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Dummy991
Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 3:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 3:33 PM EDT
I think the Melee Weapons section is more like the Bladed Weapons section; the only time you ever mention a blunt weapon or anything close to them is a club. Blunt weapons need no sharpening or lubrication like knives or swords. Remember, blades aren't the only Melee weapons. Add something about Blunt-Force Trauma Weapons because they are fairly different. Do you find this valuable?    
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Carnack
Carnack
1. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 3:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 3:35 PM EDT
Bladed weapons however have other uses.

Aside from a hammer blunt weapons do not. Do you find this valuable?    
casquis
casquis
2. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 4:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 4:31 PM EDT
A good baseball has enough use for me, TO SPLIT ZOMBIE SKULLS!!!
jk, but seriously, it has a lot of potential for one-shot kills.

Blunt melee weapons are useful and pretty simple to come by; a chain, a baseball bat, golf club, the famous crowbar, the walls and floors themselves, large non-traditional objects (TV, drawer, bunk bed, etc), hell even a rock can work as a one-shot kill.
In my opinion, you should always have something similar near you. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
3. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 4:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 4:37 PM EDT
"A good baseball has enough use for me, TO SPLIT ZOMBIE SKULLS!!!
jk, but seriously, it has a lot of potential for one-shot kills.

Blunt melee weapons are useful and pretty simple to come by; a chain, a baseball bat, golf club, the famous crowbar, the walls and floors themselves, large non-traditional objects (TV, drawer, bunk bed, etc), hell even a rock can work as a one-shot kill.
In my opinion, you should always have something similar near you."
Chain: Lacks control
Baseball Bat: Common but lacks non-combat uses
Golf Club: Breaks easily
Crowbar: Useful but heavy

Now we can do one-shot kills all we like BUT you won't be fighting all the time.

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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
4. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 4:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 4:43 PM EDT
"Crowbar: Useful but heavy



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Most crowbars weight in around two pounds, almost as light as an aluminum bat.
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casquis
casquis
5. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 4:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 4:48 PM EDT
Blunt weapons would be used sort of like this:
-Guy looses everything to zombies.
-Guy takes first thing he can use as a weapon.
-Guy wonders for a long time and can't find any firearms.
-Guy keeps blunt weapon.

They would be kept for that use precisely, weapons. You wouldn't carry a baseball bat all over a post-apocaliptic world to try to hammer nails (not that I would try to hammer nails...) If anyone was to keep a baseball bat, they would keep it as a weapon, no matter how utterly useless it is in every other aspect. Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
6. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 6:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 6:46 PM EDT
I look at it this way. For me multi-tasking ability takes a back seat to effectiveness.

Yes a multi-tool may be more useful than my bowie knife, but the bowie knife is more effective as a knife. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
7. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 6:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 6:49 PM EDT
"I look at it this way. For me multi-tasking ability takes a back seat to effectiveness.

Yes a multi-tool may be more useful than my bowie knife, but the bowie knife is more effective as a knife."
True but a good knife/machete (good steel and construction) can be used for multiple things.

I'm talking design. A golf club is limited in what it can do. Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
8. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 6:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 6:54 PM EDT
Yes, but a baseball bat is effective, lightweight, and requires no maintenance. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
9. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 6:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 6:59 PM EDT
"Yes, but a baseball bat is effective, lightweight, and requires no maintenance."
But has no other uses aside from knocking over doors. Compare to a hammer that can do that plus aid in constructing shelter, dragging fencing aside, and aid in climbing.

All of that from standard household hammer with no mods. Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
10. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 7:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 7:06 PM EDT
"But has no other uses aside from knocking over doors. Compare to a hammer that can do that plus aid in constructing shelter, dragging fencing aside, and aid in climbing.

All of that from standard household hammer with no mods. "
as well as having half of the reach. Do you find this valuable?    
zombieniJa17
zombieniJa17
11. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 7:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 7:12 PM EDT
But also you might have to consider it might dent when you are out there then what?(like when breaking down door also depends on metal Edit) Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
12. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 7:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 7:11 PM EDT
"as well as having half of the reach."
Your primary act when confronted with a Z should consist of running.

Not standing and fighting.

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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
13. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 7:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 7:18 PM EDT
"Your primary act when confronted with a Z should consist of running.

Not standing and fighting.

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True, but when I have to fight, I want an effective weapon to do it with. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
14. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 9:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 9:06 PM EDT
"True, but when I have to fight, I want an effective weapon to do it with."
A hammer has a more focused hit zone and the claw can be used to work the target into a position for a stomp. Do you find this valuable?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
15. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 9:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 9:46 PM EDT
This thought occured to me:
They make hammers with a hatchet blade on the back. Would those be a good combination of both? Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
16. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 10:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 10:02 PM EDT
"This thought occured to me:
They make hammers with a hatchet blade on the back. Would those be a good combination of both?"
@SQ-Jim: I'd buy it. Why not?

At everyone else= I'm gonna rip off the TV show "Fight Science" here because they explained the use of many items you guys are implying to use as weapons very well.

* Baseball bats/Lead Pipe/Big-A** Stick: Yes, they will hurt. Yes, you can use them as a weapon. Baseball bats can do damage, but they also have a sweet-spot that you need to use exploit for their maximum potential. All three require you to make "A big Swing" to do damage. "Little-Swings" can do damage as well, but then what's the point? All the above don't have much control.

* Crowbars: Heavy as they may be, they are designed for Prying. One guy exclaimed that the crowbar had a tendency to slip, also it has the tendancy to make the weilder 'keep going' because it's not properly balanced as a weapon.

* Sticks: this can be used well, but it has to be well made. There's a fine balance between the Ridgedness & Flexibliity that takes place. To flexible it's a whip. To Ridged & snaps after a few strikes.

My .02, Hope This Helps.

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A_Don
A_Don
17. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 2 2010, 10:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 10:26 PM EDT
I don't know about anyone else here but I only intend to have to use my Kukri once I run out of bullets. I mean...even if a zed is in melee range with me, a bullet to the brain is probably going to be a lot more effective than most conventional melee weapons. Do you find this valuable?    
duterfel
duterfel
18. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 3 2010, 1:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 3 2010, 1:07 AM EDT
The strength and force required to "one hit kill" a zombie with a blunt weapon would be significant. That amount of force will tire the wielder of the weapon very quickly.

If you wind up with a bat then swing with all your might at a target and miss...or land a glancing blow...the weapon will throw you off balance. The weight of the weapon makes a follow-up attack impossible.

Aside from my tactical baton...I don't like blunt weapons. Bludgeons are just too primative. I perfer a weapon that requires a little bit of skill and finess. I like guns and blades...not bats and crowbars.

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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
19. RE: Blunt Melee Weapons
Jun 3 2010, 4:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 3 2010, 4:16 AM EDT
@ A_Don #17: Correct. I'm not a fan of using a bladed weapon other then for the fact that either I'm out of bullets, or I'm only taking out 1-8 Zeds.

@ Duterfel #18: I disagree. Yes, Blunt objects are quite primative, but also easy to master. Smash more often then not = dead/incapacitated. Bladed weapons = more fitness.

The idea of using a blunt or bladed weapon is along the same philosophy of firearms: use what you know.

Sure, I can use a sword to decapatate someone. But like I told a co-worker a few day's ago- I intend to have the sword for display purposes. If I have to cut someone with it I will.... hence why I'm getting a Cold Steel O-Katana. Why joke around? Can I win a sword fight with it? No. But if the ZedPoc or Home Invasion were to happen...I'm more then sure I'll win.

Why?

It's more often about attitude then you think.

If the ZedPoc happened tommorow, I'd be good. Cold Steel "O-Bokken" works fine for smashing ZedHead... and then of course I have all my firearms. Do you find this valuable?