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usmcboyer
usmcboyer
Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 2:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 2:40 AM EDT
So this is a forum based on people who have the common idea that something major is going to happen in the world, in our lifetime, that is going to massively change life as we know it. Whether that be some sort of a zombie / viral outbreak or pandemic, a string of natural disasters, possibly something man made like a terrorist attack or nuclear war. The fear of this is the massive changes that will take place and how suited we are to adapt to this change, that is why we plan, discuss, and purchase equipment that will assist us when / if this does happen.

This is my point - humans have survived for a very long time, through some of the harshest conditions that the world could throw at us (man made and natural disasters).

Does anyone here think that there will ever be an end to mankind (like completely, not life as we know it - that is bound to change).

Also with the amount of weapons and ammunition in the world, and those who know how to use it and willing to use it and ready to use it if something such as a zombie outbreak occurs, I seriously can not imagine that within about 2-3 years all zombies would be eliminated. I think that even if it spread like wildfire, the pockets of survivors would be able to take pop shots one at a time and dwindle the zombie population much faster than zombies would infect the living.

Basically - zombie outbreak will be several years of head-shot-only target practice for the gun toting, trigger happy militatry and enthusiest out there and returning life to normal would not take all that long. Give me food and water, a couple weapons and a good vantage point and I will shoot a couple thousand zombies a day. Multiply that by thousands or millions of survivers and I think it wont be that long until life began to get back to normal.

Maybe I am just being enthusastic?

Post your thoughts!
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toxic_shock
toxic_shock
1. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 2:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 2:55 AM EDT
I would like to think so too. I am most certainly not an expert in survival, but I will do everything I can to survive. In reality, I don't think I will make it, but I have confidence in the human race. Humans aren't going away, but maybe back in time. Do you find this valuable?    
usmcboyer
usmcboyer
2. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 3:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 3:17 AM EDT
"I would like to think so too. I am most certainly not an expert in survival, but I will do everything I can to survive. In reality, I don't think I will make it, but I have confidence in the human race. Humans aren't going away, but maybe back in time."
Damn dude, have a little faith. Might sound corny but read up on survival type stuff. Read forums, look at how-to videos on youtube, even watch shows on discovery and stuff, you will learn. Buy yourself some basic camping supplies and go survive for a weekend with what you learned. It is not only incredibly fun, but when the day comes that you might NEED to know how to start a fire or how to catch fish, you will be happy you did (plus you will already have the equipment necessary to do it)
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toxic_shock
toxic_shock
3. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 3:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 3:33 AM EDT
I have a decent bug out bag, plenty of guns, and a pretty impressive penis, (GTA IV, anyone?) but what i lack is experience. I can tough things out and I can do without, but the main thing i lack is food.

I will agree, if you are crazy as I am, the apocalyapse could be incredibly fun.
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1FutureMarine1
1FutureMarine1
4. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 3:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 3:50 AM EDT
Nope, we could never truly die. We have people that survived the god damn holocaust. While INSIDE the concentration camps. And those were trying to wipe out one religous faith other undesirables yet they couldn't do it. Maybe other animals will go extinct but not us. It would take many things to go wrong for us to be in a position to be wiped out. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Carnack
Carnack
5. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 3:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 3:58 AM EDT
"Nope, we could never truly die. We have people that survived the god damn holocaust. While INSIDE the concentration camps. And those were trying to wipe out one religous faith other undesirables yet they couldn't do it. Maybe other animals will go extinct but not us. It would take many things to go wrong for us to be in a position to be wiped out."
Not really. A single rock at the right trajectory, an itchy trigger finger, or even one bad seal can wipe out the beast known as man fairly quickly.
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usmcboyer
usmcboyer
6. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 3:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 3:58 AM EDT
"Nope, we could never truly die. We have people that survived the god damn holocaust. While INSIDE the concentration camps. And those were trying to wipe out one religous faith other undesirables yet they couldn't do it. Maybe other animals will go extinct but not us. It would take many things to go wrong for us to be in a position to be wiped out."
I agree, I think that it would take a combination of natural AND man made events to really do us in, which obviously can not be planned. I say the only thing that would really get us would be if there was some cataclismic meteor impact, but we have the technology to detect one and likely alter its course before it nails us, so I think that we will be alright lol
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anninhilator
anninhilator
7. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 4:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 4:06 AM EDT
i have confidence in human race surviving

however, i wish me and my family survive too^^
thats why i prepare
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usmcboyer
usmcboyer
8. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 4:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 4:08 AM EDT
"Not really. A single rock at the right trajectory, an itchy trigger finger, or even one bad seal can wipe out the beast known as man fairly quickly."
Itchy trigger finger will certainly do it. Please oh please dont get the itch Iran or North Korea! Like I mentioned I don't think the rock will do it, we can stop that
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usmcboyer
usmcboyer
9. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 4:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 4:10 AM EDT
"i have confidence in human race surviving

however, i wish me and my family survive too^^
thats why i prepare"
Yeah, I think that to be an extremist about survival is some what off the wall, but to be thoroughly prepared and ready for anything is the way to be. Most here would agree and that is why this site is interesting to check out peoples ideas. I tend to stick to the more realistic threads than the far fetched "what if there is some mutant zombie with 6 heads running in your door" kind of posts lol
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1FutureMarine1
1FutureMarine1
10. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 4:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 4:37 AM EDT
"Not really. A single rock at the right trajectory, an itchy trigger finger, or even one bad seal can wipe out the beast known as man fairly quickly."
meh. Maybe. But soemany people have tried to just kill a single race that their culture hates. And 90% they can't even do that.
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Carnack
Carnack
11. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 4:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 4:56 AM EDT
"Itchy trigger finger will certainly do it. Please oh please dont get the itch Iran or North Korea! Like I mentioned I don't think the rock will do it, we can stop that"
Orly? I hope blowing it up ain't your solution cause that only works in movies?

FM: I'd say tripping off a few nukes would do it.
Not talking trigger in the gun sense but in a Trigger the Nuclear Launch Sequence sense.
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usmcboyer
usmcboyer
12. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 5:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 5:18 AM EDT
"Orly? I hope blowing it up ain't your solution cause that only works in movies?

FM: I'd say tripping off a few nukes would do it.
Not talking trigger in the gun sense but in a Trigger the Nuclear Launch Sequence sense.
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Have you ever tried to nuke a asteroid? I havent so I can not tell you for a fact that that would work or not. I am assuming that you have not either. Thankfully the world is full of people much smarter than you and I

And yes, obviously a trigger finger on a gun is not going to end man kind, I realize this.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
13. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 7:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 7:22 AM EDT
Why do I believe an apocolyptic event is possible?

Because if you look at mother earth as a living breathing organism you would see us as the parasites we are. We delve beneath her skin and use up her resources and we sicken her with our waste. We feed off of her like a parasite feeds off its host.

Someday her immune system will fight back in the most un-seen way imaginable and we'll be knocked back and hopefully we'll change our ways and learn to be less of a parasite.
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Survivor15
Survivor15
14. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 9 2010, 11:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2010, 11:49 PM EDT
"Why do I believe an apocolyptic event is possible?

Because if you look at mother earth as a living breathing organism you would see us as the parasites we are. We delve beneath her skin and use up her resources and we sicken her with our waste. We feed off of her like a parasite feeds off its host.

Someday her immune system will fight back in the most un-seen way imaginable and we'll be knocked back and hopefully we'll change our ways and learn to be less of a parasite."
Well said.
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Duton1
Duton1
15. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 10 2010, 12:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 10 2010, 12:27 AM EDT
I'll give you one example. Dinosaurs. How bout another? The mass extinction after the Paleozoic era. All things have their golden age. and their life spans are about maybe 100 million years, maybe 200. It is said that at the end of every era, there is a mass extinction.

Humans came into power during this era, (Whose name I forgot) So it's perfectly reasonable to expect a doomsday scenario.

We've thought about it several times. By water, by fire, by cold, by nuclear bombs, volcanic eruptions. What's to stop a zombie apocalypse?

No one knows the true "zombie" But there are many versions. Many schools of thought. each one of these increases the chance of it happening.

By this I mean let's take the A-Bomb as an example. Man discovered rocks killed enemies. Need bigger bang. Arrows. Not good enough. Gunpowder and guns. Want louder boom. Explosive ordinance. Which was thought in sizes big and small by many people. I'm sure if you told a caveman that there would be things that blew up, they wouldn't believe you. Until one school of thought out of the many that existed discovered the potential of the A-Bomb. Any one of them could've discovered it and there were PLENTY of them.

Sorry for dragging off like that. Thanks for reading.

EDIT: One of the many reasons I believe zombies are real.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
16. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 10 2010, 12:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 10 2010, 12:56 AM EDT
Paleontologists have discovered something called a 'mass die off' that seems to occur at regular intervals. The really bizarre thing about MDO's is the don't have the same cause twice. One time it could be a super volcano, the next a meteorite, nevertheless at regular periods the earth seems to shrug off a huge variety of species. There's an extremely controversial theory that suggests the cause of the next (and imminent) MDO is us! Do you find this valuable?    
RUPREPARED
RUPREPARED
17. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 10 2010, 2:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 12 2010, 9:33 PM EDT
The optimist in me says: Humans have crawled their way out of the oceans, fallen out of trees, we can fly we, we wage war, build our homes, we raise our familys and we always thrive no matter what the conditions because we are determaned to survive.

The Pesimsist in me says: in a SHTF situation many almost domesticated homosapians will turn into complete animals, unable to physiaclly or mentally cope with the idea of life as they know it changing in anyway.
No laws to hold them back, No strong sense of morals, No worring what the neighbours will think with all belife thrown out the window be it Relligious, Moral or Social will cause them to do anything.

The Realist In me KNOWS: That we have no idea what can or will happen.

The Sceptic in me Says: That with the world in Its current state cannot be overcome with a single SHTF senerio and that the likeyhood of a military or goverment intervention is high.

The Believer in me says: In an ever expanding universe and a world as large and diverse as ours that their is things that we don't understand and that anthing could happen at anytime.

and The survivalist in me just says:

Prepare.

Edit: poor spelling
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usmcboyer
usmcboyer
18. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 10 2010, 2:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 10 2010, 2:52 AM EDT
To everyone who wrote on here... damn good stuff. Everyone has good points of view and I can see many arguments. Hopefully we get some more good posts Do you find this valuable?    
demsmine
demsmine
19. RE: Think about it.. really...
Sep 10 2010, 5:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 10 2010, 5:04 AM EDT
The one thing about man is it's ability to change it's enviroment to suite it's needs. Look how much we as a living creatures have done with computers in a relativly short amount of time. It's funny to think that 200 years from now, people will look at our technology like we look at the medieval era. I think if man doesn't destroy itself within the course of the next hundred and fifty years, we will have the capability to thrive, not just on the earth, but on other planets, or on for lack of a better term space ships. Do you find this valuable?    
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