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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
40. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 7:45 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2011, 7:47 PM EST
"hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?

Because there are a LOT of people that are being caught out pretending to be ex-servicemen from the benefits and for the thrills. They learn the lingo are make up a story as to why the aren’t in the service any more Heck there are websites were you can pay for fake military credentials.

Also Because you all seem to be say that you ex-military which means you ether old, got dishonorably discharged, wounded so bad you couldn’t serve any more, or are a mental case.

But if you are or did serve don't take this the wrong way, Just curios seeing as most of the people on this sight are appear to be under 25
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Your heart is in the right place, So I forgive....
Jdi is right though, I served in 1998 - 1999 in the marine corps... I was in the 2nd Tank Battalion Marine detachment in Fort Knox KY, I served for 6mo, was waiting on a cycle out from training to regular duty and was in a car wreck. I got an uncatagorized discharge for medical issues resulting. I'm certainly not mental (please ignore my pic as I say that). I'm only 31, so I'm not old. It was peacetime, I was not needed as I had a 6mo recovery time ahead of me and they were cutting back the military for budget reasons (thank you Clinton).

You gotta be a little more careful when you say these things... To say that every ex-military person is one of those things is a bit brash. I have friends who simply served their time by the time they were 22 or 23 and just went home. Honorable... one had a purple heart. So thanks, but let the military types guard their own issues... we usuallly know if someone is full of it.
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
41. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 7:45 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2011, 7:45 PM EST
I would carry ammo in whatever I have available. I am not going to load myself up with 1000 rounds but then again I am not going to war I am just surviving. I can carry a sh!t load of .22 LR in a sock and stick it in my pocket. I have done the same on many of squirrel hunts and it works fine. I have a couple fanny packs that hold a couple box of shotgun shells and a pair of binoculars and a flashlight or two. Basically just plan out what your doing. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SteelDawn2011
SteelDawn2011
42. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 10:25 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2011, 10:25 PM EST
And I am 47 years old.. Been around the block and then some. Do you find this valuable?    
P0LaND
P0LaND
43. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 19 2011, 10:53 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2011, 10:53 PM EST
"I would carry ammo in whatever I have available. I am not going to load myself up with 1000 rounds but then again I am not going to war I am just surviving. I can carry a sh!t load of .22 LR in a sock and stick it in my pocket. I have done the same on many of squirrel hunts and it works fine. I have a couple fanny packs that hold a couple box of shotgun shells and a pair of binoculars and a flashlight or two. Basically just plan out what your doing."
Haha, that sock might make a good melee weapon if you get into some sort of CQ jam.
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logic102
logic102
44. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 7:08 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 7:08 AM EST
Hey sorry people I must have missed honorable discharge, again sorry.
And I did not mean to offend anyone who served their country I have no problem with the military I just hate the people the pretend to have served their country just for the benefits or for some perverse sense of pleasure
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cj1977
cj1977
45. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 7:54 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 7:54 AM EST
"Yes, because it totally matters I'm not Infantry when I'm ATTACHED to units, not being within a field artillery unit *rolleyes*. I'm attached to the 1st of the 25th infantry, SBCT.

I have an IBA because I haven't gone to RFI yet. They're giving us EVERYTHING in different patterns, again, because we're going to Afghanistan. IOTV, new FLC, multicams, new boots, the works.
We have a GENERAL unit SOP, and our sections have more specific SOPs within it. We are allowed to use our FLCs as long as they are set up the same way and don't interfere with proper wear of the ballistic vest or any packs.
Your combat load of ammo, being a SAW gunner, is a good twice or more than mine. I'm only running a standard Rifleman setup FLC here, plus IFAC and hydration system."
I hate the IBA, and I have the IOTV as well of which is what I wear currently. With the IBA, and a camel back I had lots of pain in my lower back. With a camel back on the IOTV plus all of my ammo, radio, NVGs, IFAK and 20 million other items I don't have any back pain at all. Before I deployed and when I first entered Afghanistan, we did lots of PT which help to condition my body to carry loads of stuff.
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cj1977
cj1977
46. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 7:57 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 7:57 AM EST
"I would carry ammo in whatever I have available. I am not going to load myself up with 1000 rounds but then again I am not going to war I am just surviving. I can carry a sh!t load of .22 LR in a sock and stick it in my pocket. I have done the same on many of squirrel hunts and it works fine. I have a couple fanny packs that hold a couple box of shotgun shells and a pair of binoculars and a flashlight or two. Basically just plan out what your doing."
Hopefully in a post apocalyptic zombie environment, you won't have to wear a ballistic vest. Wearing some sort of vest with many pockets and pouches to carry ammo would be much less weight than wearing a ballistic vest plus all the goodies attached.
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cas13f
cas13f
47. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 4:10 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 4:10 PM EST
"Hopefully in a post apocalyptic zombie environment, you won't have to wear a ballistic vest. Wearing some sort of vest with many pockets and pouches to carry ammo would be much less weight than wearing a ballistic vest plus all the goodies attached."
Yep, I could go with my FLC all day and then some. Throw the vest in under it, I'm ****** pretty quick.
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mysticblakes
mysticblakes
48. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 8:26 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 8:26 PM EST
Another startlingly obvious reason for 'case-less' ammunition... 8-) 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Whybother08
Whybother08
49. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 9:14 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 9:14 PM EST
"Another startlingly obvious reason for 'case-less' ammunition... 8-)"
You mean that stuff that blew up in the gun in trial runs? No thank you.
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cas13f
cas13f
50. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 9:19 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 9:19 PM EST
They do have polymer cased ammunition that supposedly fixed the old problems (obviously, melting) Do you find this valuable?    
mysticblakes
mysticblakes
51. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 10:13 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 10:13 PM EST
"You mean that stuff that blew up in the gun in trial runs? No thank you."
To what 'stuff' do you base your comment on? I have never fired an example, but there is plenty of evidence for a stable, frugal alternative. If SG1 can adopt the Tech, then ZG1 will defo follow suit! 8-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11
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mysticblakes
mysticblakes
52. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 20 2011, 10:26 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2011, 10:26 PM EST
"To what 'stuff' do you base your comment on? I have never fired an example, but there is plenty of evidence for a stable, frugal alternative. If SG1 can adopt the Tech, then ZG1 will defo follow suit! 8-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11"
Also, there is a popular book where a 'loader' type person is integral to the success of company/battalion style fire on effect. This could be implemented on an individual or medium scale engagement.
The most relevant contemporary example is a sniper and spotter team. This could be easily adapted to the 'spotter' carrying ammo to supplement the shooters fire-power...
There is no 'I' in Team! 8-)
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TheEmperorsChosen
TheEmperorsChosen
53. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 22 2011, 2:23 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2011, 2:23 AM EST
"hmm don't take this the wrong way please, but can any of you prove that you actually served in the military?

Because there are a LOT of people that are being caught out pretending to be ex-servicemen from the benefits and for the thrills. They learn the lingo are make up a story as to why the aren’t in the service any more Heck there are websites were you can pay for fake military credentials.

Also Because you all seem to be say that you ex-military which means you ether old, got dishonorably discharged, wounded so bad you couldn’t serve any more, or are a mental case.

But if you are or did serve don't take this the wrong way, Just curios seeing as most of the people on this sight are appear to be under 25
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i have a hole in the aeortic valve of my heart due to an explosion. would you like to me tell you the story of how it happened? do you want me to tell you all the gory details and make it all exciting? there are many ways one can become ex military besides the reasons you stated above. you dont have to be old,dishonorably discharged or chaptered to get out of the military or become a "former marine" threw that one in there for all of you wild eyed devil dogs out there. i was with the 10th mountain infantry division, 2nd brigade, 2-14 infantry division charlie company 3rd platoon. dirty thirty as we were called. there are very very real ways to tell a fake from a genuine. what do you expect us to do? post pictures of our DD214s? and of course its going to be taken the wrong way. i understand your concern but if there are any doubts in your mind about any one of our credentials then this would be the kind of thing you message the folks in question about. this is not the first time this has come up. oh and its ILLEGAL to buy military credentials, its considered a federal offense.
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TheEmperorsChosen
TheEmperorsChosen
54. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 22 2011, 2:25 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2011, 2:25 AM EST
"I also have 'nocs and a VIPR. All I can say for it id that I'm glad it's not a GV/LLD."
what? no kitchen sink?
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qttroassi
55. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Jan 22 2011, 8:04 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2011, 8:04 PM EST
I would be very carefull, everything changes if you start running with weight on your back. I was running for over a year with a Rothco special forces assault pack that I modified for my smaller body and to make it look more like a regular backpack. I would run with about 20 pounds of personal belongings and books-and eventially in april of 2010 I tore the inside meniscus in my left knee. Before that I had ran a 5k running race in 19:24 wearing boots jeans and a T-shirt and a time of 16:49 with track flats. I now yearn for the day that I could afford $5600 surgery to repair it. just be carefull if you run with weight ... Do you find this valuable?    
Ethan1992
Ethan1992
56. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 8 2011, 7:38 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 7:38 AM EST
"always my view point on working out
especially since (well when i was physically able to do it) my working out was centered around kickboxing and muaythai
if you can punch and kick and run fast while wearing ankle and wrist weights
you become a freaking speed freak once you take em off
its a pretty insane feeling like you feel so ungodly fast lol"
Definetly sounds like something i have to add to my workouts or whenever i head down the MMA gym. Would the same work for medium distance running like 400m or so?

Personally I don't think i'd be hefting more then 50-100 rounds on my person when out and about if i had a gun, and maby 1-2 dozen arrows for the bow if i could find a quiver big enough and would fit comfortably with my day pack.
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randomknife666
randomknife666
57. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 10 2011, 6:28 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2011, 6:28 PM EST
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RO05xmUC-s

a bit of a reality check for those who want to carry a lot of ammo."
hmm... and that weight isnt even counting the individual magazines that youll be putting them in... well.. i only ever planned to carry 20 mags of 5.56 (5 rounds in a magazine.... gotta love canada) in the bug out bag anyways and maybe a brick of 22lr.
lucky though that i live in a low population area so even with just 100 rounds i could deal with about a tenth of the local population, which might not sound like alot but it could definetly make escapeing to a prestocked resupply area i intend to set up on our property alot easier.
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runawayWilly
58. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 10 2011, 7:53 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2011, 7:53 PM EST
school has taught every person who isn't lazy, how to carry stuff. or it taught me anyway and really, guns themselves have some weight so unless you are rambo you not going to be sprinting or walking with more than 4 large guns. so ya yur right Do you find this valuable?    

hhhbkl
59. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 12:26 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 12:26 AM EST
Hey serious question here guys. Im 20 years old in pretty decent physical condition. I want to pack my 3 Day MOLLE pack with all the normal gear i.e. clothes, food, water. Is 1000 .22lr rounds, 50 12 Gauge #8 shot shells, and 60 7.62x54r rounds an unreasonable load? The only reason Id have the Nagant rounds is for raiders, the .22 and 12 gauge are for zeds. Do you find this valuable?    
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