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dragonvilla4 |
Lamps post z day
Jul 22 2010, 9:05 PM EDT
Since most people will probably not have electrcity to power lightbulbs i came up with a good alternitive.What about lamps you know the old kind that used candles and were made from metal and glass? Post Z day light that dosent need electrcity would be useful a candle light lamp still provides at least a good amount of light. Also if you are conservitive they can last a very long time the only problem would be making the candles and the lamps themselves. Otherwise in the long run candle lamps would be good to have since most people will be less likely to have electricity so wat does everyone think? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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SovietPrince |
1. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 22 2010, 11:06 PM EDT
"Since most people will probably not have electrcity to power lightbulbs i came up with a good alternitive.well, lampwise, the older things are alot more flammable and kerosene is especially flammable. i suppose that if you got wax and some wicks you could make candles.. Do you find this valuable? |
Godbuster |
2. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 1:19 AM EDT
"Since most people will probably not have electrcity to power lightbulbs i came up with a good alternitive.Hrmm...maybe tallow candle? Google that sh!t. jk Do you find this valuable? |
AlexHigginbotham |
3. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 2:27 AM EDT
Scrape the back of your knife across bare animal fat (works best with fish) to get a nice gooey oil residue. Mixed with cloth, this can make a pretty decent little oil lamp.
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toxic_shock |
4. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 2:39 AM EDT
The oil lamps that your grandma probably has laying around in her basement would be perfect. Last month I visited my Dad in Illinois and a storm tore through hours before I got there, knocking the power out all weekend. We dug up a couple ancient lamps out of his shed, dusted them off and lit em up. Worked great all weekend.
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Filadog |
5. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 5:47 AM EDT
I have more then a couple old oil lamps and they work fine. You could make a simple one out of just a jaw with a lid and a wick but old ones with a chimney and a reflector work better and since they are very easy to find for a few buccks just buy them.Same with the old time railroad and barn lanterns that you can carry around. I have burned diesil fuel in my lamps and while maybe a little more smokey worked OK I also have many [ I sort of went on a buying kick last year] Colman gas lanterns, again very common and cheap [$5 or so] and they put out alot of light. Supposed to run on white gasoline though I have seen some advertised to run on regular. gas that I plan on looking into I have friends that make candles, both tallow and beeswax, and I supose you could make candles and fat lamps but lots of oil out there that you could use in lamps so why?...I do have lots of candles put away If you do use candles get a good candle lantern with a reflector and is made so that the candle fits in tube that pushes it up as it burns. Candles burn longer and are brighter. I used to use an original Civil War one that converted from a portable lantern to one that sets by pulling the base down.....Really works well Do you find this valuable? |
White76Knight |
6. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 2:55 PM EDT
"well, lampwise, the older things are alot more flammable and kerosene is especially flammable.actually, modern petroleum based fuels (ie - kerosene) are flammable. Many older lanterns used natural oils (olive oil and the like) which at room temperature will not support their own combustion. What that means is that they must be preheated (usually by proximity to the flame as they seep up the wick) in order to burn. If you fill a glass lantern with kerosene or the like, and it tips over and shatters, as soon as the spilled kerosene comes into contact with the open flame WHOOF! Molotov Cocktail! The same lamp filled with something like olive oil will extinguish itself as the unheated oil will douse the flames. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
nate121 |
7. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 2:57 PM EDT
"actually, modern petroleum based fuels (ie - kerosene) are flammable. Many older lanterns used natural oils (olive oil and the like) which at room temperature will not support their own combustion. What that means is that they must be preheated (usually by proximity to the flame as they seep up the wick) in order to burn. "olive oil and canola (is that spelled right?) just need to be wicked to burn no preheating required Do you find this valuable? |
EdOfTheDead2 |
8. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 3:08 PM EDT
"olive oil and canola (is that spelled right?) just need to be wicked to burn no preheating required "Yep, spelling is impeccable. I should know, I got my fingers burnt from canola oil less than a week ago. Do you find this valuable? |
JunkCollector |
9. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 4:25 PM EDT
I have 3 kerosene lamps in the house, and 14 more in the barn. I have a book that is titled "ancient forms of light". I shows how light has been made from hundreds of different types of lamps and how the oil or fuel for them was or is made. Candle making is quite easy also, I suggest to carry a candle with you to use a candle lantern. If you make one try to cover the back with a shiny surface to enhance the focus of the light. Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
10. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 23 2010, 6:27 PM EDT
"olive oil and canola (is that spelled right?) just need to be wicked to burn no preheating required "but will they burn on their own without the wick? ie - if you drop a lit match into olive or canola oil, or spill some of either onto a lit match, what will happen? Usually you'll extinguish the flame. I wouldn't try that with kerosene, especially in any container or area that could hold fumes. Olive and canola oils = no flammable fumes. Do you find this valuable? |
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nate121 |
11. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 24 2010, 8:38 PM EDT
that's the point i was getting at White knight
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knifethruster |
12. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 25 2010, 10:03 PM EDT
Many people have TON of candles in their houses. If you're raiding a house, you should be able to find plenty of candlesStocking up on citronella candles might not be a bad idea (those candles keep mosquitoes at bay, and are supposed to last 30 hours). Do you find this valuable? |
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White76Knight |
13. RE: Lamps post z day
Jul 26 2010, 8:43 AM EDT
"Many people have TON of candles in their houses. If you're raiding a house, you should be able to find plenty of candlestrue, but remember that they can only be used outdoors and in other well ventilated areas, as they can release toxic fumes. Do you find this valuable? |
FrankLeeDeRainged |
14. RE: Lamps post z day
Monday, 11:20 AM EDT
The 'grandma' oil lamps ran on Kerosene (called paraffin in some places) but were designed to run on whale oil, which may be difficult to find. The spectacularly poor St Kilda islanders of Scotland had a novel form of lighting, seagulls! They dried and platted sea grasses to make a wick and took a (dead) seagull and threaded the wick through the bird. Propped it's beak open with a sliver of fishbone and pegged it's outstretched wings to the wall. Voila! a groovy seagull lamp. Apparently seagulls have a ridiculous amount of oil in their bodies (even before BP in the gulf) but the smell, Dear God! The St Kilderns were almost certainly the poorest community in western Europe before the island was evacuated in the 1920's. they were practically neolithic.
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