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punisher6788
punisher6788
a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 19 2010, 5:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2010, 5:55 PM EDT
This is the same set up as the warning tripwire, but without the entire circuit stuff (wires, light bulb, battery, foil) and only one clothespin, and cork and some fishing wire. You put the clothespin and cork under some wight and run the fishing wire or other strong "invisible" wire through the cork, and attach the other end of the "invisible" wire to a grenade, so that when someone pulls the wire, the grenade will be forced to move along the wire tied around it's middle to the point of disturbance. remember to also run the wire trough the pin of the grenade so that when the wire is pulled, the grenade moves to the point of disturbance and detonates. works best with 3-4 second delaying grenades. Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
1. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 19 2010, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2010, 8:25 PM EDT
"This is the same set up as the warning tripwire, but without the entire circuit stuff (wires, light bulb, battery, foil) and only one clothespin, and cork and some fishing wire. You put the clothespin and cork under some wight and run the fishing wire or other strong "invisible" wire through the cork, and attach the other end of the "invisible" wire to a grenade, so that when someone pulls the wire, the grenade will be forced to move along the wire tied around it's middle to the point of disturbance. remember to also run the wire trough the pin of the grenade so that when the wire is pulled, the grenade moves to the point of disturbance and detonates. works best with 3-4 second delaying grenades."
or you could just have the grenade inside a can, remove the pin to arm, and attach it to a line so when the wire is tripped, the grenade is pulled out of the can.
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
2. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 19 2010, 10:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2010, 10:00 PM EDT
(assuming you obtained actual fragmentation grenades)

well, essentially, a warning trip is to let you know of a disturbance (that you know already)

but, the grenade trick.... essentially you're doing a claymore's/landmine's/other explosive devices' trick.

if you are thinking about something like that, look into tripwire systems. i dont know if you could make it move as planned, it might roll.. but the only ring you could run wire through is the pin.

and if you have the trip running on one side of a door, and you are on the other, you wouldnt want to wire a grenade to it, that would blast everything to hell.
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mudroll
mudroll
3. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 19 2010, 10:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2010, 10:02 PM EDT
"or you could just have the grenade inside a can, remove the pin to arm, and attach it to a line so when the wire is tripped, the grenade is pulled out of the can."
I don't think grenades work like that.
I'm pretty sure pulling the pin starts the hammer/striker in which you have a couple of seconds to chuck it or die. Unless you're talking about a different type of grenade. In which I have no idea.
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
4. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 19 2010, 10:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2010, 10:05 PM EDT
Some good ideas here.

http://www.5rar.asn.au/weapons/boobytraps.htm

The VC would also take fired bazooka tubes and fill then with pinless grenades. The tube was hung in a tree near a walking path, a small stick or pin was used to keep the nades from falling out, and a trip wire was tied to said pin/stick. A US squad would hit the trip wire, the grenades would fall out, the spoons would seperate, and a lot of people would get hurt.
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punisher6788
punisher6788
5. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 19 2010, 10:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2010, 10:47 PM EDT
Well, the concept of this idea, is that you have a location that you would be safe doing it from. I have done extensive research and study of many ideas like this and even more regarding weapons, so if you'd like, i could give you some better (but more complex and harder to obtain to items for) traps. Do you find this valuable?    

elelobo
6. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 27 2010, 3:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 27 2010, 3:11 AM EDT
The firing mechanism is triggered by a spring-loaded striker inside the grenade. Normally, the striker is held in place by the striker lever on top of the grenade, which is held in place by the safety pin. The soldier grips the grenade so the striker lever is pushed up against the body, pulls out the pin and then tosses the grenade. Do you find this valuable?    
Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
7. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 27 2010, 9:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 27 2010, 9:01 AM EDT
It is post Z-day, you actually have possession of a frag, and you are going to set it up as a landmine?

Really?

No, really?

A frag would be a real find post-apoc, as there are not tons of them sitting around, and many would be used in the initial weeks.

Your frag should be saved for (1) tossing in a nest of raiders, (2) tossing into a vehicle of raiders, (3) tossing under an armored vehicle (not even the ATeam puts metal plate on the floor), (4) buying time against an advancing horde of Zed.

Area affect, radius kill, that does not need line of sight - wasted as a booby trap.
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JezuzKrist
JezuzKrist
8. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 27 2010, 9:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 27 2010, 9:13 AM EDT
"It is post Z-day, you actually have possession of a frag, and you are going to set it up as a landmine?

Really?

No, really?

A frag would be a real find post-apoc, as there are not tons of them sitting around, and many would be used in the initial weeks.

Your frag should be saved for (1) tossing in a nest of raiders, (2) tossing into a vehicle of raiders, (3) tossing under an armored vehicle (not even the ATeam puts metal plate on the floor), (4) buying time against an advancing horde of Zed.

Area affect, radius kill, that does not need line of sight - wasted as a booby trap."
+1 for you.

The grenade would have much better uses then a trap.
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
9. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 27 2010, 9:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 27 2010, 9:37 AM EDT
Anyway that maybe this could be altered somehow. Maybe to something that the common man could do since 99% will NOT have grenades. Do you find this valuable?    
wbfos
wbfos
10. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 28 2010, 6:46 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2010, 6:46 AM EDT
"Anyway that maybe this could be altered somehow. Maybe to something that the common man could do since 99% will NOT have grenades."
Ok I cant Post the recipies on here BUT here is a link to a fun and helpfull reference book for everyone reading pleasure

http://onlinebooks.110mb.com/tm%2031-210/31-210-01-01.htm
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Filadog
Filadog
11. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 28 2010, 10:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2010, 10:17 AM EDT
Heres a photo of an antique set or Trap gun I have

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2300199/aview/MVC-131F.JPG

Takes a 20 ga. shotgun shell and fires when the lanyard is pulled. Originaly the legs had wooden extensions I believe so it could be more accurately aimed. The lanyard could be streatched across a trail or attached to a door or window and the device aimed at it.
These were also used for Wolves and Bears with bait attached to the lanyard, shooting them in the face when the bait was moved
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zachy_vengeance
zachy_vengeance
12. RE: a more violent take on the warning tripwire
Jun 28 2010, 12:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 28 2010, 12:11 PM EDT
Setting up a trap like this with my luck I'd end up killing a cat. Do you find this valuable?    

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