zombies, raiders, or that ******* who sneaks in past ya safety. 5) Plus I agree that a Super-center would suck ass ta defend...to big..to many weak points..needs way to many people.. mostly located in a poor postion. Do you find this valuable?    
mbartelsm
mbartelsm
31. RE: Wal-Mart
Sep 22 2010, 1:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2010, 1:04 PM EDT
"My reason would have to be that I decided to see if there was fuel in their generators tank, and it was stored inside.

I would find a way to get to the roof access ladder, and break a top window. After, I would get a three ropes dropped, I, and two others would do our "deployment" into the Wal-Mart. We'd as silently as possible, get to the back, and if their was fuel, use walkie talkies to radio the outside crew, tell them the fire door to meet at, and GTFO ASAP. If there wasn't, I'd do the same, except without waiting to get all the fuel."
Soooo, you want to get in silently but you are going to break a roof window. hmmmm
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logic102
logic102
32. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 1:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 1:58 AM EDT
screw wall mart i've got one/three words for you APC Armored personnel carrier. a bullet profe mobile base that could hold up to 15 people and most can hold more than enough fuel to get you point to point easy. but only good while thiers fuel about though. Do you find this valuable?    
Maricely
Maricely
33. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 2:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 2:00 AM EDT
"screw wall mart i've got one/three words for you APC Armored personnel carrier. a bullet profe mobile base that could hold up to 15 people and most can hold more than enough fuel to get you point to point easy. but only good while thiers fuel about though."
That's great, and where do you plan to obtain an APC?
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
34. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 3:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 3:38 AM EDT
Did this thread seriously get necroed three times? Do you find this valuable?    
logic102
logic102
35. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 7:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 7:01 AM EDT
army's will come out in force to contian any outbrake so things like that will probably be out on the street. and an apc could Probably dirve one if they had two halfs of a brain cell to rub together. Do you find this valuable?    
Whybother08
Whybother08
36. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 8:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 8:09 AM EDT
"army's will come out in force to contian any outbrake so things like that will probably be out on the street. and an apc could Probably dirve one if they had two halfs of a brain cell to rub together. "
If that's your plan for a disaster of any kind, then you have already failed.

What would make shmucks like us survive, while the entirity of the military would be wiped off the face of the earth? That just doesn't add up.
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
37. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 8:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 8:20 AM EDT
"Probably dirve one if they had two halfs of a brain cell to rub together. "
Well that is too bad for you then.
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darthw
darthw
38. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 8:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 8:23 AM EDT
LOL, This is going to be a damned stupid question.

What about an abandoned Wal-Mart? (closed one by me to build a supercenter) sure the supplies would be gone, but it would facilitate a large number of survivors, has multiple bathrooms(if water is even still running), and all the food prep devices in McDonalds(sorry I doubt they have anything but a deepfryer & microwave), you have 2 entrances, the loading docs, and the garage.

Again, this Wal-Mart IS already abandoned.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
39. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 9:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2010, 9:06 AM EDT
"army's will come out in force to contian any outbrake so things like that will probably be out on the street. and an apc could Probably dirve one if they had two halfs of a brain cell to rub together. "
Oh dear...

And by the way *takes a drink*
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