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S.Pro.Ukr |
Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 1:38 AM EST
This is for everyone who actually knows a lot about guns and all: If you've got a chain-link fence, or an architectural fence (most of which aren't any good BTW, there's one surrounding my apartment complex with bars I could bend w/my bare hands...), and a bullet hits it, what happens? Does it come back at you, does it keep going like nothing happened, does it fly to the side, or what? And what about the fragments that will fly off because of this? Do you find this valuable?
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cas13f |
1. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 1:41 AM EST
For the chain link fence, chances are you'll get some deflection, but not a straight-up richochet. It'll punch through the bar it hits and probably put out a little bit of frag from that.As for the architectural fencing, it depends on the round and the quality of fence. As to where it ricochets, it depends on where you hit the bar. Do you find this valuable? |
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AnimateBlade |
3. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 2:31 AM EST
Very much depends on the round. High velocity, hard rounds will penetrate more, possibly to the point of coming out cleanly on the other side, but it is very likely that the angle of flight will be affected.Fragmenting or soft rounds will ricochet much easier. I've heard handgun rounds will bounce around off bones in a person, making a real mess. Do you find this valuable? |
2WheeledSpeed |
4. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 7:59 AM EST
I wouldn't really freak out about those fences, or richochets in general. Are they possible? Yup, and you always need to be aware of your surroundings and what might happen if you start slinging rounds. Not only can bullets ricochet and come back at you or friendlies, they can penetrate stuff and keep going for quite a ways.But in some situations, you can't wait for your target to move in front of a safe backstop to start shooting. Do you find this valuable? |
jdi35 |
5. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 10:45 AM EST
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luckiest ba*d ever.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc&feature=related apparently, they were using either an iron plate as a target or an iron bullet. its not clear which but my money's on the plate Do you find this valuable? |
JezuzKrist |
6. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 10:50 AM EST
"luckiest ba*d ever.....Just goes to show that even Darwin misses sometime.... Do you find this valuable? |
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2WheeledSpeed |
7. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 10:51 AM EST
"luckiest ba*d ever.....I bet he sold that rifle the very next day... Do you find this valuable? |
Oakspar77777 |
8. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 11:16 AM EST
Those alum fences (chain link or bar) are soft as butter - a tap will throw your aim off, but will not make it ricci-off target by much. You need not worry much about a bullet coming back at you - if you are at any distance the angle of impact would have to be perfect, the force would have to be perfect, and the round would have to hold up and maintain enough force - difficult to do intentionally at close range. Rics are really most dangerous to people down field, as the greater the angle of turn the greater the force absorbed by the impact. Most ricochet injuries come from hitting the ground (rock, cement, etc) and it bouncing up and coming down with force somewhere in the line of fire. Note that riot cops used to intentional shoot bird shot into the pavement in front of crowds. The ricochet widened the spread and absorbed enough force to make the ammo less damaging. Do you find this valuable? |
mbartelsm |
9. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 5:16 PM EST
"luckiest ba*d ever.....i saw that some time ago, he is the luckiest guy ever (hit his earmuffs) Do you find this valuable? |
Filadog |
10. RE: Ricochets?
Nov 14 2010, 5:53 PM EST
I was shooting a flintlock Blunderbus I had once at a target about 30 ft away that was nailed to a backstop of logs.This was a modern repo that didn't have a rebated chamber in the large bore like it should of and becasue of that it didn't have much power. I was shooting a bunch of 30 cal. round balls and after a few shots one of them bounced off a log and flew back and hit me right in the forehead!Hurt some but no real damage because it didn't have much power and we got a laugh out of it...hit me in the eye might have been different I used to have an original Sharps Business rifle in 45 70, I'd set on my back porch and shoot at a milk jug about 75 yards away that I had setting on my yard, about 15 yds behind it I had a dirt beem to act as a backstop. Big cornfield behind it One day some friends came over that wanted to shoot the sharps so set up a jug and a fellow shot at it.. The cornfield now didn't have any corn and was just dry dirt, when he shot I saw a puff of dirt about 200 yds out and then another one about another 100 where the slug had ricocheted over the beem and skipped across the dirt field..Shot it again and same thing..Nothing out there but still kind of scary..I built the beem higher and didn't shoot at any more targets setting on the ground I've seen .22s bounce like that on water many times Do you find this valuable? |
