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Simplysurvival
Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:12 AM EDT
Well I've been thinking about why everyone is going to board up their house or g and live in a block of flat because If you check out my zombie survival plan number 1 then you'll notice I'm going to leave the city.

Once leaving the city You are in a zombie free area for miles until the next big population so you dont need to heavily fortify your self and while living in the country wepons and ammunition are abundant i mean think of the british countryside surrounded by trees and field after field of animals and crops.

what does this suggest?

sharpened sticks bows and arrows ?? abundant amounts of wood ! they may not be the strongest weapon in the world but one strike to the head and a zombie dies.

As for food : berries, animals ( rabbits, deer, cow's etc) even for vegetarians theirs alot of food like i just said berries, treesfruits and loads more !!

As for Baracades who needs em? in the country side their are way too many places to hide however if you find your self a small forest what are the chances of a zombie finding you ? almost 0, you could proberly start anew comunity in thewoodland until you are strong enough to take back a small village or a town district.

Let me know your thoughts.
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
1. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:36 AM EDT
Hmmm, to live hunter gatherer like you'd have to be awfully accustomed to such things already. =*_*= Hunter gatherer lifestyles are commonly thought to be low stress, low amount of time spent acquiring food and awfully easygoing. But the drawback and reason why it didn't last forever is that hunter gatherer groups need to remain small and have about two miles of unspoiled land each, can't remember the exact group size but it wasn't very large.

Horticulturalist societies plant but don't really care much for their crops. They let the things grow naturally but propagate the seeds far and wide and keep coming back for harvests. Of course, they can't defend their food source and need a well understood boundary with other groups.

When the apocalypse happens, there's going to be a lot of people trying to get whatever they can from wherever they can. The countryside could be striped bare quickly. =*_*=

Living off the land usually involves utilizing every food source possible, tree barks, roots, shoots, leaves, seeds, berries, sometimes even dirt. =^_^= A lot more of your food animals becomes essential nutrition. Meat, fat, internal organs, blood. Insects are very frequently considered a source of food as well. So unless you're already accustomed to eating cat tails, grasshoppers, grubs (a true delicacy) and acorns, its best to avoid such things until you know very well what you're doing. Study indigenous foodways to your area =^_^= (Chances are it involved a lot of farming though) but also keep in mind...

I've heard it said that more hikers die from misidentified plant foods than any single other cause. =*_*=

Farming is a way for more people to live off of less land, even though its viewed by primitive people as being a very sucky way of getting sustenance. =-_-= Its generally safer too because you always know what you're getting. =^_^=
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Simplysurvival
2. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:40 AM EDT
I see what your trying to say but from the other posts I have read many people want to go raiding supermarkets etc.
I only posted this up because I have worked in woodlands for years doing bush craft etc so I know my way around plants very well.

I know this is only me but im sure people could use their primitive instincts to work out whats good to eat and whats not.
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
3. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:47 AM EDT
Thats awesome, more power to you then =^_^= As for advising others to use their instincts... no =*_*= Just don't, human beings don't inherently know poison from food, that was a learned trait that people have either learned or haven't. People really do select wrongly, so unless you know for sure, what something is and how to eat it, just avoid it.

I'm sure you have a lot of knowledge and experience in wilderness survival, and you know, the more I think about it the more rare of a trait that is. You might find your chosen area hunted to near extinction but you'll probably be able to find tons of edible plants and insects that most people would pass up due to lack of knowledge. =^_^=

I could see that plan being pulled off =^_^= Do have a few partners though, to stay awake during sleeping and keep watch, being surprised by zombies wouldn't be any good. =*_*=
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Simplysurvival
4. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:51 AM EDT
I certainly do :~] my good friend Matthew lives down the road from me and he helped to devise the plan :~] He hasn't got the knowledge because I was brought up from the country and he cam here a few years ago from the city.

You have a point =@#*ALL PEOPLE DO NOT EAT ANYTHING WITHOUT SOLELY KNOWING ITS SAFE TO EAT*#@=

:~] just thought I would add that.
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
5. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:53 AM EDT
Cool cool! Its great to have a close rl friend to work on this stuff with! =^__^= That's pretty neat, I'm a city-slicker myself. =^_^= Do you find this valuable?    

Simplysurvival
6. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 5 2010, 9:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 5 2010, 9:57 AM EDT
Awsome :~] Do you find this valuable?    

iwillkill101
7. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 10 2010, 11:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 10 2010, 11:17 PM EDT
Ok you and pretty much everyone else in your town will have the idea of let get out of the city so u will get stuck in traffic and most probably get torn to shreds by the oncoming zombie waves the best thing u can to is stay in the city and bored yourself up in your garage or in a single room with food to last 3 to 4 days then most of the death and destruction will be over. so good try but guess again Do you find this valuable?    

Simplysurvival
8. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 11 2010, 12:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 11 2010, 12:32 PM EDT
But the idea is to either make your way through a forest or on foot into the country side. Do you find this valuable?    
1FutureMarine1
1FutureMarine1
9. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 11 2010, 12:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 11 2010, 12:35 PM EDT
To live hunter gather would also requires you to understand animal migration routes and behaviors. Both before shtf and how they will react after. If Humanities empire falls when shtf then animals could migrate to our old cities. Do you find this valuable?    
FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
10. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 11 2010, 1:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 11 2010, 1:13 PM EDT
Ss, you are so going to enjoy the worms dried on the fireside that will provide you with your mineral needs and scrambling in the rain through wet bracken looking for shoots tender enough to eat!
Seriously though, it feels great to know you could pull that off if you had to and there are many courses to teach you much faster and safer than you could learn on your own.
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BigLoki
BigLoki
11. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 11 2010, 6:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 11 2010, 6:12 PM EDT
I see the appeal to exiting the cities and surviving off the land if you have the skill. I am quite accustomed to either scenario, as I'm sure a lot of people are. To me what it boils down to is: how you intend to live.

If you don't mind living out however it happens in solitude, or with a very small group, then the woods, and rural areas would be the way to go. You could be self sustaining out there with little difficulty, and quite possibly no run-ins with the undead.

In a city there will be plentiful resources available, and with some calculated risk you could survive quite well. Also you stand a much better chance of finding/joining other survivors. As for myself, this option is better to me. I have very little desire to ride out my days by myself, wondering why I didn't just end it. To me the point of surviving is keeping those close to me safe, and ultimately attempting to rebuild a bit of our way of life.

Simple decision for most one way or the other. Either way you could stay alive.
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Simplysurvival
12. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 12 2010, 3:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 12 2010, 3:58 AM EDT
I got to agree with BigLoki on this because I feel it depends on what sort of person you are like me I don't mind fending on my own whereas some people may need the support of others. Do you find this valuable?    
holydiver238
holydiver238
13. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Sep 26 2010, 5:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 26 2010, 5:30 AM EDT
I like your Idea on starting a small community and taking back a small village, but think. In order to protect that community, you need to make a wall or a barricade so that zombies don't get in. So really barricades are very important. Thats the only flaw I have seen. How ever, it seems like you could possibly do this. Do you find this valuable?    
worldglobe
worldglobe
14. RE: Andy's Simple ways
Oct 7 2010, 1:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 7 2010, 1:42 PM EDT
I beg your pardon? Sharpened sticks as arrows and bows? No offence but I think you don't know the exact depth of the situtation.

You're in England I take it? England, with about 200 people crammed into every square km? I've been to England, I've seen the country side muiltiple times - I'm not just basing things off of wikipedia. The country side is hardly abandoned. You'd be swarmed with zeds or insane survivors before you can say 'Mommy save me'

Abundant crops? Try making bread from grain when you dont have an oven, mill or any of that stuff. Going to eat raw maize or corn? You'll have to fi you're considering this a possibility, you'll be too busy fending off zombies, or else a fire would attract them and you'll be fending them off in a few minutes anyways.
Livestock? You mean those creatures that are fenced in and easy pickings for zombies? I have a feeling they might be gone in a few days.

You mention wooden bows and arrows? No offense, but for somebody who is experienced in woodcraft, you dont seem to know much about this part. Wood suitable in bows needs to be seasoned. Seasoning means waiting around up to years at a time with little defence, and if you choose to skip this step you'll probably end up with a low power bow lasting only a small while. You'll need to start seasoning your wood immediatley.
I doubt many people will be able to hit a hit a moving target so small as a head with a bow. Or even manage to penetrate the skull with something so,,, primeval as a sharpened stick.

I honestly mean no offense, and I know what I've said could be seen as trolling, but honestly, I think this is a bit of a stuipid plan.
My sources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_population_density
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