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Happyman0
Happyman0
AR10 versus M14
Aug 19 2010, 1:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2010, 1:55 PM EDT
Well variants of these. More specifically I was thinking the DPMS LR 308 and the M1A (Socom II if I am lucky). I plan to be buying one of these rifles in late October but I cannot figure out which one. The one and only purpose they will serve is in defense of zombies. I am having trouble figuring out which one would be better suited for Z-day. Both have many pros and cons and I would love to get everyones input along with pros and cons that I might of missed.

DPMS LR 308
Pros:
Shorter barrel
More customizable
Greater availability of parts

Cons:
20 (or 25 if your lucky) round magazine
Very expensive magazines

M1A
Pros:
Very accurate
30 round magazine
Cheap magazines

Cons:
Longer
Price
No pistol grip (without expensive kit)

I didn't include weight because they are very close and with modifications the weight could change. If anyone has compared these rifles I would be interested in what they thought of the kick.
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Keyword tags: 308 DPMS gun M1A rifle Socom II weapon
2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
1. RE: AR10 versus M14
Aug 19 2010, 2:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2010, 2:08 PM EDT
I don't think you could go wrong with either weapon, I'd take an M1A but that's only my personal bias speaking. I love the look and feel of the M1/M14 family. I've never shot a .308 AR so I couldn't compare the two for ya. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
2. RE: AR10 versus M14
Aug 19 2010, 3:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 19 2010, 3:53 PM EDT
Agreed, I like the M14/M1A better. I find I shoot better without the pistol grip.

Also, it was proven in combat (however breifly.)
Anyone who thinks the M14 is a bad weapon should ask the pile of dead Somalis that went up against Randy Shughart.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
3. RE: AR10 versus M14
Sep 16 2010, 6:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2010, 6:35 PM EDT
"Well variants of these. More specifically I was thinking the DPMS LR 308 and the M1A (Socom II if I am lucky). I plan to be buying one of these rifles in late October but I cannot figure out which one. The one and only purpose they will serve is in defense of zombies. I am having trouble figuring out which one would be better suited for Z-day. Both have many pros and cons and I would love to get everyones input along with pros and cons that I might of missed.

DPMS LR 308
Pros:
Shorter barrel
More customizable
Greater availability of parts

Cons:
20 (or 25 if your lucky) round magazine
Very expensive magazines

M1A
Pros:
Very accurate
30 round magazine
Cheap magazines

Cons:
Longer
Price
No pistol grip (without expensive kit)

I didn't include weight because they are very close and with modifications the weight could change. If anyone has compared these rifles I would be interested in what they thought of the kick. "
If you've handled either one of them then go with that one, personally id go with the AR-10 because i've handled AR-15s and the AR-15 is derived from the AR-10and therefore fairly close, i have handled an M1A but i was young and i couldnt figure out the way the magazine went into the gun
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Wolf147
Wolf147
4. RE: AR10 versus M14
Sep 16 2010, 7:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2010, 7:54 PM EDT
"If you've handled either one of them then go with that one, personally id go with the AR-10 because i've handled AR-15s and the AR-15 is derived from the AR-10and therefore fairly close, i have handled an M1A but i was young and i couldnt figure out the way the magazine went into the gun"
I agree with you i would go with the AR-10 simply because I'm used to the "AR" family, I have never fired an M1A, but i would love to get one some day.
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Filadog
Filadog
5. RE: AR10 versus M14
Sep 16 2010, 7:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2010, 7:58 PM EDT
This is what I have....

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2300199/aview/1284679184198_MVC-001F.JPG

It's a semi auto M14 built using all original TRW M14 parts on an International Harvester M1 reciever. Small number of these were basicaly custom built back in the early 1970s I have been told. The stock is a US military E2 with fold down foregrip. I have a couple of regular M14 stocks too but I keep the E2 on it. Have lots of mags and ammo for it
Is an accurate and very dependable rifle, you know I don't think I ever had a failure to feed or fire with it and when ammo was cheap I shot it alot
.....and It would be way down on my list of " Z Day" rifles I would want to take with me.
Not only would I rather have my AR or AK but I would even pick my SKS over it I think

I look at something like this as a very specialised big heavy rifle that is best suited for long range open country shooting and I just don't see me having to do much or any of that at least not enough to justify carring it and it's heavy ammo or picking it over a lighter better handling gun.
There is a very good reason that the AR replaced them and thats because for probably over 95% of what you need a defensive rifle for the AR will work as well or better.
To be honest I don't have much experance with an AR10 but imagine everything I said about the M14 would be the same with it
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John_234
John_234
6. RE: AR10 versus M14
Sep 16 2010, 11:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2010, 11:38 PM EDT
The M1A normally comes with a 20 round mag, so they're even on mag cap. I think the barrel length is pretty moot, too, since you can buy versions at the minimum allowed length (SOCOM II).

I prefer the M1A for a number of reasons. It's functionally great, easy to take down, and it squeezes accuracy out of that .308. It's probably one or the most accurate out of the box autoloaders for the price.

Additionally, there is no "standard" 7.62 AR mag type, but there is only one M1A mag - which might make it more common.

All considered, M1A parts aren't all that uncommon, and one of the best parts of the rifle is that it's allowed in almost every state, unlike ARs, and it's very nonaggressive and unassuming out of the box.
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demsmine
demsmine
7. RE: AR10 versus M14
Sep 17 2010, 2:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2010, 2:20 AM EDT
I don't want no teenage queen, I just want my m14.

But seeing how i don't own ether rifle I can only go with how I felt firing them the few times that I have. Nevermind, on second thought I've only ever fired an Ar15 and not an Ar10. So just go with what ever platform feels better for you.
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