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masterelfury |
Consider a shield
Jun 29 2010, 7:21 PM EDT
Think outside the box, or possibly even behind one! I am wondering people thoughts on shields. A riot shield for example, is meant for holding back hostile person.Obviously a riot shield is not readily available, BUT a shield of other sorts can be purchased online, or even built with very little effort. It provides excellent protection, and a handgun can still be used. A shield can block a doorway or even a narrow hall. Thoughts on purchasing, creating, and using a shield. Tips on creating. Do you find this valuable?
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AlexHigginbotham |
1. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 29 2010, 8:59 PM EDT
Not interested.If you are having a physical standoff with zombies, there are obviously holes in your plan. Mobility and speed are going to keep you alive a LOT longer than a shield will, unless of course you are using lightweight and marathon. Then all you have to worry about is zombies that have semtex. 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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masterelfury |
2. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 29 2010, 11:37 PM EDT
"Not interested.Wow, you are full of yourself and your witty remarks aren't you? I never said I have a plan to have a physical standoff with zombies did I? You are one of the self proclaimed know it alls on the site who believe they have the perfect plan and will never ever have to improvise. Just a question, thanks for the sarcasm, twice in one day even. I hope the zombies feelings are hurt easily because all you have going for you is your "sharp" tongue. Thanks again! =) 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
Carnack |
3. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 29 2010, 11:42 PM EDT
"Wow, you are full of yourself and your witty remarks aren't you? I never said I have a plan to have a physical standoff with zombies did I? You are one of the self proclaimed know it alls on the site who believe they have the perfect plan and will never ever have to improvise. Just a question, thanks for the sarcasm, twice in one day even. I hope the zombies feelings are hurt easily because all you have going for you is your "sharp" tongue. Thanks again! =)"It's true. If your plan involves you getting into a standoff you need a new plan. If you have a choice between running and standing your ground unless you're in a fortified location you run. Only fools stand and fight mobs. Do you find this valuable? |
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masterelfury |
4. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 29 2010, 11:49 PM EDT
"It's true.No one reads... =( even when stating specifically standing and fighting is not my plan, this is the response I get. Do you find this valuable? |
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masterelfury |
5. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 29 2010, 11:53 PM EDT
And sorry, I often forget that the ZSG is as good as the word of god around here. Zombies will all be slow moving and will not even be able to catch a toddler that is on the move. And if you believe this is true, there will never be a z-day. If you can out walk a zombie, the chance of there being an epidemic is just about 0.
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chitoryu12 |
6. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:14 AM EDT
"And sorry, I often forget that the ZSG is as good as the word of god around here. Zombies will all be slow moving and will not even be able to catch a toddler that is on the move. And if you believe this is true, there will never be a z-day. If you can out walk a zombie, the chance of there being an epidemic is just about 0."Wow, excellent way to make an impression on us. Dick. For your information, the more intelligent members generally take anything Max Brooks says with a grain of salt at best. A good number of us have military background and have done a lot of research into the subject. So cool your jets before a mod shows up and says what I said, only a bit more firm. Do you find this valuable? |
duterfel |
7. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:30 AM EDT
Bringing a shield of any kind is like bringing a plate for the zombie to eat you off of. Shields are great...in large formations...but not so much in individual combat. I would rather stay light and maneuverable.Using any kind of weapon from behind a shield is problematic. It is very difficult to aim accurately...and we are going for accuracy if we are dealing with the dead. Shields are great for blocking off doorways...but you better be stronger than the three...four...five zomies on the other side of that shield. They will try to push past you...and you will not be able to stop them. Now you are trapped...pinned under your own shield. masterelfury...don't come up with an idea...then ask for opinions and thoughts...then not accept the advice being given. Don't be a D-bag. People who know better than you are trying to teach you something. Have the decency to listen. Do you find this valuable? |
Jahadaz |
8. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:31 AM EDT
Calm down. Most of us answer with a rather sarcastic tinge to our posts. Back to subject, I agree with those guys about putting yourself in a bad spot but I understand the question. Police riot shields are pretty light and it isn't impossible to imagine getting your hands on one but size is the major issue as to why I wouldn't bother. I can't think of an easy way that I would attach it to any of my BOBs. And I don't want to have to carry something full time. So I would vote no. Do you find this valuable? |
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WiseChoice |
9. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:36 AM EDT
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He did catch some smartass-ness from the very first reply. In his own defense. I think if a non-insulting reply was posted first, this entire thread would have been different. Edit: And yes, I agree. I also vote no. Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
10. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:43 AM EDT
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Master, I'm not exactly sure what upsets you about me. This isn't the first time someone has brought up the use of riot shields, and most of it didn't spur from Call of Duty, it came from 28 Days Later.You said you didn't plan on a standoff, so why would you suggest using a shield, especially in tight quarters or a hallway? Why would you put yourself in a situation where you would be rushed? I know it isn't always avoidable, but the act of carrying something as clumsy and heavy as a shield makes it seem like you are going out of your way to put yourself in a harmful situation. Claiming that we hold the ZSG in high regard around here won't get you all that far. A shield would more likely be effective against slow zombies than ragers because a rager would potentially have the ability to side step you, jump over you, or simply over power you. I don't have a perfect plan, but if you would have gone to the trouble of reading it, you would see I left a lot of room for improvisation and "what ifs". To further dispute my "worship" of the ZSG, quite frankly I don't believe in zombies. I accept the possibility of it, but it is more of an entertaining excuse to prepare for other disasters, namely a revolution or civil war. If you want to set up a good discussion on something that will most likely draw some flak to you, present a valid defense. Saying a shield might come in handy or that they are readily available (which I'm pretty sure they aren't) isn't enough. Set up a valid discussion, and we will retort with a valid response. Also, I'm not an expert, self proclaimed or otherwise. There is no such thing as a zombie expert, only good and bad opinions. Some have more of one than the other. @Chitoryu12 - Thanks for defending me, but next time could you hold off on the name calling. Thanks boss. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
jdi35 |
11. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:43 AM EDT
"And sorry, I often forget that the ZSG is as good as the word of god around here. Zombies will all be slow moving and will not even be able to catch a toddler that is on the move. And if you believe this is true, there will never be a z-day. If you can out walk a zombie, the chance of there being an epidemic is just about 0."about all the ZSG is good for around here is fire starting. and we all pretty much know that a zedpocolypse is incredibly unlikely. most of the stuff we got on the site deals with crap that can actually happen, like a nuclear plant going bust or an earthquake in your backyard. anyway, the OP. it really depends on the type of shield and the material its built out of. certain designs can give you more protection, but they're larger and heavier, restricting movement. materials important too. you wouldn't wanna make it out of light wood if you know your going up against a lance or nowadays, rifles. Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
12. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 1:01 AM EDT
If I found a police or prison grade riot shield lying around, it would get tossed in the scrap pile. I would use it to fortify doors or windows, but even then I would take wood first.To use a self tapping screw in lexan, as well as many other high strength plastics, a pilot hole has to be drilled and by doing so you are creating a weak point. The likelyhood of cracking or stripping is a LOT higher than with wood, and most likely, a nice 1/2in sheet of ply wood will do the trick. Do you find this valuable? |
ww3sabiture |
13. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 1:17 AM EDT
after reading this i did a little test and its pointless it took me 10sec to be over run by 4 of my friends. i wouldnt want ot be luging around a 1/2in hunk of ply around all day eather. i tryed it with one person and i tryed to load my flare gun with one hand and i couldnt do it will all the moveing around. get some friends and try it if you think im messing with ya
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SurvivalSniper |
14. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 1:18 AM EDT
I say no to the shield, they are pretty much only useful when your in a large formation of other people with shields, and this still wouldn't be very useful because if you try to drop it and run, your deadWhere are you going to get one anyway?, anything made in your home shop would probably be very heavy. Do you find this valuable? |
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WiseChoice |
15. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 1:23 AM EDT
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Again, I would say no to a shield.However, a Buckler. Mayyyybe there is something there. Much smaller, can be used as an effective melee weapon, protective, doesn't weigh very much. But again, MAYYYYBE. I say maybe because it might just be a better to idea to have leather gloves and brass knux.???? Do you find this valuable? |
brandon_a_boyer |
16. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 1:30 AM EDT
I look at it as a matter of surface area, If i have a shield that i'm using to defend against an opponent who is fighting mob style, they i'm simply increasing the surface area they have to push against.Yeah you could push back one, maybe two zombies, but three or four? Do you find this valuable? |
herrteufelhund |
17. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 6:20 AM EDT
Agian as someone who has used them, I have broken a riot shield in half after checking a guy before he was brought into custody, and ballstic shields are too heavy to use for anything other then brief protection when moving in a small enclosed area such stairways or down hallways. The offer no real protection as both can be deafeated with rifle fire, limits your field of view, and are very hard to shoot from behind. Drop the shield replace weight with water and ammo.
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chitoryu12 |
18. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 12:57 PM EDT
Moreover, why would you take a shield if you DON'T plan on using it? It's big, bulky, and heavy (depending on the model). Not to mention difficulties in transport; it won't fit in your bag and you'd have some trouble slinging it on your back if you've got a bag to carry, so you have to keep it in your hand and restrict yourself to a handgun or melee weapon.
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nate121 |
19. RE: Consider a shield
Jun 30 2010, 1:33 PM EDT
I think this was a fire and forget troll
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