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dragonvilla4 |
Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 6:37 PM EDT
when it comes to it seems like it would be more easier to make your own rockets and use them as some kind of artillery rather than trying to find a blackpowder canon i already have made a desighn for a rocket and the materials ill need which will be easily found and scavenged the only diffucult part would be to make it explode on impact i would need to find out how to make primers because i could just use a fuse to set them off. and a metal tube to put them in
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TheLoadedGun |
1. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 6:49 PM EDT
Rockets look like they would take too much work and not have enough good come out of it.
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John_234 |
2. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 7:29 PM EDT
When you can find an affordable equivalent to a modern, produced rocket, maybe. But I'm skeptic you could find a good enough motor to propel and minimize backblast, with a warhead that keeps the plastic explosive filler from accidentally detonating, while also exploding consistently upon impact.
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brandon_a_boyer |
3. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 7:42 PM EDT
I feel pretty confident it wouldn't be difficult, proper detonation is the most difficult part.
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4. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 7:45 PM EDT
really? what were you planning to use for rocket fuel. how were you planning on stabilizing the weight distribution issues in flight (so it doesn't turn into a pinwheel of death) what type of launch platform were you planning on usingDo you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
5. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 7:54 PM EDT
I'd use a solid or gelled fuel with an oxidizer like potassium nitrate. Keep the weight towards the back and utilize long fins at the tail, and i'd probably just use a greased steel tube or v-channel as a launch platform. If the mythbusters can build a rocket using salami as the fuel, i'm sure I could manage something.
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Carnack |
6. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 8:47 PM EDT
Rockets take far more effort to create and launch safely than a black powder cannon.
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Filadog |
7. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 8:55 PM EDT
What would you need to shoot with a rocket ?Do you really think you could build a rocket using stuff you found that would be powerful and accurate enough to be effective?....Sounds like a fantasy weapon Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 9:29 PM EDT
"I'd use a solid or gelled fuel with an oxidizer like potassium nitrate. Keep the weight towards the back and utilize long fins at the tail, and i'd probably just use a greased steel tube or v-channel as a launch platform. If the mythbusters can build a rocket using salami as the fuel, i'm sure I could manage something."its one thing to swing on by a hobby store and pick up a JATO rocket. its quite another to put together your own fuel combo without blowing your face off in the process. how would you go about doing it Mr Boyer? Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
9. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 9:39 PM EDT
"its one thing to swing on by a hobby store and pick up a JATO rocket. its quite another to put together your own fuel combo without blowing your face off in the process. how would you go about doing it Mr Boyer?"As i said before, I would use a solid/ gel fuel. Probably either Black powder or gelled Alcohol and either a clay or steel nozzle. If 13th century Chinese could do it, I'm sure I could manage a workable design. Now, would I shoulder Fire this? hell no, my ass would be standing way back with a wall between me and it. Do you find this valuable? |
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10. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 9:45 PM EDT
"As i said before, I would use a solid/ gel fuel. Probably either Black powder or gelled Alcohol and either a clay or steel nozzle. If 13th century Chinese could do it, I'm sure I could manage a workable design.has anybody ever tried making R-candy solid state motors? could be an effective application of an abundant fuel source. Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
11. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 9:53 PM EDT
I've made smoke bombs that way, but never tried for a rocket motor.
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12. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:17 PM EDT
"I've made smoke bombs that way, but never tried for a rocket motor."same mixture just add a nozzle to it and blast off! give it a try sometime I'm betting you will be impressed with it. its about the strongest solid state motor you can make without all the legal hangups and corrosive chemicals. also its about as stable as rocket fuel gets once its in its solid form. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
13. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:18 PM EDT
"As i said before, I would use a solid/ gel fuel. Probably either Black powder or gelled Alcohol and either a clay or steel nozzle. If 13th century Chinese could do it, I'm sure I could manage a workable design.13th century Chinese had the threat of death hanging over them for *not* doing it. So it came down to Maybe Die Doing or Definitly Die Not Doing. Seems to me with your head you could do better than a rocket. Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
14. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:39 PM EDT
I'm not saying that a rocket would be practical or effective against zeds. I was simply pointing on that if it was necessary, it could be, and has been, done.If i had my way i'd have the disk launcher from unreal build and ready to fire. but the thread was about rockets, so i talked about rockets. Do you find this valuable? |
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15. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:43 PM EDT
"13th century Chinese had the threat of death hanging over them for *not* doing it. So it came down to Maybe Die Doing or Definitly Die Not Doing.hey now, you never know when a shoulder fired copper cone penetrator will come in handy. maybe not for zombies but I'm sure there would be a few raiders in self armored vehicles wondering the wastelands as well. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
16. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:47 PM EDT
"hey now, you never know when a shoulder fired copper cone penetrator will come in handy. maybe not for zombies but I'm sure there would be a few raiders in self armored vehicles wondering the wastelands as well. "That's what IEDs are for :P Do you find this valuable? |
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brandon_a_boyer |
17. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:51 PM EDT
"That's what IEDs are for :P"Copper cone penetrators can't reach their maximum effectiveness in IEDs, the standoff distance of detonation has to be just right, otherwise they don't penetrate effectively. That's why the Troops in the middle east started using cage armor to combat rpg attacks, the premature detonation prevents the molten copper from penetrating the armor. Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:53 PM EDT
"That's what IEDs are for :P"really, please explain to me how you would go about building an IED. please include your explosive compounds and locations where you would find them along with the detonation system and blasting caps. people love to talk about building IED's or any explosive device for that matter but rarely have the knowledge or experience to do so. so please, impress me. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
19. RE: Rockets?
Jul 18 2010, 11:54 PM EDT
"Copper cone penetrators can't reach their maximum effectiveness in IEDs, the standoff distance of detonation has to be just right, otherwise they don't penetrate effectively. That's why the Troops in the middle east started using cage armor to combat rpg attacks, the premature detonation prevents the molten copper from penetrating the armor."I mean if I'm going to be dealing with vehicles I'd use IEDs. Yes they require a more tactical approach but the required resources are minimal and open-ended in some cases. Do you find this valuable? |