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Quentin719 |
This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:18 PM EDT
I am a teenager in colorado, and my family situation isn't one that can adhere to this plan. Here's why. 1. My parents are divorced and live at least fifty miles from each other. 2. My mom caught me making a Bug out bag and now won't trust the "emergency kit" excuse. 3. My dad will immediately go to a major city or wherever the news says is safe without question (and most likely get me killed with him). 4. My mom's car wouldn't last two seconds with a zombie trying to get in. 5. My sister get's scared way too easily to survive. 6. My houses are poorly fortified if they decide to hold out at one. 7. My chance of being in a scarcely populated area when the SHTF is only two in fourteen. 8. There are only three safe zones in Colorado listed on this site, neither of which my parents will go to. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?
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arkilight |
1. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:22 PM EDT
if it really gets bad, just go down fighting man. Thats what i would do.
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2WheeledSpeed |
2. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:25 PM EDT
Pray you turn 18 before the SHTF?
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PedroAsani |
3. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:27 PM EDT
It applies because:1. You are not incapable of having two conversations. 2. You failed to explain yourself, and discuss this with her like a responsible adult. Until you do so she will be opposed to the situation. Show her the site. Have her read both The Panic and Teenage Survival. If you cannot convince her to spend five minutes reading something important to you, there is no way you will survive the hostilities of Z-day. 3. Have him read The Panic. Again, if you can't do that, you won't survive anyway. 4. (a) What type of car, and (b) avoid The Panic, and set off before or after it. 5. And? 6. Which is why talking about disaster preparations with the adults of the house will make the biggest difference. 7. How did you come up with that number? 8. Again, DISCUSS this with them. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
4. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:27 PM EDT
"if it really gets bad, just go down fighting man. Thats what i would do."That goes against the survival mentality. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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arkilight |
5. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:36 PM EDT
well, in a total c.f situation what would you do? I would only use this in a cluster f**k kinda thing like he talked about.
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PedroAsani |
6. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 8:38 PM EDT
"well, in a total c.f situation what would you do? I would only use this in a cluster f**k kinda thing like he talked about. "The whole point is to talk about PREPARATION long before there is a disaster. It's no good having the conversation when the dead are roaming the streets. Too late, you are all dead. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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arkilight |
7. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 9:16 PM EDT
well, where all dead anyway, your going to die. In my book, its not when your going, its how you are.
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brandon_a_boyer |
8. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 9:17 PM EDT
Can you honestly expect a parent to take any kid who shows them a website about zombie survival to take them seriously? If he shows her with any iota of seriousness, she'll just laugh at him.Right now, your safety is what you make of it. The first thing you need to do is learn. Learn about firearms, learn about basic survival habits. If your school has hands on shop classes, take a few of them. Suggest to your parents that you take firearms courses, if they ask Why, tell them you think it'd be a nice thing to do together. Start honing your mind and it will change the way you perceive the world around you. If you are traveling in a car, do you know how far you've gone? Can you judge distance accurately? Was that door opened or closed last time you passed it? That cute girl that you passed in the hallway, what did her outfit look like? Survival means going down fighting, not in the direct conflict sense, but in the not giving up sense. Do you find this valuable? |
mudroll |
9. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 9:53 PM EDT
"well, in a total c.f situation what would you do? I would only use this in a cluster f**k kinda thing like he talked about. "If you are in a cluster **** situation, guess what it means you are cluster ******. The whole point of preparation is so you don't get into that situation or did you miss out on that point. Do you find this valuable? |
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Quentin719 |
10. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 10:22 PM EDT
"It applies because:1. I get Your point. 2. The way she found out is probably why she won't cooperate. I had put twnty or so rifle rounds, some water bottles, and a few cans of food into a bug-out bag, and she found them while cleaning my room. That was an akward conversation to have. 3. Good Idea. 4. I'll have to check and get back to you, for now all I can say is its less than five feet tall, has low fuel efficiency, and has no traction on dirt roads. 5. I forgot why I put that one. 6. How? The biggest disaster possible out here is a blizzard. 7.I am at my dad's house for twelve, then at mom's house for two days. That's the schedule for who has custody over me, and mom lives in a rural area with very few residents. That means I am in a densely populated area for twelve days between the two days that I am out on a farm. 8. If you say so... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Quentin719 |
11. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 20 2010, 10:23 PM EDT
"Pray you turn 18 before the SHTF?"Good Idea..... Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
12. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 21 2010, 4:52 AM EDT
"6. How? The biggest disaster possible out here is a blizzard.Blizzards are an excellent reason to stockpile food, water, batteries, rope, etc. Sounds like you have a decent BOL ready-made. All you need to do is talk to both parents, have your mom stockpile (you may find she does already) and get your dad to keep some spare gasoline for Bugging Out. I say so, because I am right. You can't survive alone, you can't survive without them. But if you can get them to see that a few small alterations can have multiple benefits, including survivalism, you will be in better shape. Usual list applies: storm shutters, thicker doors, better locks, all are good for survivalism, all make good anti-burglary devices, and you can usually get lower home insurance premiums if you tell the company you have them. Food stockpiles, good for all manner of disasters, good for those who fear unemployment, good for those who may have unexpected guests drop by. Crop garden, saves money on a few vegetables, gives you some idea of what it is like to fend for yourself, (parents everywhere take note) it keeps kids occupied and stops them roaming the street. BOB's are good for disasters, but also for any sudden need to leave the house for a few days. One user recently had the pleasure of testing their BOBs due to a localised disaster. It could be something as banal as the water supply being shut off for a few days, or a relative gets taken ill. Do you find this valuable? |
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2WheeledSpeed |
13. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 21 2010, 9:32 AM EDT
"Good Idea....."Seriously buddy, there's not a whole lot you can do when you're still under your parents roof. Pedro thinks you should talk to them, I agree to some extent but if they don't want to listen to you... Whatcha gonna do? My advice, learn everything you possibly can between now and the time you either turn 18, or the SHTF. It can't hurt. And your parents probably won't say "No, I don't believe in my kids learning how to change a tire." Learn to work on cars, at least know how to make basic side of the road repairs. Learn to read a map, use a compass. See if you can go hiking, camping. Get out in the woods and practice surviving. Maybe one of your parents owns a gun and will take you shooting, maybe you know someone who (With your parents permission) will take you shooting. Heck if all else fails see if you can get a decent pellet gun and practice shooting with that, something is better than nothing. Learn as much as you can, about as many different things as you can. Don't spend too much time freaking out about your parents. Do you find this valuable? |
Maricely |
14. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Jul 21 2010, 1:25 PM EDT
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This is the site you should show your parents: http://www.redcross.org/portal/site/en/menuitem.d8aaecf214c576bf971e4cfe43181aa0/?vgnextoid=72c51a53f1c37110VgnVCM1000003481a10aRCRD&vgnextfmt=defaultLike others have said, use legitimate disasters as your reason for wanting to prepare. Do you find this valuable? |
Rocketman52 |
15. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Aug 1 2010, 6:05 PM EDT
Your sister may make it harder to survive, but no where near hard enough to justify leaving her behind. Its understandle to worry about keeping more people alive than you already do, but its most certainly a path without regrets.You could always print off a page from the website to show them - a page about the Panic from "some survival website" might be better than "a crazy group of zombie people". See if you can formulate a plan that would work with most scenarios - then add your sister. Then one parent. Then two. If nothing else, its a good exercise to prepare for a finale, full out plan. And lastly, do what you can when you can, but dont rush to make your parents work with you right away. Patience and time management are your best weapons here. Do you find this valuable? |
skgingerkid |
16. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Aug 1 2010, 6:48 PM EDT
join boyscouts you learn all the stuff you need to know some of the merit badges you should take are rifle shooting wilderness survival hiking emergency preparedness and small boat sailing
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SovietPrince |
17. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Aug 7 2010, 6:10 AM EDT
"join boyscouts you learn all the stuff you need to know some of the merit badges you should take are rifle shooting wilderness survival hiking emergency preparedness and small boat sailing"*just my .02 cents never enjoyed hearing the boyscouts recruit at my elementary school when i was a boy... "what time is tha meeting? 7 o clock. who can you bring? your mom or your dad or your guardian" made me sick* anyway... just a real real slight tip(i am not judging anyone's religious beliefs) if either of your parents is involved in or believes in Armageddon(God's final war) you can try to bring that to fruition.. although, its only usually workable if you were taught .. I personally have studied the book of Revelation, and used the idea of 'the end' to assist my mom in understanding why i had to create a double sided spear..(yes i will be putting pics up on my profile) anyway, just a small thought. that might also work for anyone who lives with their grandparents, as your grandpappy or grandmama usually will be more prone to understand.. btw: if it comes up that "God will protect you", I again will not denounce that phrase, but simply say that maybe you should add "well, maybe God wants me to have a survival knife just in case". Senior Members, please don't think this is a negative post, I simply wished to add a slight idea. If this offends anyone, I will edit it out (i know religion can be a touchy subject) Do you find this valuable? |
SGTGerman |
18. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Aug 7 2010, 6:26 AM EDT
Hmm as much as I agree that talking to your parents about it isn't a bad idea - don't see it as being that realistic. If you are of teen age they probably wont take you seriously.A BOB doesn't have to be for ZDay - just say that you're interested in survival and if you have survival problems with nature then just use that as a cover story. Do you find this valuable? |
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Quentin719 |
19. RE: This plan doesn't apply to my specific situation.
Aug 8 2010, 8:17 PM EDT
"to assist my mom in understanding why i had to create a double sided spear.."Do you mean a retractable one like in the predator movies, or one with a constant length? Do you find this valuable? |
