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thejanguy
thejanguy
Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 3:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 3:28 PM EDT
I am a swedish 13 year old and therefore don't have much in the way of financial resources. My parents do not own guns and i cant purchase them until i'm of age. What weapon can I acquire that is cheaply. The reason that I ask now is that I want as much training with the weapon as possible. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Do you find this valuable?    
Madurjafro
Madurjafro
1. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 3:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 3:35 PM EDT
I'd say a bow, Maybe theres some Archery club around maybe you'd want to join it, therefore you would get training in a weapon and your parents may buy you one if you wish to compete Etc.
Just wondering, what age can you have a gun in Sweden?
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jjthomas3
2. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 3:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 3:38 PM EDT
"I am a swedish 13 year old and therefore don't have much in the way of financial resources. My parents do not own guns and i cant purchase them until i'm of age. What weapon can I acquire that is cheaply. The reason that I ask now is that I want as much training with the weapon as possible. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks"
Isn't it extremely hard to get any kind of firearm at any age in Sweden?
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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
3. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 3:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 3:45 PM EDT
"Isn't it extremely hard to get any kind of firearm at any age in Sweden?"
I've read that it isn't hard to get a hunting license to buy a long gun (rifle or shotgun). But other than that, I believe Sweden has some pretty strict laws.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!
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zachy_vengeance
zachy_vengeance
4. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 5:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 5:14 PM EDT
Archery would be a good idea. I'd check around for any clubs.

Would your parent's/legal guardians buy a gun for you? It'd be in their name, but you could still shoot it.
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jjthomas3
5. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 5:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 5:23 PM EDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_BXxy2CEk

I don't know if this is up to date on the laws.
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Conmiro
Conmiro
6. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 8:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 8:44 PM EDT
A decent bow could be quite expensive. Hell, my fathrr's bow costs as much as an AR. Do you find this valuable?    
SurvivalSniper
SurvivalSniper
7. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Jul 27 2010, 8:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2010, 8:50 PM EDT
A good compound bow will probably be expensive, but maybe a recurve bow? Do you find this valuable?    
thejanguy
thejanguy
8. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 6:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 6:53 AM EDT
Ill probably do that, gun laws are tough on everything except hunting rifles which are not that hard to get if you have a license.
I am currently looking around for a good archery club.
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thejanguy
thejanguy
9. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 6:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 9:04 AM EDT
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Eritsukukun
Eritsukukun
10. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 8:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 8:04 AM EDT
"The swedish gun weapon laws are very tough I know a guy who got in trouble for carrying a scalpel."
In a public area. very important note.
Sweden has strict regulation on weapons cabinets and where you are allowed to fire your gun.
To get a hunters license you will need a hunters degree that you can take when you are 16. Not sure if you can own a gun until you are 18 tough.
If you want gun practice you should just join a shooting club. They scale the gun according to age but you can start developing an aim.

I don't know much about gun laws in Sweden since I am not planning to get a gun but I do know people that have a wide variety of guns including revolvers. The thing is that its not hard to get a licence if you have proper motivation but "In case someone tries to steal my car" is not proper motivation.
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thejanguy
thejanguy
11. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 9:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 9:06 AM EDT
And "In case of a zombie apocalypse" is not a good motivation either. Do you find this valuable?    
ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
12. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 10:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 10:00 AM EDT
"And "In case of a zombie apocalypse" is not a good motivation either."
Luckily in Texas I can buy for any type of "motivation" I have lol.

While a compound or recurve bow would be good choices, have you thought about crossbows any? Are the regulations on them any different?

Meanwhile until then you can still focus on melee. Start with a decent machete or an axe if you have one. I do not know if your family is the outdoors type or not, but if they are you probably already have tools available that would work. They may not be the best but the will be better than nothing.
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TheLoadedGun
TheLoadedGun
13. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 10:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 10:23 AM EDT
I said I want to target shoot, which I actually do, and my parents are going to get me a Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 and, maybe, a colt 1911. I also like the historical significance of the two, but that is beside the point. Make up a different reason, but don't create an excuse you're never going to be able to back up. Do you find this valuable?    
Eritsukukun
Eritsukukun
14. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 11:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 11:02 AM EDT
"I said I want to target shoot, which I actually do, and my parents are going to get me a Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 and, maybe, a colt 1911. I also like the historical significance of the two, but that is beside the point. Make up a different reason, but don't create an excuse you're never going to be able to back up."
Or don't make up something. Actually get a acceptable hobby that involves guns. There are worse ways to learn about guns than the people who have been shooting for years. And here is the kicker of it. Even if the zombie apocalypse doesn't happen you will still have a fun hobby.
@ItsMrManCub
If I ever feel the need to buy a machine gun to use on my back yard, Texas will be the first place I will move. I like the idea of voting with my feet.
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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
15. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 11:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 11:44 AM EDT
I don't know if I could handle living in a country where gun ownership is not a right... Do you find this valuable?    
Eritsukukun
Eritsukukun
16. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 2:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 2:34 PM EDT
"I don't know if I could handle living in a country where gun ownership is not a right..."
But you do have the right to own a gun. Just not any gun under any circumstance.
If you want a gun in order to hunt you have the right to do so no matter race gender or country of origin. Provided that you pass the tests connected with the gun.
your right to own a gun does not have to apply to all guns under all circumstances.
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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
17. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 2:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 3:05 PM EDT
"But you do have the right to own a gun. Just not any gun under any circumstance.
If you want a gun in order to hunt you have the right to do so no matter race gender or country of origin. Provided that you pass the tests connected with the gun.
your right to own a gun does not have to apply to all guns under all circumstances. "
No, in Sweden you do not have a RIGHT to own a gun. Sadly in many countries you do not have a RIGHT to own a gun. Why do you think it was so easy for England to practically outlaw firearms? Because they do not consider it a RIGHT.

A quick search of the Swedish Constitution shows zero mention of the words "gun, firearm, arm/arms, rifle, weapon". Much less any clear statement of your right to own a weapon for any purpose. If I'm wrong about Swedish law, or the Swedish Constitution please show me where.

A privilege to own a specific weapon for a specific purpose that is granted to you by the government is different than a right. Very different. And the government could revoke that privilege for any reason, at any time.
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ironhand
ironhand
18. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 3:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 3:18 PM EDT
Archery would definitely be your best choice, if you don't have access to a firearm.

I would suggest a light target recurve bow as they are relatively inexpensive and viewed more for recreational archery than for hunting in most political arenas.
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Eritsukukun
Eritsukukun
19. RE: Swedish Youth that needs weapons
Aug 1 2010, 4:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 1 2010, 4:58 PM EDT
"No, in Sweden you do not have a RIGHT to own a gun. Sadly in many countries you do not have a RIGHT to own a gun. Why do you think it was so easy for England to practically outlaw firearms? Because they do not consider it a RIGHT.

A quick search of the Swedish Constitution shows zero mention of the words "gun, firearm, arm/arms, rifle, weapon". Much less any clear statement of your right to own a weapon for any purpose. If I'm wrong about Swedish law, or the Swedish Constitution please show me where.

A privilege to own a specific weapon for a specific purpose that is granted to you by the government is different than a right. Very different. And the government could revoke that privilege for any reason, at any time."
I believe that USA is the only country in the world who finds the issue of arms an important enough issue to be included in the constitution.

But I guess if you make that definition of the word "Right" I will agree. We do not have the right to own guns.
But I dont know about the "any reason" and "any time" we are still a democracy. A law like that would require complete majority in our riksdag which is something not entirely easy to achieve.
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