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Comrade_47	Come Z-day... Jul 20 2010, 9:37 PM EDT Will our parents trust us? Will they say "No, going to [PLANNED DESTINATION] is stupid, we're staying here"? If they'll trust us (unlikely, but not necessarily unreasonable), great, come on, Mom and Dad, let's get the hell out of here. If not, and Dad wants to stay put, is it unreasonable that we leave him behind? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: leave behind teenage survival
PedroAsani	1. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 21 2010, 4:57 AM EDT "Will our parents trust us? Will they say "No, going to [PLANNED DESTINATION] is stupid, we're staying here"? If they'll trust us (unlikely, but not necessarily unreasonable), great, come on, Mom and Dad, let's get the hell out of here. If not, and Dad wants to stay put, is it unreasonable that we leave him behind?" You are going the wrong way about it. If you talk to them now, you can get them to agree on the destination, or at least the route out of town. You don't specify why he might want to stay, either. I advocate Bugging In for as long as possible to avoid The Panic, and any subsequent desperate survivors. So maybe he has the right idea, and you can wait a while to eat your stockpile. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Comrade_47	2. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 21 2010, 6:08 PM EDT I agree with bugging in, it's when it's time to move I'm worried about. The whole "I say left, he says right" thing coming up could slow us down. That's my concern, is all. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	3. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 21 2010, 7:09 PM EDT "I agree with bugging in, it's when it's time to move I'm worried about. The whole "I say left, he says right" thing coming up could slow us down. That's my concern, is all." So pre-Z, sit down with a map, and plot out the best routes of escape. Take into account as many variables, such as time of day, day of week, time of year, and the disaster(s) you expect to encounter. For example, avoid taking bridges after an earthquake, and avoid valleys when you expect heavy rainfall or flooding. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sullivan714	4. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 21 2010, 7:15 PM EDT "Will our parents trust us? Will they say "No, going to [PLANNED DESTINATION] is stupid, we're staying here"? If they'll trust us (unlikely, but not necessarily unreasonable), great, come on, Mom and Dad, let's get the hell out of here. If not, and Dad wants to stay put, is it unreasonable that we leave him behind?" Mine already beat me to it. They moved to the other side of the country with their own rural property. Oh well, at least I've got a destination come Z Day Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dragonvilla4	5. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 22 2010, 8:53 PM EDT My dads in jail and my mom dosent care shes just a stupid computer addict/Alchoholic why in the H*** would i take her with me and dont get me started with my brother. We cant agrea on anything so I would be okay if we didnt stay with each other since we always fight. Last night we got in a small knife fight i beat him but he nearly cut my middle finger off and stabbed me on my right army twice! So im definitely not bringing him with me if a zombie apocolyse or a major rager infection breaks out. Also i definitely wouldn't bring my 6 year old sister shes a spoiled migit who constantley annoys me. So if things get bad like an outbreak or a zombie apocylypse im on my own even though im only 14 going to be 15 in a few months. see yall in the central valley!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SasquatchJim	6. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 22 2010, 8:57 PM EDT "My dads in jail and my mom dosent care shes just a stupid computer addict/Alchoholic why in the H*** would i take her with me and dont get me started with my brother. We cant agrea on anything so I would be okay if we didnt stay with each other since we always fight. Last night we got in a small knife fight i beat him but he nearly cut my middle finger off and stabbed me on my right army twice! So im definitely not bringing him with me if a zombie apocolyse or a major rager infection breaks out. Also i definitely wouldn't bring my 6 year old sister shes a spoiled migit who constantley annoys me. So if things get bad like an outbreak or a zombie apocylypse im on my own even though im only 14 going to be 15 in a few months. see yall in the central valley!!!" ...I have no comment on this. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SovietPrince	7. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 22 2010, 11:11 PM EDT "...I have no comment on this." neither do i.. showed it to john and drewblet Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SurvivalSniper	8. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 22 2010, 11:16 PM EDT "My dads in jail and my mom dosent care shes just a stupid computer addict/Alchoholic why in the H*** would i take her with me and dont get me started with my brother. We cant agrea on anything so I would be okay if we didnt stay with each other since we always fight. Last night we got in a small knife fight i beat him but he nearly cut my middle finger off and stabbed me on my right army twice! So im definitely not bringing him with me if a zombie apocolyse or a major rager infection breaks out. Also i definitely wouldn't bring my 6 year old sister shes a spoiled migit who constantley annoys me. So if things get bad like an outbreak or a zombie apocylypse im on my own even though im only 14 going to be 15 in a few months. see yall in the central valley!!!" Your brilliance and your survival skills must be beyond compare.... Hope your ready Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
duterfel	9. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 22 2010, 11:26 PM EDT "Your brilliance and your survival skills must be beyond compare.... Hope your ready" He's ready alright...for juvenile detention. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Eritsukukun	10. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 23 2010, 5:27 AM EDT "I agree with bugging in, it's when it's time to move I'm worried about. The whole "I say left, he says right" thing coming up could slow us down. That's my concern, is all." First of all you shouldn't naturally assume that he doesn't know what he is doing. If if he is around 40 now and you are around 15 he has lived more than twice as long as you and he has probably experience about things. If this is a true concern for you should talk to them about it and most important. Make the plan you present a plan that applies to all disasters. I am sure that if you can get him to accept survival skills as a hobby he would have some good things to add. If the day comes he will know that you have this sort of thing as a hobby and have put a lot of thought into it. And to be quite honest. He will probably be right about a large amount of things when it comes to decision making by the fact that he is not a teenager. Teenagers are very prone to make awesome choices rather than safe choices. Your dad will know this because he knows what kind of choices he made at your age. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Eritsukukun	11. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 23 2010, 5:40 AM EDT "He's ready alright...for juvenile detention. " And that might be a good place to be when the apocalypse comes. What better place to be than a group of people with clear group mentality and a complete disregard for other peoples safety. Fences and heavy gates are good too. The mental issues would be a problem tough. @dragonvilla4: If you do not save your mother or your sister when you have the ability to it will haunt you for the rest of your life. And from a survival perspective a 6 year old girl is the most valuable thing you can have. It keeps your priorities straight and she is an important link to continue mankind. When you get older and get your own life you will think back on that comment and regret it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jjthomas3	12. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 27 2010, 7:11 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 7:13 AM EDT "Last night we got in a small knife fight i beat him but he nearly cut my middle finger off and stabbed me on my right army twice!" How do you win a knife fight if you almost lose a finger and get stabbed twice? And how many stitches did you need for your finger? Another thing, me and my brother could feel like we are about to kill each other, but if I was given the chance, would I abandon him? No, I wouldn't, because no matter how much I think I hate him, he is still my brother. The same applies to you and your brother. You are family, you can pick almost anything in the world, but you can't pick family, and you only get one. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
duterfel	13. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 27 2010, 10:07 AM EDT "How do you win a knife fight if you almost lose a finger and get stabbed twice? And how many stitches did you need for your finger? Another thing, me and my brother could feel like we are about to kill each other, but if I was given the chance, would I abandon him? No, I wouldn't, because no matter how much I think I hate him, he is still my brother. The same applies to you and your brother. You are family, you can pick almost anything in the world, but you can't pick family, and you only get one." Good answer man. Of course you would not abandon your family. Your not an animal...your a living breathing thinking human being. It's in our nature to care for our families. Dragonvilla is just blowing smoke up all our butts. He would save his family just like everyone else. I don't that there is anyone here would perfer to be alone during a Z-poc. You can only live alone for so long before you start to lose your marbles. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Antidot3	14. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 27 2010, 10:18 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 10:22 AM EDT "...I have no comment on this." I do. Grow up and take charge, don't control them but work the issues out. Believe me, if you see these problems and get annoyed by your family being flawed, count yourself out of the survivor list, you're not going to make it. Humans are flawed, period, if you start hating them for it you're not only stupid, you're ignorant for not seeing your own weaknesses and flaws. Work things out with your family, believe me it's worth it. I know everyone 'hates' their family, but hating them and having these kind of fights is just stupid, and useless. Imagine how much better your life would be if your brother, your mom and sister would be able to help eachother out just because you set the first step to becoming a real family. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Antidot3	15. RE: Come Z-day... Jul 27 2010, 10:25 AM EDT Now on-topic. My parents would trust me, they know I've researched alot of things, they'll take my plan as a base but will tweak where I made mistakes. My parents are seperated, and my mother will be moving up the country somewhere this year, so we'll have to pick eachother up, or meet up, but hell yes I'm taking them with me. I think that if you let your parents know that you've read and thought about this alot, they will trust your judgement, at least as a basic plan for them to evaluate (spelling?) and work on. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Rocketman52	16. RE: Come Z-day... Aug 1 2010, 5:49 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 5:49 PM EDT I agree that you really would want to bring parents in almost any situation imaginable. But there are some people that are literally and incurable insane, from what Ive seen. In an apocalyptic situation, the mindset they have could be dangerous. And some of these people have children. Personally, I am very lucky - my father is a very smart, very tough, very reasonable man. And my mother is most certainly trusting enough to let me do whats right. Should the worst happen, I could simply say "I know what to do", and (maby with a little explaining) they would be the upmost of helpful. But one of my best frinds has a mother that is out of control. If that sort of disaster happened, such a person would become all the more unreasonable, panicky - and dangerous. I have not a single problem believing that she would put herself and entire family in danger (Which leaves me at a problem with how to save my friend. I may have to convice her and her siblings to leave thier mother to save what family they have left.) So I do agree - you need your parents to come to help your chances for survival. But in some cases they may put you in impossible situations. You cant say every situation is salvagable, because not every one is. This goes back to Comrade's opening point - do you leave for your own safety? Or stay in serious danger just to be with the family? Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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