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BetterThanADeadMan
american 180
Nov 27 2010, 7:41 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 7:41 PM EST
One machine gun you guys should consider is the American 180 it is a 22lr or.22 Short Magnum it's a pretty good submachine gun that usally has a 200 round magizine and has almost no recoil I know the cartridge is not all that powerful but theres not much that can withstand 20 or so rounds Do you find this valuable?    
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womule2005
womule2005
1. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 7:50 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 7:50 PM EST
i dont want to start another .22 flame thread here, cause i love the .22LR but its not sufficient for zombies.

it is a great survival rifle, and youre right. i dont care if it is such a small caliber, i dont ever want to see 20 rounds of .22 flying at me! Do you find this valuable?    

zombiepunisher
2. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 7:53 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 7:53 PM EST
Centipede?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
3. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 9:23 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 9:23 PM EST
What's a .22 short magnum? Do you find this valuable?    
AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
4. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 10:15 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 10:15 PM EST
"i dont want to start another .22 flame thread here, cause i love the .22LR but its not sufficient for zombies."
I completely disagree. .22 LR is fine for zombies, considering you know how to shoot.

The American 180 is an interesting gun, but full auto is over rated. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
sprintingmaniac
sprintingmaniac
5. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 11:11 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 11:11 PM EST
Hmmm,would that gun be hard to aim being that it has a pan magazine? Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
6. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 11:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 11:33 PM EST
"What's a .22 short magnum?"
its like a CCI Stinger (i think) its the length of an LR but the power of a Magnum Do you find this valuable?    
AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
7. RE: american 180
Nov 27 2010, 11:53 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 27 2010, 11:53 PM EST
"its the length of an LR but the power of a Magnum"
How is that possible? Does it used a more volatile powder or something? Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
8. RE: american 180
Nov 28 2010, 1:24 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 28 2010, 1:26 AM EST
"How is that possible? Does it used a more volatile powder or something?"
I'm not sure exactly? well I'm not sure if it has the same power as a Magnum or what but it is more powerful than the LR


Here's what I found.....22 ILARCO
Notes: The .22 ILARCO was designed in 1987 as an experimental round for the American-180 rimfire submachinegun. It is basically a hot-loaded .22 Long Rifle round, with the heavier bullet of the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire round and a strengthened .22 Long Rifle case with much more propellant. This was done to increase the power of the American-180, which could not chamber the longer .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire round, without having to redesign the action and magazines. The power is almost the same as that of the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire. The .22 ILARCO round never went into large-scale production, and the sale of the American-180 patent ensured this. The .22 ILARCO is now a collector’s item.
Other Names: .22 Short Magnum Rimfire, .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Short Do you find this valuable?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
9. RE: american 180
Dec 2 2010, 1:02 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 1:02 AM EST
Can you actually get this gun and the ammo?

If not, I wouldn't suggest it. Do you find this valuable?    
ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
10. RE: american 180
Dec 2 2010, 1:04 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 1:04 AM EST
"I'm not sure exactly? well I'm not sure if it has the same power as a Magnum or what but it is more powerful than the LR


Here's what I found.....22 ILARCO
Notes: The .22 ILARCO was designed in 1987 as an experimental round for the American-180 rimfire submachinegun. It is basically a hot-loaded .22 Long Rifle round, with the heavier bullet of the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire round and a strengthened .22 Long Rifle case with much more propellant. This was done to increase the power of the American-180, which could not chamber the longer .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire round, without having to redesign the action and magazines. The power is almost the same as that of the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire. The .22 ILARCO round never went into large-scale production, and the sale of the American-180 patent ensured this. The .22 ILARCO is now a collector’s item.
Other Names: .22 Short Magnum Rimfire, .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Short"
Do they come in boxes of 550 for less than 20 bucks???? Do you find this valuable?    
sprintingmaniac
sprintingmaniac
11. RE: american 180
Dec 2 2010, 1:14 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 1:14 AM EST
The standard varient is .22LR with a 220 round pan magazine and fires 1200rpm.
It is classified as a submachinegun so should be hard to get a hold of, so in my opinion it isn't worth it. Do you find this valuable?    
AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
12. RE: american 180
Dec 2 2010, 3:03 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 3:03 AM EST
This is something along the lines of what I'm going for post apoc. I have all the means and knowledge to make an effective suppressor as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbjXvH7xJA Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
13. RE: american 180
Dec 2 2010, 7:49 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 7:52 PM EST
"Can you actually get this gun and the ammo?

If not, I wouldn't suggest it."
gun-maybe..........ammo..yes..it can use .22 LR Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
14. RE: american 180
Dec 2 2010, 7:52 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2010, 7:52 PM EST
"Do they come in boxes of 550 for less than 20 bucks????"
no idea about .22 ILARCO but considering it can use .22 LR....yes it can come in boxes of 550 for less than $20.......... Do you find this valuable?