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PointMan |
When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Jul 29 2010, 9:16 AM EDT
Being the oldest of my generation in my family I've been around the wee ones my whole life. Add in knowing how to run, walk, and march with 60 pound ruck and 90 pounds of gear I think I can help add the two together.First and foremost kids comfort level is out the window. It is about you and your partner being able to protect them and move with them. Streets are going to be littered with everything. The scum who prey on the weak will see the kids and think easy kill. If you have to take the kids anywhere I would use a vehicle. If you have to take them with you to raid they are your most important asset the strongest person will be in charge of them and they will be between the two of you. You might have to drop everything and run. Zombies is not my worry at all they just make the world a little annoying. The strollers is a huge mistake, both of your hands are occupied keeping the stroller balanced and pushing it also your eyes is on the stroller more than looking at your surroundings.The pull a longs that attach to a bike are second on the worse idea ever. Try keeping that thing balanced as you are hoping curbs and going around junk and other bits in the road, not going to happen. Front carriers you're using your child as a meat shield. Back packs the American Indians would carry their children like this for the first year of two years of their life just fine. This is the best way to carry AND protect your child. The front person can keep his eyes on the surroundings while the trail person is keeping the wee one occupied REMEMBER child's comfort level don't mean crap right now. Second best is a sling. If you cannot get a child seat back pack or make one go with a sling. both hands are still free and able to run. Keep in mind that you should not be carrying any extra weight, your priority is the child. I know this isn't exactly what you was looking for, but I hope it helps. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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kinelta |
1. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Jul 29 2010, 2:28 PM EDT
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Actually, this is the type of stuff I am looking for.As for the vehicle being a first choice when moving chilren, I should hope that it would be. I know it is for me. But there is always the possibilty that a vehicle may not be available for whatever reason. Bugging out on foot needs to be considered, no matter how unpleasant it may be. Best to prepare for the worst case scenario. In that case you need other alternatives to moving little ones, which is why the page was created. I'm hoping that by weighing the advantages and disadvantages of each mode of transport a person or group can decide which would be the best option for them in their particular circumstance. I'll give an opinion for my own circumstances: the sling would be the first option for me because it's the easiest way for me to carry a baby and a toddler. I have no problem hip-carrying a 35 pound child, but on the back it would absolutely kill me. A backpack would not be the best choice, but for someone like my husband it would work well. He can carry heavy loads on his back for far longer and for greater distances than I can. As for strollers, especially for babies that aren't or barely are mobile, I'd feel as if they were in a compromising position. They are easy to grab out of a stroller, easy to attack, an are judt sitting targets in general. But if there were many kids being moved, an older child, such as a three year old, might be better off there, consiering that they have the ability to move. Or maybe not. I leave it for those in charge of youngsters to decide. Nice to see you around again, btw. :) edit spelling Do you find this valuable? |
zombiegirl311 |
2. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 4 2010, 6:39 PM EDT
First of all i like the new page. Second, a vehilcle would be the obvious first choice, but at some point it can only take you so far, it could break down run out of gas. Running on foot is a a big possibility. I honeslty dread that part, the thought of running with both my children. its scares the hell out of me. Im hoping that they will be older when the SHTF. Do you find this valuable? |
TheLoadedGun |
3. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 4 2010, 7:36 PM EDT
ARMORED STROLLERS!!!I like that, but it's not practical. If I was carrying I child, which I hope I won't because I'm 14, I would carry him in a backpack. It's just the only way I could balance myself and still retain a good degree of mobility. In fact, I tried to carry my 65 pound younger friend in my backpack. He didn't balance in there quite rite, but I'm sure a toddler would fit. I think it would also be safest if you were on a bike/motorcycle. But, the old vehicle will be king. Do you find this valuable? |
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PointMan |
4. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 7:46 PM EDT
Timber said the same thing.Your husband would be the person in charge of the children cause he can carry them, also you carrying two at once is not an option. The three of you would die if you get attacked or injured. a three year old can walk just fine remember their comfort level means NOTHING anymore it is about surviving period. Do you find this valuable? |
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PointMan |
5. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 7:47 PM EDT
"ARMORED STROLLERS!!!Not a good idea. strollers are a mess to try and navigate with to start with now add make shift armor to it... Do you find this valuable? |
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PointMan |
6. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 7:50 PM EDT
"ARMORED STROLLERS!!!Also we are not talking about backpacks, we are talking about a child seat that is made to be on someones back.... they sell them just about everywhere that sells outdoor gear. Do you find this valuable? |
Whybother08 |
7. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 7:56 PM EDT
"a three year old can walk just fine remember their comfort level means NOTHING anymore it is about surviving period.That doesn't mean you can push a three-year old to hike 40 or so miles a day with you, just because comfort is out the window. Toddlers aren't Marines. You can smack that kid around as much as you want, I guarentee you that he/she will still quit after the first few miles. Their comfort *WILL* mean something when they start kicking and screaming, which can be much more dangerous than simply pushing a stroller. Do you find this valuable? |
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PointMan |
8. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 8:09 PM EDT
I do not have children, but carrying a toddler and a baby would not work. I did not state any where that I would be marching the wee lil ones, we are basically going on a shopping trip.
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Whybother08 |
9. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 8:17 PM EDT
"I do not have children, but carrying a toddler and a baby would not work. I did not state any where that I would be marching the wee lil ones, we are basically going on a shopping trip."I didn't think you would. It's just that I think you shouldn't just throw the kid's comfort straight out of the 7th story window. Sure, don't pamper him, you can't afford to do that, but don't treat him like a backpack (not talking down on the back-sling idea) either. Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
10. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 9:59 PM EDT
"our husband would be the person in charge of the children cause he can carry them, also you carrying two at once is not an option. The three of you would die if you get attacked or injured.Oh yes it is. If I have to pick up the toddler and run I certainly will. It's quite possible to hold a baby in a sling or back pack and carry the toddler. I've done it. I know it is so. Also, you can't expect a three year old to walk long distances, nor keep the same pace as an adult. Stollers, especially jogging stollers, and the child unbuckled, would be the best option in such a case. These strollers in particular are useful for several types of terrain, not just pavement. Not to mention that they are made for running. Do you find this valuable? |
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Whybother08 |
11. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 10:09 PM EDT
"Oh yes it is. If I have to pick up the toddler and run I certainly will. It's quite possible to hold a baby in a sling or back pack and carry the toddler. I've done it. I know it is so.His arguement was that strollers take both of your hands. Which is apparently a huge mistake, for some reason. Maybe because you should have both of your hands on your assault rifle. I believe they're called....handguns, I think? Here's a better one: If you have one or more babies or toddlers, find more people that you trust, other than your spouse. That way someone else can hold the assault rifle for you. Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
12. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 10:15 PM EDT
Well, it is always possible to stop and shoot, which is what I would do. But I intend to avoid confrontation. I'm hiding first and shooting later.I've got my parents, anyway. But I'm thinking worst case scenario... no one else but me. It's my worst nightmare. Do you find this valuable? |
timberrattler |
13. RE: When babies are part of the bug out plan!
Aug 15 2010, 10:17 PM EDT
I have two children aged 7 and 5. My situation is unique in that if we were forced to bug out on foot we'd be using our horses. One horse would be carrying supplies the other would be carrying our children.Good news BTW for anyone concerned. Me and my wife called off our divorce and are working out our differences. Thanks to everyone who was pulling for us. I have some good friends here. You know who you are. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
