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WhatZ702
WhatZ702
How will society be kept intact?
Jul 6 2010, 12:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2010, 12:50 PM EDT
As we all know when the Zombie apocalypse happens the world governments will fail and cease to exist or lose much of its power. So new alliances would arise and new nations would be born as well. My question is, what form of government, morals, or beliefs would prevail or become most efficient? Do you find this valuable?    

DerSchatten
1. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 6 2010, 12:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2010, 12:52 PM EDT
"As we all know when the Zombie apocalypse happens the world governments will fail and cease to exist or lose much of its power. So new alliances would arise and new nations would be born as well. My question is, what form of government, morals, or beliefs would prevail or become most efficient? "
Dictatorship. Communism. And afew few others...
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Madurjafro
Madurjafro
2. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 6 2010, 1:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2010, 1:11 PM EDT
mostly right wingers, as there is little to stop them doing what they want.
christianity will skyrocket as everybody will be praying to god to let them live another day. the most efficient would be communism as everybody is equal so things would work out. aslong as it doesn't turn out to be like Russia, or North Korea
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 6 2010, 3:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2010, 3:14 PM EDT
If you look at the values held by those on this site, it is actually a fair mix of people on the political compass. (For those unfamiliar with this, google is your friend.)

This gives me an idea.
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Carnack
Carnack
4. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 6 2010, 3:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2010, 3:52 PM EDT
"mostly right wingers, as there is little to stop them doing what they want.
christianity will skyrocket as everybody will be praying to god to let them live another day. the most efficient would be communism as everybody is equal so things would work out. aslong as it doesn't turn out to be like Russia, or North Korea"
Communism has never worked out at any of the times it was employed.
We'd have enough to worry about without having a crappy system to work from.
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kinelta
kinelta
5. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 6 2010, 5:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2010, 5:34 PM EDT
"If you look at the values held by those on this site, it is actually a fair mix of people on the political compass. (For those unfamiliar with this, google is your friend.)

This gives me an idea."
Gives me an idea too. I need to read that article called, "Is Google Making Us Stupid?"

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Valdsar2217
Valdsar2217
6. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 9 2010, 9:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 9 2010, 9:08 AM EDT
"Communism has never worked out at any of the times it was employed.
We'd have enough to worry about without having a crappy system to work from."
It worked in russia and they were doing well til they became like the west and no longer was everyone as equal.

In fact cuba, china and vietnam are communist states and are thriving, cuba with very little resources yet are the ones who provide the best medical care in the world.
The system makes everyone equal so everything is shared fairly among the people.
Research it before you decide it is a "crappy system".

It works for some and that doesn't mean it can't work in the long run.
Some groups will find it better as a system than others.
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WhatZ702
WhatZ702
7. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 17 2010, 12:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2010, 12:58 PM EDT
For those who would like to see where they stand in a political view use these two polls/quizzes: Moral Matrix and Political Compass. I am socialist basically. More like a European socialist rather than a former Russian Socialist. Also lets keep to the thread otherwise it will be locked. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Domdabomb
8. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 19 2010, 11:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 19 2010, 11:01 AM EDT
How will society be kept intact?
It wont. Sorry but thats the harsh fact
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
9. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 19 2010, 12:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 19 2010, 12:02 PM EDT
"How will society be kept intact?
It wont. Sorry but thats the harsh fact"
If you read the post, the OP is asking what ideologies would be prevelant amongst the survivors.
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MajorDamage
10. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 19 2010, 5:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 19 2010, 8:53 PM EDT
"For those who would like to see where they stand in a political view use these two polls/quizzes: Moral Matrix and Political Compass. I am socialist basically. More like a European socialist rather than a former Russian Socialist. Also lets keep to the thread otherwise it will be locked."
So, you mean to let the obvious uneducated, factually unsupported propaganda spewed by Valdsar to stand unchallenged??

Is that because you are 'more like a European Socialist' and therefore still a believer?
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Valdsar2217
Valdsar2217
11. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 20 2010, 10:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2010, 10:52 AM EDT
" uneducated, factually unsupported propaganda"
What is so uneducated about the truth?
It isn't propaganda it's the TRUTH, believe it or not.

It is a system like many others out there, freedom is a cage we can't see.
There will be oppression from a few over a larger group, this will always be a FACT, we are all told what to do and what we can't do.

Some don't like, some don't care the only change that is achieved is we have a different group of people bossing the populous.

At least in communism the enslaved are all in the same system, so they aren't going to fight each other over what they don't have, but want.

We can argue what is the best system to use, but in the end any/ all the systems will be used.
The conclusion is that some will enforce and others will either follow or be killed or forced to leave the group.

The aspect of freedom is you are truly free and do what you want with no net to save you when you need help or you live within restrictions on what can be and thats it.

We all can choose most will go with a ruled system, that is what is the difference from a raider and a survivor.

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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
12. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 20 2010, 11:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2010, 11:13 AM EDT
Where you're wrong Valdsar, is that Chinas economy is increasingly capitalist. Vietnam has also made the transistion to a market based economy. And the Soviet Union fell... So Communism works? Not really.

And Cuba is a Dictatorship, not a true Communist state.
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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
13. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 20 2010, 11:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2010, 11:15 AM EDT
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MattLew
14. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 21 2010, 9:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2010, 9:54 PM EDT
the greatest problem with Communism is no nation has ever been known to actually practice it. soviet "communism" as we know it was actually socialism taken to an extreme. the only place communism was actually known to have been practiced in the 20th century is a handful of hippy comunes, and even they fell to human nature.

now back to the focus of the question asked.

how would society be maintained? at the point of the sword.

if you do your research, the players in the super power game each have a variation of a policy called continuity of government. and if you really go and read the documents attached to these policies, you will fnd they boil down to protecting political leadership at the cost of the citizenry while enforcing return to status quo at gun point after the disaster has settled.
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Carnack
Carnack
15. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 21 2010, 10:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2010, 10:21 PM EDT
"the greatest problem with Communism is no nation has ever been known to actually practice it. soviet "communism" as we know it was actually socialism taken to an extreme. the only place communism was actually known to have been practiced in the 20th century is a handful of hippy comunes, and even they fell to human nature.

now back to the focus of the question asked.

how would society be maintained? at the point of the sword.

if you do your research, the players in the super power game each have a variation of a policy called continuity of government. and if you really go and read the documents attached to these policies, you will fnd they boil down to protecting political leadership at the cost of the citizenry while enforcing return to status quo at gun point after the disaster has settled."
Take a look at history. Few societies have ever gone from independant to dicatorship quietly.

So I say let them have their documents. It means nothing when you are literally fighting your own country.
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Godbuster
Godbuster
16. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 21 2010, 10:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2010, 10:49 PM EDT
"Take a look at history. Few societies have ever gone from independant to dicatorship quietly."
You're right about that. The thing is, you're going to want to try to keep as many people as happy as possible. Its easier to be overthrown if you don't have very many supporters. Fairness is the way to go but when Bill is doing twice as much work as Frank, and Frank has twice as many potatoes as Bill, Bill is gonna get pissed.
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Carnack
Carnack
17. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 21 2010, 10:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2010, 10:57 PM EDT
"You're right about that. The thing is, you're going to want to try to keep as many people as happy as possible. Its easier to be overthrown if you don't have very many supporters. Fairness is the way to go but when Bill is doing twice as much work as Frank, and Frank has twice as many potatoes as Bill, Bill is gonna get pissed. "
Then Jacob walks up and tells them both to leave the petty bullsh.it at home and start causing chaos.

~~No clue what's the deal with Bill and Frank~~
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dragonvilla4
dragonvilla4
18. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 21 2010, 11:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2010, 11:28 PM EDT
people will bow down to probably anybody who can provide them safety and security from the chaos that will follow. They will even give up there freedom for safety and security such is human nature. People tend to fall under the influence of charismatic individuals especially if they got a big ass army backing them up. Do you find this valuable?    

lastsoilder
19. RE: How will society be kept intact?
Jul 21 2010, 11:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2010, 11:50 PM EDT
man you don,t need society to live if you work better in a smaal group and all you went to do is kill then do it besides it is all going to hell whene zombies start comin Do you find this valuable?    
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