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steamlen	Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 8 2010, 10:50 PM EDT Is it possible someone is going to be able to make there own guns after a while it seems reasonable since it seems like eventually the guns and bullets will be extremely scarce and hard to find so it seems like people will have to make there own eventually Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: ammo bullets firearms gun pistol rifle rounds shotgun
Zombiesnightmare	1. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 8 2010, 10:53 PM EDT "Is it possible someone is going to be able to make there own guns after a while it seems reasonable since it seems like eventually the guns and bullets will be extremely scarce and hard to find so it seems like people will have to make there own eventually" I know my grand father does gun smithing, but he does one bit, then a friend will do another. Although the guns he makes are very expensive. So with the right knowlegde tools etc you could make guns i guess. Not to sure about bullets though Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
ww3sabiture	2. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 8 2010, 10:59 PM EDT you can make a 9mm smg for about $50. and you can even use all hand tools to make it. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Zombiesnightmare	3. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 8 2010, 11:04 PM EDT Really? Info please? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
EdOfTheDead2	4. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 8 2010, 11:39 PM EDT I remember reading an article where the some police over in Europe ceased a few homemade guns. They were crude but worked. So, if a bunch of mobsters or gang bangers can do it over in Europe pre Z-day, I don;t see why we couldn't do it post Z-day. In regards to ammo, with the Israeli war going on the 1948-ish, Iraeli's ran a bullet making plant under a Laundromat. They made the shell casings out of lip stick cases they imported from Europe. They would reshape the casings and then follow the regular cartridge loading process. Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jdi35	5. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 9 2010, 5:12 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 9 2010, 5:12 PM EDT "Really? Info please?" ok, i'll give you the basics on making an FA smg, zombiesnightmare. materials needed some pieces of square tubing roughly 1 1/2"w x 8"l for the frame and mag well and various sheet metal parts a couple pieces of hardened steel roughly 1 1/4"w x 2"l x 1"h for the bolt and barrel trunnion piece of steel tubing big enough for the bullet to fit in as the barrel various nuts and screws to hold everything together. 1 #10 screw about 1/4" longer than the bolt with its end ground down to a relative point for a fixed firing pin basically, what this makes is a full auto, open-bolt smg. there is a notch in the bottom of the bolt for the bolt catch. when the trigger is pressed, the bolt catch slips out of the notch and the bolt moves forward. as long as the trigger is depressed, it will continue to fire until the mag is empty. like i said, this is the basics of building an smg. if you want detailed info, try weaponsguild.com. they got pretty much everything there for the average gunsmith. making FA firearms is illegal unless you have a type 7 or type 10 FFL with a class 3 tax stamp, otherwise expect to be spending some time with Bubba. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
182crazyking	6. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 9 2010, 5:25 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 9 2010, 5:25 PM EDT If you guys don't want to find potassium nitrate to make gunpowder, here's a simple wikipedia recipie. Ingredients: Urine Straw Water Time Directions: Wet some straw with urine and let it rot for a couple months. Wash the crystals out of the heap with water and let the water evaporate. You now have saltpeter crystals - crude potassium nitrate. Leftover KNO3 can be used as fertilizer as well. Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
theghostnthedarkness	7. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 12:09 AM EDT you could always just make zip-guns. i havent made one but i have thought about it. it might not be the safest thing for repeated use but it would work in a pinch. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
duterfel	8. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 12:18 AM EDT "Is it possible someone is going to be able to make there own guns after a while it seems reasonable since it seems like eventually the guns and bullets will be extremely scarce and hard to find so it seems like people will have to make there own eventually" Why does everyone seem to think that ammunition will suddenly become scarce? There is more than enough ammo on this planet to put several rounds in everyons head. Once that is gone...we can make ammo. It's not that hard people. You just have to know what you are doing and have the right equipment. Manufacturing guns is a little bit different. Smooth bore guns would be the best to try for starters. Rifling will be tough to do without the right machines. If you have the right equipment you can build just about anything...but you have to know what you are doing. Steamlen...do you know what you are doing? Do you really think you know enough about guns or ammunition to start making your own? I think you will have more pressing issues to worry about during a Z-poc. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Survivor15	9. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 12:44 AM EDT Hey, I've actually been wondering... I have an extra 12g 28" barrel lying around. Could I make a gun using that as a starting point? It seems much safer than some of these other ideas being thrown around from time to time. ONLY TO BE DONE IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jdi35	10. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 2:12 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 10 2010, 2:15 AM EDT "Hey, I've actually been wondering... I have an extra 12g 28" barrel lying around. Could I make a gun using that as a starting point? It seems much safer than some of these other ideas being thrown around from time to time. ONLY TO BE DONE IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS " well, first it depends on what the barrel is for, rem, mossy, benelli, etc. its very difficult finding shotgun inner parts, receivers and bolts especially. there are websites that you can pick up a shotgun receiver but you need a manufacturer's FFL to get it. then of course you need to pickup all the rest of the parts. here's a mossberg 500 receiver: http://www.centerfiresystems.com/rec-moss500.aspx and here's a bolt assembly for it: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=174207113 and a trigger assembly: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9425/Product/Trigger_Housing_Assembly and after you get all the parts and put it together just the way you want, you'll probably be mad cause you'll realize that it would have been cheaper just to get a new gun. hell, the receiver i posted is 25% of the price of the gun at retail. the trigger set is 40%, and all the other odds and ends will add another 50% of the gun's retail price ( we're up to 115% of retail so far). then any extras (like a good collapsible stock) could potentially double the cost. but hey, if ya got the money for it, why not. EDIT:this is slightly exaggerated mainly cause i didn't do extensive research this time, but it will still be more expensive then buying a new shotgun outright. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
theghostnthedarkness	11. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 2:31 AM EDT "well, first it depends on what the barrel is for, rem, mossy, benelli, etc. its very difficult finding shotgun inner parts, receivers and bolts especially. there are websites that you can pick up a shotgun receiver but you need a manufacturer's FFL to get it. then of course you need to pickup all the rest of the parts. here's a mossberg 500 receiver: http://www.centerfiresystems.com/rec-moss500.aspx and here's a bolt assembly for it: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=174207113 and a trigger assembly: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9425/Product/Trigger_Housing_Assembly and after you get all the parts and put it together just the way you want, you'll probably be mad cause you'll realize that it would have been cheaper just to get a new gun. hell, the receiver i posted is 25% of the price of the gun at retail. the trigger set is 40%, and all the other odds and ends will add another 50% of the gun's retail price ( we're up to 115% of retail so far). then any extras (like a good collapsible stock) could potentially double the cost. but hey, if ya got the money for it, why not. EDIT:this is slightly exaggerated mainly cause i didn't do extensive research this time, but it will still be more expensive then buying a new shotgun outright." i do believe he was talking about doing a homemade job using the barrel as the base and then building around it. at least that way he knows he has a safe barrel to shoot out of. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jdi35	12. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 3:07 AM EDT "i do believe he was talking about doing a homemade job using the barrel as the base and then building around it. at least that way he knows he has a safe barrel to shoot out of." alright, i wasn't thinking like that. my brain must be broken or something. some types of shotguns are easier to make, like the break actions. others like the pumps and semis are a bit more challenging because of the trigger group and the elevator just make sure to make it out of strong stuff, you don't wanna have it blow up in your face because you used an aluminum receiver rather than steel. 12ga is a strong round so take it from the Russians. "it may not be pretty, but its built like a tank" Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Filadog	13. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 6:41 AM EDT "Is it possible someone is going to be able to make there own guns after a while it seems reasonable since it seems like eventually the guns and bullets will be extremely scarce and hard to find so it seems like people will have to make there own eventually" There are many millions of guns out there.I think very few guns ever get shot enough so they wear out, I routinly shoot guns that are well over 100 years old...I just have a hard time seeing a situation where it would ever be easier to make a gun then finding one...and of course you should already have them now , right? You can forget about making ammo (I'm not talking reloading but actually making it)...Can you make powder and primers now out of scratch? If you can't do it now how you going to do it In a PAW situation? Just because you've read how it is done doesn't mean you will be able to do it Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Survivor15	14. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 2:56 PM EDT "There are many millions of guns out there.I think very few guns ever get shot enough so they wear out, I routinly shoot guns that are well over 100 years old...I just have a hard time seeing a situation where it would ever be easier to make a gun then finding one...and of course you should already have them now , right? You can forget about making ammo (I'm not talking reloading but actually making it)...Can you make powder and primers now out of scratch? If you can't do it now how you going to do it In a PAW situation? Just because you've read how it is done doesn't mean you will be able to do it" I live in California. As of now, due to legal issues, I am not in possession of my firearms. If you want the details, go on freenode and ask Drew or John_234. I have all the ammo I need right now, but if TSHTF right now, I need an alternative. I suppose I could rig the barrel into a single shot gun if necessary. jdi35, I wish I could buy that mossy receiver. $50 is a good price. The gun would impress even the Russians by the time I was done with it. I take extreme pride in not being a brainwashed typical teenager. No video-games or mall for me. Taking things into practice and learning through trial and error have gotten me far in life. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
John_234	15. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 3:23 PM EDT Personally, I think there's enough guns in the US that I won't live long enough to need a homemade firearm. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
AlexHigginbotham	16. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 3:46 PM EDT "Personally, I think there's enough guns in the US that I won't live long enough to need a homemade firearm." Depends on government over the next 50 years as well. Next to go are handguns and all other external magazine fed semi autos. Whatever you do don't make a barrel out of cheap or weak material. You will end up killing yourself. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Survivor15	17. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 10 2010, 4:31 PM EDT "Depends on government over the next 50 years as well. Next to go are handguns and all other external magazine fed semi autos. Whatever you do don't make a barrel out of cheap or weak material. You will end up killing yourself." Exactly. I already have a ready made barrel that goes on my Mossberg. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
dragonvilla4	18. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 19 2010, 3:41 PM EDT actually ive been working on making a semi auto gun that is open bolt and spring operated i already have the schematics and alot of the the stuff to make it it will take me maybe at most 2-4 years before im fully done all the stuff that im using to make it are completely legal and i made them myself a prototype will be composed in about a year but i havent found the time to start making my gun yet im too occupied testing rockets and explosives Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
arkilight	19. RE: Making guns and bullets post z day Jul 19 2010, 6:14 PM EDT i have the stuff to make a musket. bought it at cabelas, you could make amo, all you need is a mold and lead, powder is not hard to find either. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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