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VagabondVance |
180. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 1 2011, 10:45 PM EST
"Pedro you are now known as Mr House. "Carnack your selling him short, He also counts as Doctor Who. :D Do you find this valuable? |
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181. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 12:04 PM EST
OP.. i do realize it refers to me (now), but what does it mean?Because there are many ways it may happen, and different channels to get info from i just planed as if the zombies appeared in the streets. If it gets public and is a substantial treat, we will be able to follow the plan but on a slower pace. Like board up the house and get in contact with our listed people+, maybe group up in a central location. Then progress when the time is right. I do intend for my mother to make the calls so i can get things around the house in order, if she can't then i can it will just take more time. I do not give names, i have 6 local contacts on it. Each contact has people they will contact (like one would contact his kids). So a large group (almost excessive) would be gathered. I do know a IIIFFD, his friends will listen to him. I have recently learned about his survival plans. He claims that the way he stores his flower has been tested to last 150 years (5 gallon sealed bucket with oxygen and moisture absorbing packs, stored in his basement). We now refer to his home (equipped with solar-panels) as Alpha Base (sounds cool). I am sorry if there is any confusion about my BOL it is first the factory. Then it includes the school. Then also includes the church. If the schools are used as med areas they will use Three Rivers it has a huge school, the old school building is nearby with a few other schools (adult ed and a Catholic i believe) they also have the hospital.. will continue later battery dieing Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
182. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:21 PM EST
"OP.. i do realize it refers to me (now), but what does it mean?"Original Post, or Original Poster. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
183. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:35 PM EST
"Because there are many ways it may happen, and different channels to get info from i just planed as if the zombies appeared in the streets."This is bad planning. A large part of your plan should be about preparing beforehand, monitoring for outbreaks and other disasters and their indicators. Do you live in Tornado Alley? Keep the weather channel on your favourites list. Better yet, learn what causes them, and know what to watch out for. The only way the zombies cover the streets without warning is if you aren't paying attention. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
184. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:36 PM EST
"I do intend for my mother to make the calls so i can get things around the house in order, if she can't then i can it will just take more time."Not bothered if she is making the calls. Does she know, right now, that it will be her job in an emergency? Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
185. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:37 PM EST
"I do not give names, i have 6 local contacts on it. Each contact has people they will contact (like one would contact his kids). So a large group (almost excessive) would be gathered."Define "large". 30, 50, 100? Numbers are fantastic inventions that allow us to quantify all sorts of things. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
186. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:38 PM EST
"I do know a IIIFFD, his friends will listen to him. I have recently learned about his survival plans. He claims that the way he stores his flower has been tested to last 150 years (5 gallon sealed bucket with oxygen and moisture absorbing packs, stored in his basement). We now refer to his home (equipped with solar-panels) as Alpha Base (sounds cool)."So his friends will listen to him, but WHY will he listen to you? Do you find this valuable? |
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Duton1 |
187. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:47 PM EST
I had a good laugh reading this. Of course I did skip... 8 pages. I kinda stopped taking it seriously when he mentioned trying to get a tank.In all seriousness, scrap this plan, start from scratch. Be realistic with what you have, what's available, the surrounding land, the integrity of your "Friends", etc. There's no saying that your "friends" won't leave you to die when a real Z-Poc hits the fan, then you're left to die alone. Just give her another go, and be more mature about it next time. Okay kiddo? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SovietPrince |
188. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:51 PM EST
"So his friends will listen to him, but WHY will he listen to you?"id assume he's part of the family.. just an assumption. at any rate, however, this FFD guy seems to be far more prepared, why not him be the "leader"? I wonder, does your family and friends involved in the plan, do they fully understand that you are in the mindset of preparing for the worst case scenario of whatever? ZombieMaster, you know what would be a GREAT thing for you to do? http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Perfect+Bug-Out-Bag%2C+From+The+Ground+Up. get thinking about bug out bags. take some time to research those, your 72hour kit can be a godsend. One for each person would be very nice. just make sure the bug out bag is with the people, at their residence(you can also make smaller kits for the car or truck) Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
189. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 2:54 PM EST
"I am sorry if there is any confusion about my BOL it is first the factory. Then it includes the school. Then also includes the church. If the schools are used as med areas they will use Three Rivers it has a huge school, the old school building is nearby with a few other schools (adult ed and a Catholic i believe) they also have the hospital.. will continue later battery dieing"The confusion is from your randomly listing implausible things on them. Tanks Bulldozers Backhoe Again, you don't own any of these things, so counting on them for your plan is not helpful. Now, if your plan was to buy these things, it would be more acceptable. Do you find this valuable? |
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190. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 8:03 PM EST
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VagabondVance |
191. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 8:34 PM EST
"Define "large". 30, 50, 100? Numbers are fantastic inventions that allow us to quantify all sorts of things."One, two, more than two All the numbers you need to know if you go tribal. :D 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SovietPrince |
192. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 4 2011, 9:41 PM EST
"One, two, more than two*SP votes this comment be engraved in gold* Do you find this valuable? |
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ZombieMaster1306 |
193. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 6:12 AM EST
PedroAsani, thank you for the way you are asking questions. It is more how i thought it would be. Preparation, I view this as a separate plan. It is different from the survival plan because your plan for survival does not come into effect until you need to survive. Until you are in the survival stage you are in a constant state of preparation. I don't change my plan until I acquire or locate the item i wish to use. My mom does know i intend to have her make the calls, however i do not know if she will. Of the 6 contacts, the first has 2 kids a wife and at least 2 friends i would want him to contact, the second has 2 kids and a husband and family along there road (parents & siblings in-law) one of whom has a excavation co. and a backhoe a trailer and truck for it too, the third has 2 kids his parents are also nearby, the fourth lives with his parents and sister, and the fifth may go and get his grand ma and bring the friend he is living with, the sixth has 2 kids and his mom lives with him. So 6 contacts, 15 people if just the ones who live with the contacts come, plus whom ever they wish to contact and bring with. I do consider 10 people starting to get on the large scale (in a survival situation). the range i have is 6-15+ assuming they all are alive and wish to follow my plan. I have been pondering about the IIFFD's role in my plan. True he has no real reason to follow my plan, his family seems quite important to him. I have considered that he will most likely not wish to leave his home or put his family at risk. I was considering the usefulness of multiple survival posts. I do believe that he would be able so maintain a decent, safe area for survivors. I have a relative who has an excavation business, he owns equipment that is at his home and behind the barn. At a bond-fire they were burning a tree that fell, he rotated the tree with it, darn hot fire too. Do you find this valuable? |
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194. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 6:55 AM EST
The tank is in a single location, i don't see the acquisition of a tank to be childish.I do think it is ridiculous when people want to use its gun. Where do you think you will get its ammo? The machine-gun, if there is one will also need ammo. That is if either gun has not been made inert. The reason i wanted the tank is the protection it provides to its occupants. it would be great as an emergency shelter or a decoy. You would be able to have it run in a safe location, with an occupant supplied with a radio and supplies. It would attract Zombies for a strike team to eliminate. If the Zombies are still persistent, and the occupant runs out of supplies, an emergency situation, they would still have the option to drive off. My preparation plan includes finding out more about seeds. It is my current priority. I always wonder what people plan to eat after it all goes down and my own plan includes farming. However, i do not have the means to start a farm, or even a garden for that matter. The first thing i intend to do is figure how to store the seeds. I am currently considering an air tight container with the seeds stored in labeled cloth bags. You need to leave the moisture and air content to keep the seeds alive. Also i plan on storing it in the basement to keep the temperature constant to keep the seeds dormant. Do you find this valuable? |
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195. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 8:22 AM EST
Now to continue my reply to PedroAsani,Wind generators are not set up to power things directly (usually). They are used to charge a storage medium. You use a converter to make sure that the medium accepts the electricity from the generators and is not damaged by it. You use the medium to power other devices. No, i do not have the numbers and the medium is usually batteries but they need to be deep-cycle the batteries in vehicles may look similar but they will not last long. The freezer will require a more reliable and constant source of power, It will be difficult but valuable. The factory has a backup generator that will last almost a day. There are also emergency lights hooked up to Deep-cycle batteries that i can use. It can have holes cut in the roof for light to get in during the day and then used for storage and vehicle shop. It is relatively easy to brake-in in its current state, if the gate is closed (almost never) you can wiggle under it and a few feet away is the switch to open/close it. There are also a number of doors that are never locked, one of them is lacking a bolt to lock. They would have to get a lock for it (its been missing for over a year, lol). The church is old, and has a real bell, i have rung it. Why would they want miles of coverage? It is in town, and is not that loud. The guns in cop cars are not easy to acquire, they are locked. You must have the keys or tools to get to them, i was figuring a cutting torch form the factory or a drill. Camping on rooftops is a viable option, i don't know where you live but here in Michigan if snows, snow is heavy and sticks around for a while. The flat roofs like thous on the factory and school have to be prepared for a lot of weight. During winter we will be able to remove the snow. Do you find this valuable? |
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196. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 9:48 AM EST
"Preparation, I view this as a separate plan. It is different from the survival plan because your plan for survival does not come into effect until you need to survive. Until you are in the survival stage you are in a constant state of preparation. I don't change my plan until I acquire or locate the item i wish to use."But preparation is 90% of a survival plan. They might be distinct stages of the whole, but execution of the plan is completely dependent on the preparation of that plan. Your plan for survival begins with the acknowledgement that disasters can and do happen. To mitigate the horrific impact they can have on your life, you plan a way to survive. Preparation and survival are not two separate things. They are one single entity which (when done properly) will ensure your continuity through the disaster. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
197. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 9:49 AM EST
"My mom does know i intend to have her make the calls, however i do not know if she will."Then you should clarify that. You have a large item in the early stages of the plan that you cannot rely on. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
198. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 9:51 AM EST
"Of the 6 contacts, the first has 2 kids a wife and at least 2 friends i would want him to contact, the second has 2 kids and a husband and family along there road (parents & siblings in-law) one of whom has a excavation co. and a backhoe a trailer and truck for it too, the third has 2 kids his parents are also nearby, the fourth lives with his parents and sister, and the fifth may go and get his grand ma and bring the friend he is living with, the sixth has 2 kids and his mom lives with him.That should be 6-30+. Build in buffers to your plan. I have food for 65 planned into mine, and I am only bringing 20. Allow for the possibility of more people, or a bad harvest. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
199. RE: ZombieMaster1306, Survival Plan
Mar 6 2011, 9:52 AM EST
"I have been pondering about the IIFFD's role in my plan. True he has no real reason to follow my plan, his family seems quite important to him. I have considered that he will most likely not wish to leave his home or put his family at risk.Then you should not consider him part of your plan. However, include communications in the plan, and make sure he does too. Agree on a frequency so you can contact him, or he you. Better yet, agree that with everyone you are including in your plan as well. Do you find this valuable? |