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Avtomat_Kalashnikova
Avtomat_Kalashnikova
Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 6:44 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 9:59 PM EST
Tell me your views and try to convince me of them.
EDIT: No, wait don't. Please.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
1. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 7:16 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 7:16 AM EST
"Tell me your views and try to convince me of them."
Hmm dangerous ground but I'll go for it.

For post zday? Military.
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NACHO.DYNAMYTE
NACHO.DYNAMYTE
2. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 7:30 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 7:30 AM EST
military is good but I'd go for a fanily and friends style after zed's dye out but err i dont really know what im talking about Do you find this valuable?    
SGTGerman
SGTGerman
3. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 7:43 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 7:43 AM EST
"military is good but I'd go for a fanily and friends style after zed's dye out but err i dont really know what im talking about"
Don't get the worng idea. Maybe I should have use "Patriotism" instead. People usually read the post and immediately thing "Fascist" and "Loss of freedom" etc.

Thats not what its all about. In fact, it would be counter productive.
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
4. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 8:27 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 8:27 AM EST
Those who choose security over freedom deserve neither. Do you find this valuable?    
SGTGerman
SGTGerman
5. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 8:30 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 8:30 AM EST
"Those who choose security over freedom deserve neither."
That makes no sense.

United we stand - divided we fall
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
6. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 9:06 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 9:09 AM EST
"That makes no sense.

United we stand - divided we fall"
Well Ben Franklin must thought otherwise when he said it.

United? Look out the window at the common folk. We are not united. We still segregate. We show no love for each other. If the apoc did happen I for one would be proud to see politics overthrown. Maybe just maybe good people, honest people will survive and be able to help us guide ourselves into a better future.

Divided we fall...pfft we have been divided since the days of the civil war.(You cannot attest to this since your from UK I presume) Heck we were divided as mankind even before that. So please tell me when this great fall will happen because all I see is sh*t sticking together forming just an even greater ball of crap.

Oh and good morning to everyone.
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possumblaster
possumblaster
7. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 9:16 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 9:16 AM EST
"Those who choose security over freedom deserve neither."
This is true. Many men have died to ensure that we have a free country to live in. There are now a lot of people attacking our freedom. It's like a constant beat-down from liberals telling us we are politically incorrect and insensitive. People cave after a while and instate laws that restrict our freedoms.

And by the way OP, they don't allow political talk on this site so be prepared for this thread to get locked.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
8. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 9:16 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 9:16 AM EST
"Well Ben Franklin must thought otherwise when he said it.

United? Look out the window at the common folk. We are not united. We still segregate. We show no love for each other. If the apoc did happen I for one would be proud to see politics overthrown. Maybe just maybe good people, honest people will survive and be able to help us guide ourselves into a better future.

Divided we fall...pfft we have been divided since the days of the civil war.(You cannot attest to this since your from UK I presume) Heck we were divided as mankind even before that. So please tell me when this great fall will happen because all I see is sh*t sticking together forming just an even greater ball of crap.

Oh and good morning to everyone."
Exactly.

A society that stands together is the best kind of society. No, we're not united and yes we are divided. My aim would be to change that, hence my idea. It is rather fascist to the untrained eye however here's the beauty of it - people agree with it.

Common Consensus - the basic principle of all societies.

Btw yes I'm from the UK, yes we did have a civil war and thankgod the monarchy lost.
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possumblaster
possumblaster
9. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 9:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 9:20 AM EST
"Exactly.

A society that stands together is the best kind of society. No, we're not united and yes we are divided. My aim would be to change that, hence my idea. It is rather fascist to the untrained eye however here's the beauty of it - people agree with it.

Common Consensus - the basic principle of all societies.

Btw yes I'm from the UK, yes we did have a civil war and thankgod the monarchy lost. "
Forcing people to "unite" will only push them further away from each other. Look at what happened when 0bama tried to unite the Republicans and the Democrats. Both sides now literally hate each other.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
10. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 9:36 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 9:36 AM EST
"Forcing people to "unite" will only push them further away from each other. Look at what happened when 0bama tried to unite the Republicans and the Democrats. Both sides now literally hate each other."
*Sigh*

Not sure why I have to repeat this so much, but here it goes again...

In my society, you're either with us or not at all. If you dont want to live as nationals then you don't. Simple.

Yes, you would be taught from as early as possible to go by moral values and the golden rule - Treat others as you'd like them to treat you" but if you don't like it or your a complete tool then there's the door.

Not sure where you got the "forcing people" idea from?
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Maricely
Maricely
11. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 11:30 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 11:30 AM EST
Don't let this get out of hand. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
LJ126
LJ126
12. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 12:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 1:38 PM EST
Indeed - while this isn't formally restricted from the site, it is a touchy topic and one that we prefer avoiding. If this gets out of hand, the thread will get shut down and appropriate corrective action will be taken against violators...

Consider that a warning to anyone who participates in this thread.

Avtomat_Kalashnikova, before opening or responding to any new threads, please familiarize yourself with the ZSDW Code of Conduct. Some of your responses in other threads could be taken as borderline abusive, and I hate issuing bans to folks because they aren't aware of the rules...
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NACHO.DYNAMYTE
NACHO.DYNAMYTE
13. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 3:54 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 3:54 PM EST
Has any one watched life after armageddon documentary - watch it on youtube. The last few parts are about post apocalypse society - everyone has an equal part in soceity Do you find this valuable?    
Whybother08
Whybother08
14. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 4:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 4:07 PM EST
The reason why I don't like militaristic societies:

The people that want them, more times than not, are military personell.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
15. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 5:34 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 5:34 PM EST
"The reason why I don't like militaristic societies:

The people that want them, more times than not, are military personell."
That's probably because we've seen or can see the benifit of such a system.

And, I can't seem to stress this enough, if everyone agrees with it, i.e. they are nationalist thinkers aswell then its not a bad thing. I hate it when people read my posts and think "Omg this guy just wants to take our freedoms so I wont bother to read anymore of it."

Forcing people into such a society is wrong and is pointless. The reason why I do not believe in any form of conscription is because to do my job I personally believe you should want to do it.

Unhappy soldiers are bad soldiers. Same goes for citizens.
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DeltaBravo1294
DeltaBravo1294
16. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 6:03 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 6:03 PM EST
A republic, let the people elect whom they think is the best among them to lead. Do you find this valuable?    
AnimateBlade
AnimateBlade
17. RE: Political views?
Nov 13 2010, 8:04 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2010, 8:04 PM EST
I'll go with politically incorrect. Do you find this valuable?    
NACHO.DYNAMYTE
NACHO.DYNAMYTE
18. RE: Political views?
Nov 14 2010, 4:47 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 14 2010, 4:47 AM EST
I think were thinking a bit too much as if this WILL happen, when it wont, well maybe Do you find this valuable?    
Avtomat_Kalashnikova
Avtomat_Kalashnikova
19. RE: Political views?
Nov 26 2010, 7:53 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 9:58 PM EST
"This is true. Many men have died to ensure that we have a free country to live in. There are now a lot of people attacking our freedom. It's like a constant beat-down from liberals telling us we are politically incorrect and insensitive. People cave after a while and instate laws that restrict our freedoms.

And by the way OP, they don't allow political talk on this site so be prepared for this thread to get locked."
I don't even know why I made this thread anymore.
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