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ItsMrManCub |
40. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 9:27 AM EDT
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*Double Post*
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ItsMrManCub |
41. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 9:50 AM EDT
@The SecondShooter- Your right about supercenters not having generators bro. After the hurricanes that hit the past few years walmart would always be one of the first stores to open their doors to the public. This was so that they could minimize loss since all the produce would spoil. They had no generators to keep it! Also people needed supplies like saws, hammers, etc for repairs on their homes and properties. The lines to get in were ridiculous an you had to walk with a walmart employee with a flashlight because it was dark. STOOPID HURRYCANES!!!
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FrenchLegion |
42. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 10:22 AM EDT
"OK. I'm going to change this post a little because since this I have been thinking about something.Ugh, going back to the thread I made: on Z-Day, everything isn't going to explode into chaos, and millions of zombies suddenly won't pop into existance. It's going to take a while before you see even a single zombie, unless the first outbreaks are near your location. So initially, you won't have to worry about the living dead. You'll have to worry about desperate, angry, horrified people, all probably armed with anything from a rifle to a piece of glass. 10 living, breathing, shooting, thinking, running humans are much more dangerous than fifty slouching, clumsy corpses. Do you find this valuable? |
chitoryu12 |
43. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 9 2010, 5:15 PM EDT
"Oh dear...Goddammit, I forgot about that. *takes a drink* It WOULD be in a Wal-Mart thread, too. Do you find this valuable? |
logic102 |
44. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 2:57 AM EDT
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sorry about Inconsistency in other posts. (and sounding a bit like a troll.) I just think that if their was an outbrake of somthing as deadly(no pun intended) as a killer zombifing desease that the militery wouldn't lie down and play dead. so i think it would be posible to get your hands on some Military hard ware like APCBut any way if I was stuck/defending in wall mart with a few people I would try and close off just one part of the store like the hardware section wich would have some of the tools you would need seeing as if it's only 2 days after the event more people are going to whant short term stuff like food, not stuff to build bases. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
anninhilator |
45. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 8:18 AM EDT
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Carnack |
46. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 10:08 AM EDT
"author did not replyAuthor don't need to. The Training Troops thread is still active and its creator is banned. Do you find this valuable? |
SasquatchJim |
47. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 10:14 AM EDT
"sorry about Inconsistency in other posts. (and sounding a bit like a troll.) I just think that if their was an outbrake of somthing as deadly(no pun intended) as a killer zombifing desease that the militery wouldn't lie down and play dead. so i think it would be posible to get your hands on some Military hard ware like APCNo, the main thing we had a problem with was you assuming that you could drive it if you found one. Assumptions like that could get you killed, In addition, if something killed off all the soldiers in the APC, how do you know it won't kill you? Do you find this valuable? |
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chitoryu12 |
48. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 10:21 AM EDT
"Trust me, that stuff WILL be gone. Yes, it will be gone 2 days after the event. Why? Because the food will be cleaned off the shelves within hours. There's not as much as everyone thinks. Wal-Mart will be empty within 2 or 3 days of anything anyone thinks they would need. Do you find this valuable? |
Oakspar77777 |
49. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 11:39 AM EDT
As soon as people reached the level of worry about an apocalypse Wal-Mart would be food-less. Note that every threat of flurries in the Southeast empties the grocery sections (and that includes the beer). A real threat would empty even the foods that people normally leave - like canned goods.Also, no one is going to sweep the ammo section. Unless you were in the store, got the call, and was willing to bank your life's credit on it really going down (which no adult with enough credit would), all you would do is buy another box or two of ammo - which you were probably planning on doing anyways. 80 people buying a box or two wipes out Wal-mart's ammo supply. The ammo will likely be gone long before the guns are - making the guns useless. Someone said no tools, but maybe lumber. This is, of course, backwards. Most people have basic tools like hammers. Lumber to board up windows, particularly plywood and pressboard are going to be gone. (Wal-mart doesn't carry lumber anyways). If it is still early enough in that pre-panic stages, you might be able to score the following: 1 - Seeds from a stand in their crappy H&G center along with some farming/wood gathering tools. 2 - Binders. Rope, screws, nails, chain. 3 - Bedding. Blankets and sheets for soon to be cold winters. 4 - Clothes, cloth, and sewing supplies. 5 - Rubbermade totes, trashcans, sweaterboxes, etc (good for water storage). 6 - Kitchen supplies - particularly large pots, cast iron, spare knives, and canning supplies. 7 - Bleach. Sterilizes everything (including wounds and drinking water). Do you find this valuable? |
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chitoryu12 |
50. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 10 2010, 5:32 PM EDT
Clothes and toys are probably the only things that would be left. When the full Panic hits and everyone is literally fighting over supplies, even electronics won't be safe from looters and thieves trying to take advantage of the pandemonium to slip out the door with some DVDs or computer software.
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logic102 |
51. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 11 2010, 7:02 AM EDT
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You could weld bay doors shut, But it would take time and only if they were made out of plated iron or something else weldable(aluminium, brass, copper and some other metals can only be welded by special equipment or will melt and run instead of welding) by useing car battery jumper leads and a welding rod if you have it or a pice of wire(welding stick is alot better but you may not be able to get one.) Just stick jumper leads to battery attach one end of lead to door and place wire/welding rod in other and you can weld. (Note place wire/welding rod in jaw of lead before you connect to the battery or you''ll shock/electrocute yourself) By the way in post 49 Oakspar77777 said you could use bleach Sterilize wounds and drinking water .don't. It is highly toxic and WILL kill you and or make you throw up every where, and or comatose you depending on how much you use. Do you find this valuable? |
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Oakspar77777 |
52. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 17 2010, 8:53 AM EDT
You don't pour straight bleach (which is itself normally a 10-12% solution of chlorine to water) on wounds or in a cup. You dilute it (usually down to about a 1% solution) for sanitation needs (and yes, it is wound safe, but will cause damage as it sterilizes - much like alcohol).As for drinking, remember that every municipal tap in the country uses chlorine to sterilize water. A small spoon full of bleach will keep a jug of water safe for years. A higher concentration can be used to "shock" contaminated water, which can them be left open to cure (chlorine evaporates out of water quickly - a matter of a day or two). Think about how much pool water you have swallowed - didn't kill you did it? Do you find this valuable? |
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logic102 |
53. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 21 2010, 5:53 AM EDT
well thats fine then, I can see your point now,m I didn't know that Bleach was in fact chlorine other wise i wouldn't have made a comment but it's good to Clarify so somone doesn't pore a hole lot of bleach in their water then drink it.Thx for the info Do you find this valuable? |
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chitoryu12 |
54. RE: Wal-Mart
Oct 21 2010, 6:59 PM EDT
"well thats fine then, I can see your point now,m I didn't know that Bleach was in fact chlorine other wise i wouldn't have made a comment but it's good to Clarify so somone doesn't pore a hole lot of bleach in their water then drink it.Smart way to obey your username: What does bleach do to water? What happens if I drink bleach? What happens if I drink water with bleach in it? Problem solved. Do you find this valuable? |
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Shadow997 |
55. RE: Wal-Mart
Jan 17 2011, 3:48 PM EST
"This is why I think we should have the Green Rule:And include all the people that plan on heading to the local hospital for security ... Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
56. RE: Wal-Mart
Jan 17 2011, 4:00 PM EST
"Nope, batteries are one of the most likely panic buy items.I disagree with lumber and possibly toothpaste Do you find this valuable? |
KeithB1982 |
57. RE: Wal-Mart
Jan 17 2011, 5:13 PM EST
"What does bleach do to water? What happens if I drink bleach? What happens if I drink water with bleach in it?"Bleach can be used to kill organisms in water. A pool chlorine test kit will aid in using the correct amount of bleach. We use to use about a quart or two in our dug well to make the water potable. You can make a disinfectant using bleach by mixing it with water in a 9 parts water to 1 part bleach ratio. Perhaps the most plentiful resource at a Walmart can be found outside the store in the parking lot. In any SHTF event people will drive to Walmart. Invariably a large number then have their vehicles blocked in by other vehicles, accidents that occur at the entrance/exits to the parking area, etc. If they live nearby they will start off on foot, leaving cars in the parking lot with gasoline in the tanks. Do you find this valuable? |
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logic102 |
58. RE: Wal-Mart
Jan 19 2011, 7:10 AM EST
Fair point but fuel, contrary to popular belief, will "go off" after 3-months to 5 or 6 years depending on how it's stored. Fuel in a half empty non-stainless metal container or fuel tank will "go off” faster than fuel in a airless stainless steel container(don't know where you would find one though) Because fuel exposed to air will absorb it and bond with it to create a solid or less flammable by-produced over timeThat’s why if you leave fuel in part full fuel can for a few week there will be suction when you open the container and also if the fuel is in a no-stainless metal container bits of metal will mix in with the fuel over time contaminating it. So if you had generator a good option would be to fuel them with LPG or LMG because the gas is much more stable and will last for decade as long as the container doesn't rupture. Do you find this valuable? |
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TheMaskedRiddler |
59. RE: Wal-Mart
Jan 30 2011, 4:42 AM EST
"Well the problem with that is that you can't. Cars/trucks have their steering wheels locked, so if you want to do that, you'd have to find one pointed directly at what you are aiming at. Do you find this valuable? |
