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ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 3:36 PM EST
the military prepares our troops for the very physically exhausting burden of gear and ammo. you should to. pack all your gear and ammo and practice hiking miles,... you will need the endurance this requires.
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Whybother08 |
1. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 3:37 PM EST
My eyes have been opened.
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John_234 |
2. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 3:50 PM EST
lol, WB.Depends on how much ammo you want to carry - which goes into how often you expect to fight. Most people carry about a hundred rounds between all their ready to go guns. That is general 1+2 for sidearm and a handful or rifle mags or shotgun shells, with extra in the pack. Heavy ammo is a liability if you're in the ass-end of nowhere when a .22 could kept you fed for longer and more efficiently than some 9mm sub machine gun (just for a drastic comparison.) Do you find this valuable? |
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Whybother08 |
3. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 3:59 PM EST
You can make a BOB that weighs 15-30 pounds by simply cutting down on the ammo. Trust me, you probably aren't going to have a *major* run in with 'dem gub'mint, Chinese commandos, zombies, etc. at least until you can get to your BOL.90% of the people who say they're going to bug out with 500 rounds of this, and 250 rounds of that are kidding themselves. Because that can easily be over 50 pounds of pure superfluous ammo, not including their 15-pound accessorized rifle, their 20 pounds of MREs, and whatever else they want to think they can lug around all day. Do you find this valuable? |
Carnack |
4. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 4:12 PM EST
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And that's not accounting for size. A 500 count container a shotshells (none exist but I have seen the boxes the bulk come in) would easily become your pack. Nothing else would fit. Do you find this valuable? |
P0LaND |
5. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 4:22 PM EST
Man. There goes my missile launcher idea. =[
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Flashlight50 |
6. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 4:23 PM EST
It depends on the guns and ammunition you are planning for. I don't see myself or others who live in more urban areas going out with our BOB's loaded, and with our rifles slung over our shoulders and going for a 5 mile hike down the road. Okay yes I could of got a way with it during deer season, but right now I would expect the police to pull up and ask me a lot of questions. I do take hikes with my BOB and use what's in it, when I go camping/hiking, and I take it on walk/runs of 5K twice a week. I simulate the extra weight with dumbbell weights for my ammunition and 3 foot piece of 2 inch PVC pipe that's filled with cement. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Whybother08 |
7. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 4:33 PM EST
"...and 3 foot piece of 2 inch PVC pipe that's filled with cement. "That's a look. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Flashlight50 |
8. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 4:51 PM EST
I strap it to the side of my pack, the pvc pipe weighs close to what my Colt AR-15 does with a loaded mag. I also will load more than my normal BOB's weight in it, and I wear a set of 10 pound ankle weights and a 5 pound set of wrist weights. That way I am use to carrying much more than my normal BOB and weapon load. In case when it happens I decide to throw a few extra boxes of ammo. or extra MRE's in. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
trophykiller |
9. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 4:56 PM EST
Which is why the .22 gets the TK seal of approval. Bless you, senor winchester.
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redcomrad |
10. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 6:23 PM EST
I think all the ammo i would want would be 2X 60 round bandoleers and a fully loaded 1903 Springfield that would only be about 16-25 pounds or so right I'm comfortable with carrying about half of my weight for a few hours on end because I've been training by doing a lot of hiking and walking with my dumbbells in my backpack [i weigh about 130 pounds] but i can carry my whole weight but i just get exhausted more quickly.
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Mr_Jumbles |
11. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 9:41 PM EST
"I strap it to the side of my pack, the pvc pipe weighs close to what my Colt AR-15 does with a loaded mag.always my view point on working out especially since (well when i was physically able to do it) my working out was centered around kickboxing and muaythai if you can punch and kick and run fast while wearing ankle and wrist weights you become a freaking speed freak once you take em off its a pretty insane feeling like you feel so ungodly fast lol Do you find this valuable? |
jdi35 |
12. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 15 2011, 10:07 PM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RO05xmUC-sa bit of a reality check for those who want to carry a lot of ammo. Do you find this valuable? |
chitoryu12 |
13. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 16 2011, 2:36 AM EST
The last time I carried ammo was a plastic shopping bag with 60 .300 Win Mag rounds in it. Wasn't epically heavy, but it had enough weight that you would notice it if you dropped the boxes in your pack or bandoleer.
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Oakspar77777 |
14. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 16 2011, 9:22 AM EST
For comparison purposes:I have a box of 250 - 2 3/4" 00Buck shot and a box of 5,000 - .22LR rounds. Both boxes weigh about the same, and they both weigh about as much as a cinder-block. The .22LR box is about the size of a loaf of sandwich bread and the 00Buck box is about twice that size. I've did A LOT of backpacking in my youth, and I would not want to carry either of those blocks of ammo with me. Ask any packer - there is a reason we cut the handles off of our toothbrushes. EVERY OUNCE COUNTS! Every ounce you carry is a pound you lift every 16 paces. That's around 200 pounds per mile extra for each OUNCE. That is a ton and a half in lifting each mile for each pound you put on a pack. That might not seem like much when a 200lb man is lifting 300 tones each mile he walks - but the weight and the calories quickly add up. Not to mention, you have pots, pans, clothes, towels, food, water, water purification, gun cleaning supplies, tent/shelter, bedding, and sanitation to carry as well. Do you find this valuable? |
Filadog |
15. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 16 2011, 9:31 AM EST
Im been thnking about maybe sometype of cart to help carry my gearI've seen a few people with these cool fold up wagons with canvas sides.Light weight and compact when folded but still able to carry a good bit Another thought would be to adapt one of those jogging strollers to carry your gear. These things have larger wheels and I think could even be used off road some If you ever saw the movie or read the book " The Road" remember they used shoping carts to carry thier supplies, and of couse many homeless people today use them too Do you find this valuable? |
JunkCollector |
16. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 16 2011, 10:58 AM EST
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I have a heavy duty garden cart, basically a buffed up red wagon. I bought it to carry my parents medical and survival supplies before they passed. Now I have plans on my profile for if I bug out on foot, to carry extra supplies, ammunition, and guns in it. They pull easily, and with the big tires they can handle most terrain. I also left room for my BOB, so that I don't have to carry it on my back.
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DonovanRichter |
17. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 16 2011, 8:45 PM EST
Mheheheh, yeah, gear can be pretty heavy. =^_^=First time I tried on my various belt pouches and such I decided that everything wouldn't fit and still allow me to do many of my melee moves, so I started cutting down. =^_^= Nowadays, I tend to carry my satchel/purse/man bag with me most places, which has a lot of my more compact gear in it already. But I do sometimes go hiking with less conspicuous weighty things than weapons in my backpack. =^_^= Do you find this valuable? |
cj1977 |
18. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 16 2011, 9:20 PM EST
"the military prepares our troops for the very physically exhausting burden of gear and ammo. you should to. pack all your gear and ammo and practice hiking miles,... you will need the endurance this requires. "I am not totally sure how much my ballistic vest weighs but I carry over 200 rounds of 5.56mm and over 40 rounds of 9mm. Along with the 40mm rounds and everything things else, I am guess I am carry over 50 lbs at least. In the begining it was heavy and its still heavy 10 months later. Do you find this valuable? |
Abu_Fulan |
19. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 2:38 AM EST
500 rounds of .22 or 100 12 gauge shells... Professional-grade hiker's pack or wheeled garden cart... I get the feeling some of us have lost track of the point of a bug out bag. Mine is no more than what it will require for me to survive for 3-5 days, and for me that does not call for a full combat load of 5.56 with grenades, flares and sidearm ammo. Do you find this valuable? |
