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The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 11:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 11:52 AM EDT
I'm in a Catholic country and it occurred to me that the Catholics probably have a better chance of making it through zday, for several reasons,

1) old catholic churches are built like fortresses, even earthquakes cannot destroy them completely. Entrances and exits are kept to a minimum, and are readily fortified, if they are not already. Many churches have these characteristics, but in a Catholic country, A) everybody knows where the church is, and B) they go there all the time anyway, and especially when bad **** goes down, if not for a sanctuary then at least to pray.

2) Catholics have a very rich system of demonology, and a very straightforward idea of how to confront them, ie, whoop day assas! When zombies start rising from the graves, Catholics will be less off guard than most, they have a belief system which can incorporate zombies and swiftly respond with righteous vengeance. Buddhists, in this as in most regards, are ******. They would prolly talk to the zzzzs, try to intuit which Path of Suffering they were trapped in, and generally look on them as an embodiment of some form of unconsciousness. Buddhists would definitely try not to become zombies themselves, which is their puny contribution to the survival of mankind, but would prolly not take up a crossbow or quarterstaff to kill the buggers outside of selfdefense.

3) Catholics countries are, generally speaking poor as fack and drunk as shat, which is to say, these people know how to hunker down and ride out a rough situation, most of them have been doing it all their lives. In a siege situation I would prefer a room full of poor, dumb, drunk Catholics to the most prepared, educated, and soberthinking atheists/agnostics in the world.

I think prots are doubly-facked on zday as their whole religion is based off of a rejection of something else. Cats don't have much of anything special but when zday comes they are more likely to act not prevaricate. Bye.
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DonovanRichter
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1. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:14 PM EDT
I might not be a protestant but I have spent too much time with too many of them and from what I've seen... no, they really don't focus on rejecting Catholicism. They have their own religion and they're quite militaristic compared to any other religious group I've seen. Most are in favor of guns and the military as well as proselytizing regardless of who they wish would shut up and get out of their way.

I think most of the protestants out here would fare quite well actually. The ones I've seen have a very strong sense of community and a sense of purpose that isn't afraid to use force. But then again, no two people are alike and there are five bujillion different forms of protestantism, probably two or three for each adherent =^_~=

Most protestants don't feel as though they are actively rejecting Catholicism but are seeking out the original meaning of the passages. As for the strength of catholic churches.. hmm, some are, but others aren't so sturdy. However, most prod mega-churches are very poorly defended and most of the little ones are as well so I'll give you the architecture. But even then, how would you support a congregation once they were safely inside?

I also have to point out that some sects of Buddhism loved killing, just look at the samurai and their practice killings. Granted such things don't go on today but still, I could see most people who want to be pacifists dropping the subject under the idea that they aren't killing people. But maybe you're right, who knows.

I'm more of an occultist than a real atheist and some even charge me with being a pantheist or a deist. I think labels are silly myself but I must admit, my best friend and co-planner is an agnostic which is really just an atheist with a little a.

I won't say what religion is best, but maybe certain qualities would help.
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2WheeledSpeed
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2. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:20 PM EDT
Two stereotyped views of religion, lovely (And that's coming from a member of one of the aforementioned religions).

I'm waiting for a Mod to come in here and shut this down.
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uksurvival
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3. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:22 PM EDT
"I'm in a Catholic country and it occurred to me that the Catholics probably have a better chance of making it through zday, for several reasons,

1) old catholic churches are built like fortresses, even earthquakes cannot destroy them completely. Entrances and exits are kept to a minimum, and are readily fortified, if they are not already. Many churches have these characteristics, but in a Catholic country, A) everybody knows where the church is, and B) they go there all the time anyway, and especially when bad **** goes down, if not for a sanctuary then at least to pray.

2) Catholics have a very rich system of demonology, and a very straightforward idea of how to confront them, ie, whoop day assas! When zombies start rising from the graves, Catholics will be less off guard than most, they have a belief system which can incorporate zombies and swiftly respond with righteous vengeance. Buddhists, in this as in most regards, are ******. They would prolly talk to the zzzzs, try to intuit which Path of Suffering they were trapped in, and generally look on them as an embodiment of some form of unconsciousness. Buddhists would definitely try not to become zombies themselves, which is their puny contribution to the survival of mankind, but would prolly not take up a crossbow or quarterstaff to kill the buggers outside of selfdefense.

3) Catholics countries are, generally speaking poor as fack and drunk as shat, which is to say, these people know how to hunker down and ride out a rough situation, most of them have been doing it all their lives. In a siege situation I would prefer a room full of poor, dumb, drunk Catholics to the most prepared, educated, and soberthinking atheists/agnostics in the world.

I think prots are doubly-facked on zday as their whole religion is based off of a rejection of something else. Cats don't have much of anything special but when zday comes they are more likely to act not prevaricate. Bye."
1,whats stopping non-catholics being in your church?
2,Shaolin Buddhist monks?
3,drunk people+needing to be alert and on guard = ?
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DonovanRichter
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4. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:31 PM EDT
EDIT: Oh, mine was offensive? =*_*= And why shut it down, it'll burn itself out?

I think being able to feel meaning in your own life and the lives of others is important for survival, even if you can't explain why you feel that way, cuz well, truly apathetic people, though rare, don't seem very likely in my mind.

I think feeling a sense of control over your environment is also important as such feelings can lead to apathy.

I figure that a religious outlook that fosters the ability to protect oneself and others with force, and sees something holy in self defense would be good.

I think a religion that focuses on providing for ones needs due to a close connection with nature would also be good. Farming would be very important in a post apocalyptic world if its still possible.

I would say that a religion that fosters intolerance for different groups would only cause problems in settlements and settlements are how you survive for more than a few months. Judgmental attitudes just aren't good.

I feel that a religion that fosters a belief that everything will be taken care of is another pretty bad idea.

Religions that focus on maintaining health can also be beneficial.

But you know, all this aside, I would want the Mormons in my corner. Most of them own guns, are very nice, keep years worth stocks of food, and have a strong sense of community.... I'd just have to keep some things about myself hidden is all. =^_~=
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FrankLeeDeRainged
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5. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:27 PM EDT
The best religion for Z-Day survival is Voodoo silly! Do you find this valuable?    
John_234
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6. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:38 PM EDT
Just letting you know, as soon as the screaming starts, this is getting locked down.

Personally? Religion by nature is a totally personal matter. Not all protestants reject everything, not all Catholics are going to be arms wide for a zed poc (in fact, most people are going to be the exact opposite...) and not all Buddhists are passive and perfect.
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Maricely
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7. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 12:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 12:54 PM EDT
1. If everyone goes to one location, it's not going to be safe (think walmart)

2. Catholics who haven't prepared beforehand are going to be just as caught off guard as anyone else.

3. Choosing dumb, drunk people over prepared, educated people is ill-advised.

Try not to insult any more religions.
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DonovanRichter
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8. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 1:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 1:16 PM EDT
Understood. =^_^= But yeah, for while I'm out in Vegas I would try to hook up with the Mormons though in all seriousness. I know the parts of town where most of them live near their temple. Gun ownership seems to be pretty well advocated and its part of their official doctrine to maintain a years supply of food in their houses. Plus I have contacts with them.

Once I'm back home though things'll be a different story. The Mormon church isn't nearly as large of an organization up there and I have access to my own element and people. If time allowed I would send my parents over to some relatives in the country, but failing that I would use their already existent small church social structure to get them into a little group while I stayed over at my best friend's house.

WHat I'm really saying is that one organization isn't better than another, but if you think about it, what a member gets out of said organization is what
s important. Also, my parents could survive with a protestant organization during an apocalypse, I've had so many problems with said organization in non-stress times that it'd be ludicrous for me to try and join them in high stress times. The best religion is the one you know and can fit in with as well as get something useful out of.

Sorry I couldn't make one full post, character limit and distractions and all. =^_~=
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SterlingCooper
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9. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 1:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 1:17 PM EDT
In this thread: An elitist catholic makes sweeping generalizations about 1-2 billion people, then tries to troll by bashing fellow believers in Christ.

OP, I'll bite. I hope the zombie apocalypse hits Boston first, so a city full of anti-gun catholics get chewed up by zeds. Then when it gets to Texas and the gun toting protestants put up a worthy defense, I hope I'll be around to say I told you so.
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Filadog
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10. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 1:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 1:49 PM EDT
I think "Fire and Brimstone" Fundamental Christian........
....Been waiting for and looking forward to the end of the world.
... Strong "Us" and "Them" belief with a belief probably that Gods will is to punish others that don't believe the same as them
...Strong belief in Demons and Demon possesnsion
....Lots of gun ownership and many are self sufficent country folk used to hard ship

Point could be made for extreme Charismatic Catholics and Santerias to I think

I'm Southern Baptist with a touch a Druidism and a pinch of Hoodo that collects Catholic Icons
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anninhilator
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11. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 1:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 1:56 PM EDT
umm none of this so called "benefits" count as people have said b4
also im afraid that some religious people could think that killing zombies is bad, then pray whole week to God to make zombies be people again.
Religion doesnt make you good in something in any way
this thread is FAIL
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Carnack
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12. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:16 PM EDT
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Filadog
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13. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:31 PM EDT
"Religion doesnt make you good in something in any way
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I think a true beliefe in a Religion has a potential to make you a better fighter since you believe you are fighting for a just cause and if killed you are going to a better place. Combine that with a feeling you are fighting for a "group"

While you might not believe that religion doesn't make you a better lets say , Suicide Bomber....I think a fanatical belief that you will go to paradise if killed that way probably does...Maybe why Agnostic Unitarians make such lousy ones.

Not just in extreme cases like Suicide Bombers but I think even ordinary people do better when they believe God is on thier side or that they are fighting for something more important then just them

I think it is just Human nature to need direction like this esp. in hard times....I would be surprised after Z day if a major return of many back to God didn't happen
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anninhilator
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14. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:47 PM EDT
" I think a true beliefe in a Religion has a potential to make you a better fighter since you believe you are fighting for a just cause and if killed you are going to a better place. Combine that with a feeling you are fighting for a "group"

While you might not believe that religion doesn't make you a better lets say , Suicide Bomber....I think a fanatical belief that you will go to paradise if killed that way probably does...Maybe why Agnostic Unitarians make such lousy ones.

Not just in extreme cases like Suicide Bombers but I think even ordinary people do better when they believe God is on thier side or that they are fighting for something more important then just them

I think it is just Human nature to need direction like this esp. in hard times....I would be surprised after Z day if a major return of many back to God didn't happen"
suicide bombers are superior only in stupidityXD

noone i know is better in anything than me because he belives in God:S
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PontusSushi
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15. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:51 PM EDT
It's part of human nature to find shelter or strenght in religion, especially during hard times. And if you find strenght in that to keep going, I respect you for that no matter what kind of religion you have...

Personally, I'm more afraid of fanatical cults popping out like mushrooms. For example that woman in the movie "The Mist" from Stephen King...
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Carnack
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16. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:52 PM EDT
*takes off noninterventionist hat*

A fighter who is willing to die for a cause will not run. Will not quit. And will key off a suicide bob with a smile in some cases.

Say what you will about them they are dangerous.

And anninhilator you'd be suprised at how good some of us are due to religious beliefs.

When you work for a higher being earthly threats seem a lot less threatening. A perpetual bright side.
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PedroAsani
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17. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:58 PM EDT
I'll counterpoint this, then lock it.

1) If everyone panics and runs to the church, then who is going to provide food, water and waste facilities? Because a lot of people barricaded into a place with nothing to eat is a short road to cannibalism.

2) Really? Some might see this as the Rapture. And interfering with the Rapture is reason to kill.

3) You want drunk people instead of sober people? You are aware that this will increase the chance of "friendly fire" due to poor co-ordination and judgement?

The ideas in your post show poor judgement. Posting it is even worse judgement. You make horrific, sweeping statements, and everyone who read them died a little inside. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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PedroAsani
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18. RE: The best religion for Z-Day survival
Sep 8 2010, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 2:59 PM EDT
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