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jdi35
jdi35
60. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 1:24 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 1:24 AM EST
"Hey serious question here guys. Im 20 years old in pretty decent physical condition. I want to pack my 3 Day MOLLE pack with all the normal gear i.e. clothes, food, water. Is 1000 .22lr rounds, 50 12 Gauge #8 shot shells, and 60 7.62x54r rounds an unreasonable load? The only reason Id have the Nagant rounds is for raiders, the .22 and 12 gauge are for zeds."
other than switching out those #8 shells for something with a little more stopping power (BB and up) i'd say your fairly set ammo wise. 1000 rounds of .22 is like 7 lbs, the rifle rounds add 3 and the add another 3, so around 13 lbs for ammo in total, though if you have that weight distributed correctly, its perceived weight is less.
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hhhbkl
61. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 2:21 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 2:21 AM EST
"other than switching out those #8 shells for something with a little more stopping power (BB and up) i'd say your fairly set ammo wise. 1000 rounds of .22 is like 7 lbs, the rifle rounds add 3 and the add another 3, so around 13 lbs for ammo in total, though if you have that weight distributed correctly, its perceived weight is less."
ideally, i would have it distributed both in magazines in a tactical vest and my pack. i am planning on buying a .22 semi-auto pistol, however I am still looking as to what model/make I want. I am leaning towards the Ruger 22/45 just because I have experience with my dads 1911 and I enjoy the feel. I am also definitely buying a Ruger 10/22 and retrofitting it with the recommended aftermarket upgrades i.e. trigger, hammer. Thanks for the advice on the shot size though. I tend to find the best prices for shells are usually #8 shot but I will look into something more substantial
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TheEmperorsChosen
TheEmperorsChosen
62. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 2:23 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 2:23 AM EST
or you can melt fishing weights and make your own slugs.. just a thought, wont be near as accurate as the ones you buy factory, but they will do the job as good as any. Do you find this valuable?    

hhhbkl
63. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 2:29 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 2:34 AM EST
"or you can melt fishing weights and make your own slugs.. just a thought, wont be near as accurate as the ones you buy factory, but they will do the job as good as any."
ha yeah I could maybe try that but I think that would be my last resort (wtf is happening!) round. besides what will I fish with then?
But seriously, can anyone recommend a good .22 semi-auto pistol? preferably one that has more than the standard 10+1 capacity
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PaganArcher
64. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 2:35 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 2:35 AM EST
"ha yeah I could maybe try that but I think that would be my last resort (wtf is happening!) round. besides what will I fish with then?"
Quarters
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Filadog
Filadog
65. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 7:33 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 7:33 AM EST
"Hey serious question here guys. Im 20 years old in pretty decent physical condition. I want to pack my 3 Day MOLLE pack with all the normal gear i.e. clothes, food, water. Is 1000 .22lr rounds, 50 12 Gauge #8 shot shells, and 60 7.62x54r rounds an unreasonable load? The only reason Id have the Nagant rounds is for raiders, the .22 and 12 gauge are for zeds."
So from your taking ammo for 3 different guns I take you are planing on also carrying the 3 guns?
To carry all this seems pretty excessive to me.
Id recommend to load up your pack with the ammo and with your guns go for a hike now and see how things work out.

My guess in actual use you would have wished you brought more food and water then the guns and ammo after a few days
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randomknife666
randomknife666
66. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 9:30 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 9:30 AM EST
"Quarters"
Did anyone else think of resident evil?
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SteelDawn2011
SteelDawn2011
67. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 10:22 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 10:22 AM EST
"Hey serious question here guys. Im 20 years old in pretty decent physical condition. I want to pack my 3 Day MOLLE pack with all the normal gear i.e. clothes, food, water. Is 1000 .22lr rounds, 50 12 Gauge #8 shot shells, and 60 7.62x54r rounds an unreasonable load? The only reason Id have the Nagant rounds is for raiders, the .22 and 12 gauge are for zeds."
Besides your pack, do you have a tactical vest or LBE to carry your ammo that way you can carry more food items and other gear. IF you don't have a vest or LBE you should get one..
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hhhbkl
68. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 2:52 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 2:52 PM EST
Yeah I have a tactical crossdraw vest to carry some of it. It was actually pretty cheap to pick up. only $40 Do you find this valuable?    

hhhbkl
69. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 2:55 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 3:19 PM EST
"So from your taking ammo for 3 different guns I take you are planing on also carrying the 3 guns?
To carry all this seems pretty excessive to me.
Id recommend to load up your pack with the ammo and with your guns go for a hike now and see how things work out.

My guess in actual use you would have wished you brought more food and water then the guns and ammo after a few days"
Yeah actually its for 4 guns because the .22 ammo is for a pistol and a rifle. I have a MOLLE scabbard for the shotgun attached to my pack. The shotgun has an 18 inch barrel and composite stock, so its not too heavy. Same goes for my nagant, I threw an aftermarket stock on it and now its only 5 pounds. The pack has a 3L hydration pack in it and I also have a 1 quart canteen on my belt.

EDIT: I loaded up my pack this morning with the ammo and two 25lb dumbells and water and hiked Camelback Mountain here in AZ. It was a little tiring but I plan on doing it quite often in order to train myself for it

EDIT #2: I am actually carrying 5 guns. I actually weighed my guns all together and found out the specs on the 2 I am purchasing. My Nagant is 5.2lbs, the Mossberg is 5.6lbs my Ruger single Six is 2lbs. I am purchasing the Ruger 22/45 which is 3lbs and the Ruger 10/22 which is 5lbs. So I need to add 20lbs to my person when I hike in order to fully train, not all in my pack but distributed across my body
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PaganArcher
70. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 4:03 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 4:03 PM EST
"Did anyone else think of resident evil?"
I've never played Resident Evil. I've always used a quarter as my fishing weight, especially in murky water.
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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
71. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 4:24 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 4:29 PM EST
"Yeah actually its for 4 guns because the .22 ammo is for a pistol and a rifle. I have a MOLLE scabbard for the shotgun attached to my pack. The shotgun has an 18 inch barrel and composite stock, so its not too heavy. Same goes for my nagant, I threw an aftermarket stock on it and now its only 5 pounds. The pack has a 3L hydration pack in it and I also have a 1 quart canteen on my belt.

EDIT: I loaded up my pack this morning with the ammo and two 25lb dumbells and water and hiked Camelback Mountain here in AZ. It was a little tiring but I plan on doing it quite often in order to train myself for it

EDIT #2: I am actually carrying 5 guns. I actually weighed my guns all together and found out the specs on the 2 I am purchasing. My Nagant is 5.2lbs, the Mossberg is 5.6lbs my Ruger single Six is 2lbs. I am purchasing the Ruger 22/45 which is 3lbs and the Ruger 10/22 which is 5lbs. So I need to add 20lbs to my person when I hike in order to fully train, not all in my pack but distributed across my body"
Why do you need 5 guns while on foot? I think that's a bit much man, especially since you're carrying two .22LR pistols, that's a bit redundant. You need to cut back.
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SteelDawn2011
SteelDawn2011
72. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 6:01 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 6:01 PM EST
Hey its good to have many guns, but you have to consider ammo- quatity and weight. Two pistols, shotgun, and ruger 10/22 and keep the long rifle 7.62x54r for reserve.. 2500 rds per weapon, because if SHTF where will you get ammo, unless you buy more and have caches set up with in your operational area. or where you will go to , a hideout per say. cache extra weapons , ammo , food and gear. in selected sites. and then have a basic combat load that you will carry to get you to your hide... Do you find this valuable?    

hhhbkl
73. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 22 2011, 6:18 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 22 2011, 6:18 PM EST
"Why do you need 5 guns while on foot? I think that's a bit much man, especially since you're carrying two .22LR pistols, that's a bit redundant. You need to cut back."
The revolver also has a .22 magnum cylinder. Id carry it with that. Its a good small game hunting pistol. Theres a use for every gun here. The Nagant would be a good anti-personnel round for raiders and is slightly armor piercing with a steel core bullet. The Ruger rifle is a great primary weapon and also fits in the same scabbard as my shotgun, so Im going to get another scabbard. The shotgun is my preferred choice for urban CQC, just because Im comfortable with it. The only gun I dont necessarily need is the semi-auto pistol, but I will admit that is just a want of mine.
With my gear, I can carry the Nagant in a sling/in my hands, the shotgun and 10/22 in scabbards on my pack, and the pistol(s) in my combat vest (and possibly a drop leg holster)
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qttroassi
74. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 24 2011, 11:47 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 11:47 AM EST
Why not figure out a way too make custom carrying cases and carry backpacks, that would certainly make guns, ammo, and whatever other survival items easy to transport Do you find this valuable?    
randomknife666
randomknife666
75. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 24 2011, 12:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 12:22 PM EST
"I've never played Resident Evil. I've always used a quarter as my fishing weight, especially in murky water."
i was thinking about the new movie where they used quarters in a shotgun, i dont think it would work but damn it would be epic
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zak12
76. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 24 2011, 12:42 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 12:42 PM EST
i like the idea but id personaly have some of the ammo in a drop pouch or seperate bag so if needs be ditch a gun +ammo but dats proball 2 many guns but more guns=more firepower id also add a bat or crowbar if entering urban settings do you have any silent weapons ? Do you find this valuable?    

hhhbkl
77. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 24 2011, 12:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 12:51 PM EST
"i like the idea but id personaly have some of the ammo in a drop pouch or seperate bag so if needs be ditch a gun +ammo but dats proball 2 many guns but more guns=more firepower id also add a bat or crowbar if entering urban settings do you have any silent weapons ?"
yeah i have a survival knife, machete and various other pocket knives. Id love to get my hands on a halligan though. Im surprised more people dont think of them. It combines the best parts of a crowbar and ax, and is designed to be easy to carry and handle
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zak12
78. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 24 2011, 1:05 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 1:05 PM EST
can never have enough knives :D
wow never seen of one of those before looks good il have to look around for one
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Filadog
Filadog
79. RE: ammo is HEAVY, get used to carying it
Feb 24 2011, 1:32 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2011, 1:32 PM EST
"EDIT #2: I am actually carrying 5 guns. I actually weighed my guns all together and found out the specs on the 2 I am purchasing. My Nagant is 5.2lbs, the Mossberg is 5.6lbs my Ruger single Six is 2lbs. I am purchasing the Ruger 22/45 which is 3lbs and the Ruger 10/22 which is 5lbs. So I need to add 20lbs to my person when I hike in order to fully train, not all in my pack but distributed across my body"
Are you really serious and intend to carry on your person a Nagant Rifle, a punp 12 ga. shotgun, a .22 rifle and two 22 handguns ?!...as well as ammo

I suggest getting a small wagon or cart so you can bring along an AR15, a couple large bore hand guns, a back up pistol, a small hide out pistol, a sniper rifle , an air rifle and maybe a cross bow too for those silent kills.....No reason to be undergunned you know [grin]
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