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TheEmperorsChosen |
20. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 5:30 AM EST
"I am not totally sure how much my ballistic vest weighs but I carry over 200 rounds of 5.56mm and over 40 rounds of 9mm. Along with the 40mm rounds and everything things else, I am guess I am carry over 50 lbs at least. In the begining it was heavy and its still heavy 10 months later."a ballistic vest with plates can weigh in at over 80 pounds with ESAPI side plates and all the bells and whistles attached. Do you find this valuable? |
cas13f |
21. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 5:55 AM EST
"a ballistic vest with plates can weigh in at over 80 pounds with ESAPI side plates and all the bells and whistles attached."I don't know about the IOTV, but my IBA with the extra side plates runs 30s, maybe mid 40s. Sucked, but I did manage to run two miles. Do you find this valuable? |
DonovanRichter |
22. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 9:40 AM EST
I hear 50-60 pounds is the usual limit for how much a conditioned combatant should carry. =^_^= SO that sounds like a good combination cj.
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P0LaND |
23. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 10:46 AM EST
"500 rounds of .22 or 100 12 gauge shells... Professional-grade hiker's pack or wheeled garden cart...Yeah. I was wondering the same thing. But maybe we've switched topic from BOB to after the initial 3-5 days. Quick question though. I was considering using a hiker's pack for my BOB anyway. I figured it was made to last, and could carry everything that I needed in a relatively organized way. Problems? Do you find this valuable? |
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TheEmperorsChosen |
24. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 3:15 PM EST
"I don't know about the IOTV, but my IBA with the extra side plates runs 30s, maybe mid 40s. Sucked, but I did manage to run two miles."13f vs 11b im not sure what your units SOP is regarding vest configuration but in my unit we had to have all of our mag pouches,grenade pouches, radio, everything attached to our vests. and we had IOTVS but even when we all still had the IBA's fully loaded out the ass with a combat load of ammo,IFAK etc etc etc it ran just a little over 80. i might add that i was a SAW gunner so that might attribute why mine was so heavy, but for the most part that was generally about right for most of the company. Do you find this valuable? |
cj1977 |
25. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 3:21 PM EST
"a ballistic vest with plates can weigh in at over 80 pounds with ESAPI side plates and all the bells and whistles attached."I have the IOTV with the plates of course and the ESAPI plates as well. I never weighed, and I did not want to know exactly how much I was carring. It's better not to know sometimes. Do you find this valuable? |
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cj1977 |
26. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 17 2011, 3:25 PM EST
"a ballistic vest with plates can weigh in at over 80 pounds with ESAPI side plates and all the bells and whistles attached."I have the IOTV with the plates of course and the ESAPI side plates as well. I never weighed, and I did not want to know exactly how much I was carring. It's better not to know sometimes. Do you find this valuable? |
dragonvilla4 |
27. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 18 2011, 2:13 AM EST
"the military prepares our troops for the very physically exhausting burden of gear and ammo. you should to. pack all your gear and ammo and practice hiking miles,... you will need the endurance this requires. "why do you think i have a mule hes going to carry all my s*** while i protect him with my M1A the remainder of my stuff will be in my backpack. Do you find this valuable? |
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cas13f |
28. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 18 2011, 4:04 AM EST
"13f vs 11bYes, because it totally matters I'm not Infantry when I'm ATTACHED to units, not being within a field artillery unit *rolleyes*. I'm attached to the 1st of the 25th infantry, SBCT. I have an IBA because I haven't gone to RFI yet. They're giving us EVERYTHING in different patterns, again, because we're going to Afghanistan. IOTV, new FLC, multicams, new boots, the works. We have a GENERAL unit SOP, and our sections have more specific SOPs within it. We are allowed to use our FLCs as long as they are set up the same way and don't interfere with proper wear of the ballistic vest or any packs. Your combat load of ammo, being a SAW gunner, is a good twice or more than mine. I'm only running a standard Rifleman setup FLC here, plus IFAC and hydration system. Do you find this valuable? |
Whybother08 |
29. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 18 2011, 8:23 AM EST
"why do you think i have a mule hes going to carry all my s*** while i protect him with my M1A the remainder of my stuff will be in my backpack."I thought you had a fully-automatic M14? *eyeroll* And why can't you just carry your own crap? Because, you know, he's going to need to carry his OWN stuff. Oh, wait, he's your mule inferior, he doesn't get anything besides the job to take care of your ass, right. Do you find this valuable? |
John_234 |
30. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 18 2011, 8:35 AM EST
"I thought you had a fully-automatic M14?Like I said before, putting all your crap on one person, vehicle, anything has a tendency to screw you in the ass in the worst time possible. Murphy has a love affair with these types. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Whybother08 |
31. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 18 2011, 8:45 AM EST
"Like I said before, putting all your crap on one person, vehicle, anything has a tendency to screw you in the ass in the worst time possible. Murphy has a love affair with these types."I'm not saying don't split things like food and medical supplies between your group to carry, but he's saying it like 'Heh...carry this 20-pound can of ammo for me...haha...' Do you find this valuable? |
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TheEmperorsChosen |
32. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 1:30 PM EST
"Yes, because it totally matters I'm not Infantry when I'm ATTACHED to units, not being within a field artillery unit *rolleyes*. I'm attached to the 1st of the 25th infantry, SBCT.so 7 mags of a full 30. maybe a few additional and 2 grenade pouches. IFAK, Radio. sidearm if issued and 2 spare mags. plus the few odds and ends of personal gear like knives,etc. am i close? Do you find this valuable? |
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cas13f |
33. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 4:24 PM EST
"so 7 mags of a full 30. maybe a few additional and 2 grenade pouches. IFAK, Radio. sidearm if issued and 2 spare mags. plus the few odds and ends of personal gear like knives,etc. am i close?"I also have 'nocs and a VIPR. All I can say for it id that I'm glad it's not a GV/LLD. Do you find this valuable? |
logic102 |
34. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 6:08 PM EST
hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?Because there are a LOT of people that are being caught out pretending to be ex-servicemen from the benefits and for the thrills. They learn the lingo are make up a story as to why the aren’t in the service any more Heck there are websites were you can pay for fake military credentials. Also Because you all seem to be say that you ex-military which means you ether old, got dishonorably discharged, wounded so bad you couldn’t serve any more, or are a mental case. But if you are or did serve don't take this the wrong way, Just curios seeing as most of the people on this sight are appear to be under 25 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
jdi35 |
35. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 6:51 PM EST
"hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?not all discharges are dishonorable you know, some are uncategorized. right now, i'm 22. i went into the air force 6 months out of high school @ 18, went through basic training and tech school. after tech training the air force had that fiasco with the accidental shipping of nuke warheads and they were cutting back on personnel, me being one of them. i'm not a head case, nor did i do anything wrong. i spent less than 6 months in the service which gave me an Entry level separation or an Uncategorized discharge which is on my discharge papers. and i still have my tax return from the AF stating how much i earned if you want proof. Do you find this valuable? |
SteelDawn2011 |
36. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 7:03 PM EST
I can prove I was an NCO in the US ARMY, but on with this subject of ammo, best thing for all is to weigh your ammo- I box of .22 -550 rds weigh what- 1 box of 5rd of 12 slugs or buckshot weigh what, then calculate how much your carrying so on.. you get the gisk right.. as for weight weigh each item of your BOB and then your LBE or TACT-VEST with ammo or clips with ammo and weapons, and train with up to that weight when hiking, so on. alot of us don't make time for things like this and this could be our down fall in the long run. staying fit is necessary to run to get to where your BOL, and run with load on u from the Z's. weighing your gear and weapons will give you an idea of what and how much your carrying .
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Filadog |
37. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 7:31 PM EST
"hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?I was in the Boy Scouts.....I still get post trauma Flash Backs ! If I was on foot walking I want my Ruger 10 /22 and a brick of 500 rounds. I think alot of these guys that will be packing large amounts of heavy ammo would soon wish they brought water or food instead. Can't compare it to what people in the military supposedly carry today because I think most times they are not to far from supply lines that give them pretty quick what they need so they can carry more ammo for fire fights etc. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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cas13f |
38. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 7:38 PM EST
"hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?Well, if you still have your .mil internet address, you can email me at cody.spradlin AT us.army.mil. For some reason, they don't accept email that is not from .mil addresses. Found that out when I had to email an itinerary for leave to my platoon sergeant and Expedia wasn't able to send it, then tried with my personal address to a failure. HAD to use my .mil address. I do have a photocopy of my ID, but I can't exactly just give that away. Considering how strict they are with us for MEAL CARDS, an ID is a negative. There are a wide variety of people serving in the military under the age of 25. Mostly, the only people I know OVER 25 are senior NCOs. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
ItsMrManCub |
39. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 7:39 PM EST
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"hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?I never served in the military and have never pretended to. I do not know if you are just trying to pick a fight or what but I do not recommend talking negatively about the ones who have served and protected my rights. I hope that your truthfully just asking a simple question and have no negative feelings backing it. Its pretty easy to call the ones who are fake...simply put they are idiots. Do you find this valuable? |
