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Zman45
Zman45
The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:04 PM EDT
As our bodies have physical limitations in life, it is as so in death. The only reason we aren't piles of dirt on the floor is because we are living tissue. the Undead are not living incase you didn't already know this... ... thier bodies do not carry on any of lifes processes, therefore they begin to decompose as a normal dead body would other than the fact that they want to rip you limb from limb. "Hollywood" although entertaining, has yet still neglected to capture the truth. If I was a track runner in life, of coarse i'm going to chase you in the afterlife; unless my body (legs) are damaged to the point my bones, muscle and or tendons can't respond to the activity of running. When you see in movies, a zombie getting knee capped and continuing to persue in sprint form...BS!! knees are knees dead or alive...no knees = NO walking PERIOD. and if a zombie can't reach you, it can't bite you. Bodies go through stages after death... 4 stages of MORTIS, not to mention the unmistakable stench (i've smelled personally all too often; even held a number of actual human corpses/pieces). Any-hoo, If u can survive the initial outbreak and make it up to a month; all of the zombies will have broken down past the limit of movement (even though it is cool to think zombies can think, react at 2x normal speed and run flat out at a constant.
Long story short...if your serious about survival get your stockpile of nonperishable food ready (2+ months worth all depending on your family size), something familiar and practical to protect yourself with (meaning if you don't know how to operate and maintain a M-16, SG-550 or a Benelli M4 then it's probably not a great idea to be weilding one), a safe defendable place (with safe exits), a radio and bunker down till the stenches burn out.
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
1. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:07 PM EDT
"As our bodies have physical limitations in life, it is as so in death. The only reason we aren't piles of dirt on the floor is because we are living tissue. the Undead are not living incase you didn't already know this... ... thier bodies do not carry on any of lifes processes, therefore they begin to decompose as a normal dead body would other than the fact that they want to rip you limb from limb. "Hollywood" although entertaining, has yet still neglected to capture the truth. If I was a track runner in life, of coarse i'm going to chase you in the afterlife; unless my body (legs) are damaged to the point my bones, muscle and or tendons can't respond to the activity of running. When you see in movies, a zombie getting knee capped and continuing to persue in sprint form...BS!! knees are knees dead or alive...no knees = NO walking PERIOD. and if a zombie can't reach you, it can't bite you. Bodies go through stages after death... 4 stages of MORTIS, not to mention the unmistakable stench (i've smelled personally all too often; even held a number of actual human corpses/pieces). Any-hoo, If u can survive the initial outbreak and make it up to a month; all of the zombies will have broken down past the limit of movement (even though it is cool to think zombies can think, react at 2x normal speed and run flat out at a constant.
Long story short...if your serious about survival get your stockpile of nonperishable food ready (2+ months worth all depending on your family size), something familiar and practical to protect yourself with (meaning if you don't know how to operate and maintain a M-16, SG-550 or a Benelli M4 then it's probably not a great idea to be weilding one), a safe defendable place (with safe exits), a radio and bunker down till the stenches burn out."
First off welcome to the site. Take some time to visit all the pages and soak in alot of info.

Second, when did you meet your first zombie?
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Madurjafro
Madurjafro
2. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:10 PM EDT
"First off welcome to the site. Take some time to visit all the pages and soak in alot of info.

Second, when did you meet your first zombie? "
Good question, how about if the Zeds are alive, but they have some messed up form of rabies etc, therefore, they wouldn't decompose.

Yet another experiment for when we capture a Zombie
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
3. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:11 PM EDT
Since we have never seen an actual zombie outside of "Hollywood" an assumption as to what they will be like in reality could be deadly. Not all zombies have to be dead, a rager like the type in 28 days/weeks later, would be an example of a living zombie.

Best thing to do is prepare for all of the possible scenarios.
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Madurjafro
Madurjafro
4. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:12 PM EDT
"Since we have never seen an actual zombie outside of "Hollywood" an assumption as to what they will be like in reality could be deadly. Not all zombies have to be dead, a rager like the type in 28 days/weeks later, would be an example of a living zombie.

Best thing to do is prepare for all of the possible scenarios."
Nah, best thing to do is prepare for the worst imaginaly possible scenario, because then, nothing is worse so your already set ;)
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
5. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:14 PM EDT
"Nah, best thing to do is prepare for the worst imaginaly possible scenario, because then, nothing is worse so your already set ;)"
Would being prepared for all not include the worst? lol
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timberrattler
timberrattler
6. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:16 PM EDT
Welcome to the site ZMan45. You're going to like it here. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Zman45
Zman45
7. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:28 PM EDT
@itsMrManCub: in a 28DL/28WL scenario, a body still needs some sort of energy to sustain. Those living ragers didn't feed on thier victims thus gaining no "fuel", i'd give it 2-3 weeks till they burn out.
@timberrattler: thanks man, looking forward to more in depth descusions.
@Madurjafro: worst case scenario is your suckin on your families bones or screaming eyes RED through the streets!
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
8. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:28 PM EDT
"@itsMrManCub: in a 28DL/28WL scenario, a bodie still needs some sort of energy to sustain. Those living ragers didn't feed on thier victims thus gaining no "fuel", i'd give it 2-3 weeks till they burn out.
@timberrattler: thanks man, looking forward to more in depth descusions."
Ok what about the crazies? I mean your putting borders on the disease it seems. Saying that we only have to make it a said time limit could be the worst suggestion, no offense. What if your prepared for 30 days but it last 30 years.

Im not saying it a bad idea...actually yes I am. You cannot put the restraints of reality on something that is not a part of reality...yet.
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Maricely
Maricely
9. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:29 PM EDT
What people are saying Zman, is that we can't predict the future. What you're saying makes sense, but who knows if that's going to be the case? What if a virus or something caused people to become insanely violent, maybe even cannibalistic, but they maintained their intelligence? They could sit down for a meal to nourish themselves, then go out and kill anyone they come across. Around here, we prepare for the worst. Do you find this valuable?    
ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
10. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:35 PM EDT
"What people are saying Zman, is that we can't predict the future. What you're saying makes sense, but who knows if that's going to be the case? What if a virus or something caused people to become insanely violent, maybe even cannibalistic, but they maintained their intelligence? They could sit down for a meal to nourish themselves, then go out and kill anyone they come across. Around here, we prepare for the worst. "
Thanks thats exactly what I was trying to say, sometimes I lack the finesse to put things without coming off blunt. No harm intended Zman!
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Bracket32
Bracket32
11. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 4:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 4:59 PM EDT
You sayt all you have to do is wait. That may make sense for the first generation of zombies but what about the people that they infect later, and then the people that they infect. If the infection spreads fast enough, you could be waiting for it to die off for years. It may never die as long as there are living people to infect. Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
12. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 7:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 7:10 PM EDT
Welcome Zman45!

Check out the thread started by StrykerPez "Real World Zombie Biology".
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Reaper37
Reaper37
13. RE: The reality of things
Jul 30 2010, 7:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2010, 7:51 PM EDT
It is true a standard corpse zombie probably wouldnt last very long, maybe a bit longer then normal due to the virus possibly delaying the decomp process, but it would eventually decay, unless of course they dont decomp at all due to the virus. As for ragers, again it is true, under normal circumstances they wouldnt last long because due to the fact they dont eat their victims, they would die of hunger eventually. The last being the crazie type, this could and would probably be an issue, considering as mentioned they could kill, then eat to renourish, then kill again. Most scenarios would have some what of a time limit, but in that time, alot of damage could be done. Near extinction could occur for humans or animals, then you must remember the survival process after the main threat is gone. We can survive after the large problem, without as much danger in fact, but this is still a big problem. Of course this is all in my opinion, a virus may write a new rule book when it comes to the human anatomy, allowing for things that seem impossible to occur. Do you find this valuable?    
Zman45
Zman45
14. RE: The reality of things
Jul 31 2010, 12:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2010, 12:00 PM EDT
Well I guess I was caught off guard and inside my lil box of the "undead/rager" scenarios. In the case of Romero's Crazies it's a whole new ball game, i mean WATER being the carrier of this plague has a limitless boundaries of infection. How would we purify water safe for use? boil it??And the onset of infection is so suttle it would be a ***** detecting anyone in your camp who is infected; like i said whole different ball game. Oh and side note, you've got the military "me" under orders shooting everything in sight to contain it. Surviving in this future is strictly luck unless you have a virtual butt-ton of financess and prettymuch fortify yourself on an island with auto-aimin turreted weapons, drinking rain water until you go crazy yourself from island fever. BUT thats only my opinion...kinda need a community like this with different points of view to unite for the cause of humanity. Do you find this valuable?    

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