"So I decided to show this website to my father. The particular part of the site I showed was Pedro's Survival Plan. My father took the time to skim through and got hooked. He then reread the whole thing. Now he's insisting that PedroAsani is the god of large-scale, long term survivalism and is going to model his plan after this one except for having his base in our backyard. He ran off to the army/navy surplus store and is using a printed off version of the plan to make his purchases but isn't taking the quality and cost of the gear into consideration. For a while know we have seen the oncoming doom and have been saving up to prepare but now has become so obsessed with THIS plan in particular that he is not even considering OUR area and how to survive here. What's better is that he is printing off more copies and passing them out to his impressionable buddies who have survivalist mindsets.

So now it seems Pedro is the owner of his very own cult. Thank you for brain washing my father. =_=* Now I have headache."

"if only my parents were a sixteenth that easily convinced it took me two years to convivnce them to keep a case of bottled water in the house *sigh*"

"Actually most of the crop calculations are based on the US average yields.

Granted, you can't grow oranges in Maine without some sunlamps and a greenhouse, but for the majority of the crops he should be ok. The calculations are deliberately conservative to allow for mistakes and crop failures in the first few years, due to the learning curve as to what is needed to cultivate the different plants.

I endorse your dad's use of the plan. Just let him know that tools and equipment are the smallest part of it. The knowledge and experience will be a tougher thing to acquire."

"Anything you want to tell him, start with "Pedro says:..." :)

Trying to get proper seeds is tough. You can't go to most stores, you need to find local growers. If you tell them you are just trying to start a small garden, they should be willing to help you out."

"Those are commercial farmers. You need to find local growers. Ask for "heirloom" seeds."

"Pedro is but a prophet, not a diety.

The True Path is the Way of Damage."