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JamesIkanov |
Improvised weapons.
Jan 20 2011, 3:58 PM EST
Lets face it. not everyone has guns, and most people have little to no knowledge on how to keep them in a good state of repair. I`m no expert on these, but I know that several, like zip guns, only require a small piece of metal and a .22 caliber bullet. I know that there are many more, and having neither the time nor resources to go out and find them, hoped that anyone reading this who happens to know a few, could leave them behind.also, sorry if this is the wrong place for this or something, but I really didn't know where else to put it. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?
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JamesIkanov |
1. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 20 2011, 5:09 PM EST
Actually, let me explain what I mean. a zip gun is where you take some thing like an asthma inhaler, the metal part, roll it around a number 2 pencil and stick the bullet in point first into the zip gun. then, you take a hard wire of some sort, and stick it into the hole in the back of the casing. after that it's as simple as whacking the wire as hard as you can, and letting the bullet go.
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dooflauchwarrior |
2. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 20 2011, 5:16 PM EST
if i didn't have a gun, i wouldnt want a crappy "gun" like that. The range and power aren't worth the supplies and time you use to make them. To me, homemade clubs or even (if you had the no-how) homemade bows and arrows or slings would be much more effective.
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JamesIkanov |
3. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 28 2011, 5:32 PM EST
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The point is that you can make this with ten minutes, a single bullet and a file. its not an effective weapon, in the sense of the accuracy and stopping power, but if you ONLY HAVE THAT ONE BULLET, its definitely worth it.also, another Bunch of improvised weapons 1. anything small and hard/ heavy in the bottom of a sock, like coins, or pieces of gravel. a personal favorite of mine is a brick. makes a great mace. 2. for an improvised flamethrower, duct tape a Zippo lighter to the out spraying side of an aerosol can. Bug spray and sunblock work best. 3.if you have a bunch of ammo and no gun, and you can find a pair of pliers, you can take out the primer and charge to make a bomb. pull out the bullet itself from the casing with the pliers and pour out the powder into whatever your using as a bomb casing(Pipes, a can full of gravel, whatever). for a fuse, you could us a legit fireworks fuse in countries were they're legal, or simply Google how to make one. 4. if you know how to make a "maul gun" from the yet to be mentioned book, then you also know that at close range with sharpened ammo, it can go through an aluminum can. Note: even if you don't make any of these, just about anything can be turned into a weapon in the right hands. there is this book I read, Mini weapons of mass destruction. even though the weapons by themselves are harmless, replacing the coin in the "coin shooter" with the guts of one of those cheap pens, and you get a literal dart gun. I shot into a cardboard box, and it some how managed to go almost all the way through with only the end sticking out. it was nearly impossible to remove.(not the best example, but you get the idea.) basically, the point is that almost any thing can be turned into a weapon if you know how. Do you find this valuable? |
zachy_vengeance |
4. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 28 2011, 6:28 PM EST
1. Pretty much anything would be used as a blunt melee weapon, but put in a sock isn't a very good idea.2. Most things you can spray out of an aerosol can either don't get very hot, or don't burn for enough time to do damage, not to mention that a small fire like that would force you to be at very close range and may not have enough power to burn past the skin. 3. Most modern gunpowders would mostly just go up in a puff of smoke, and it would be a huge waste of perfectally good ammo. Maybe some black powder would have a little bigger boom if you collected enough. But I can't stress enough, homemade explosives are DANGEROUS and STUPID. I can't think of any situations where homemade anything that goes boom would be a good idea. Do you find this valuable? |
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JamesIkanov |
5. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 28 2011, 7:04 PM EST
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EDIT: Ignore this post I'm in the process of removing anything that explicitly details the manufacture of explosives from my posts.
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zachy_vengeance |
6. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 28 2011, 7:30 PM EST
Be carefull where you go with this homemade stuff kid, this kind of thing gets flamed by senior members on here pretty much every time it comes up
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JamesIkanov |
7. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 30 2011, 7:25 PM EST
Well, I can live with a few insults. It's really up to the person that reads this stuff to decide what to do with it. yes, Its dangerous. no, i can't really do much about that except avoid spreading it. so if anybody feels it"Too dangerous", I'll just edit it out. Do you find this valuable? |
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JamesIkanov |
8. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 30 2011, 7:47 PM EST
"1. Pretty much anything would be used as a blunt melee weapon, but put in a sock isn't a very good idea.Actually, putting a handful of gravel in a sock can turn it into a flail/ mace. not the best, but the point is to turn something hard, but to small to do any real damage into a deadly weapon. Do you find this valuable? |
chitoryu12 |
9. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 30 2011, 10:47 PM EST
"Actually, putting a handful of gravel in a sock can turn it into a flail/ mace. not the best, but the point is to turn something hard, but to small to do any real damage into a deadly weapon."Sure, a flail that's more likely to piss off the person you whacked with it. As for the explosives, I'm telling you right now that it's a pathetically stupid idea that will eventually end badly. You are NOT a professional, so you should NOT be playing with things that go boom. Do you find this valuable? |
trophykiller |
10. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 30 2011, 11:53 PM EST
One thing: TR's warhammer, along with other home made weapons of veteran members. I'll see your baby toys go up against that! Seriously, the things you listed are thing boy scouts make for fun, whereas most members here want the thing on the recieving end dead.
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Markthegenius |
11. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 31 2011, 2:51 PM EST
Something occured to me a few weeks ago, but i'm thinking it probably wouldnt work.There's plenty of copper piping at my house, the type used for plumbing under your tap (in the UK, im assuming its the same size in the US). I've also got a lot of firecrackers from years ago when i used to p!ss about with them when i was younger. Some of them are quite a snug fit into a copper pipe. Do you think if i found a projectile that was also a good fit, i could shoot it out with considerable force? The biggest issue i can see is that the pipe is obviously open-ended. I have the tools available to cap off the end, and have a small hole to ignite the fuse, but it would take a lot of work, be tricky to fire and would most probably end up being sh!te lol. Any thoughts? Do you find this valuable? |
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Markthegenius |
12. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 31 2011, 2:53 PM EST
"Actually, putting a handful of gravel in a sock can turn it into a flail/ mace. not the best, but the point is to turn something hard, but to small to do any real damage into a deadly weapon."A handful of gravel? awful idea in my opinion. half a brick? THEREs a decent sock weapon. Try getting up again if someones clouted you round the head with half a brick in a sock lol Do you find this valuable? |
barret_zombie_bane |
13. RE: Improvised weapons.
Feb 1 2011, 2:39 PM EST
"Actually, let me explain what I mean. a zip gun is where you take some thing like an asthma inhaler, the metal part, roll it around a number 2 pencil and stick the bullet in point first into the zip gun. then, you take a hard wire of some sort, and stick it into the hole in the back of the casing. after that it's as simple as whacking the wire as hard as you can, and letting the bullet go."sorry i really didn't understand that any chance of a diagram or tutorial? Do you find this valuable? |
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chitoryu12 |
14. RE: Improvised weapons.
Feb 1 2011, 3:07 PM EST
Zip guns don't have a set pattern or materials beyond having some kind of bullet or shotgun shell in them. Asthma inhalers, pipes, pencils, wires, nails, etc. Anything that can be put together to make a small, concealable weapon. Shotgun shells and .22LR cartridges are popular because they're not so high-pressure that it blows the weapon to pieces or sends it shooting out of your hand with recoil.I'd personally just save up money for a real handgun than buy a zip gun; they're notoriously unsafe and unreliable, and even if they work perfectly every time you only have one shot before needing to reload. I'd put more faith in even a one-shot derringer. At least that doesn't have a chance of randomly blowing my fingers off. Do you find this valuable? |
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JamesIkanov |
15. RE: Improvised weapons.
May 21 2011, 10:14 PM EDT
Well , I'll keep that in mind. I'd honestly much rather have a real weapon anyway. these are supposed to be used for absolute last ditch use ONLY.Also, new Weapon: Chainlock: from what I understand, this is basically a long chain with a weight at the end, such as a lock. this weapon would work better against a human assailant, as it sounds as though it cannot easily be used to kill a normal human, forget a Zed. Do you find this valuable? |
forvalaka |
16. RE: Improvised weapons.
May 21 2011, 10:30 PM EDT
Flails are much harder to use safely than they appear to be. Do not confuse hitting an inanimate object with what is going to happen in a fight. I have a flail, it is dangerous. To me. I will make a study of how they are used and practice practice practice before I try to do anything like spar with one. Right now, if I use it in a fight, it will be because I had no choice.Improvised ranged weapon - sling. Again, practice practice practice. It will take time to get good with it, but they are powerful and take very little to fabricate. You can make a staff sling too, just by adding a staff to the recipe. Then you have a club too when it comes to close quarters. Improvised hand weapon - prybar. Pick up and swing away. It isn't perfect but it beats mano-a-mano with something infectious. This will work with a lot of things; baseball bats, chair legs, sturdy lamps, lengths of pipe, anything that is long and narrow enough to get your hand around and tough enough to take the hit. The less fabrication you have to do, the fewer places your improvised weapon will have to break at. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Deadspace2fan |
17. RE: Improvised weapons.
May 21 2011, 10:41 PM EDT
A small garden weeder which looks like a miniature rake I found in our garage today is a great weapon and with a little sharpening could penetrate a skull. Is extremely light and Can also be used for weeding.
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chitoryu12 |
18. RE: Improvised weapons.
May 21 2011, 11:21 PM EDT
"Well , I'll keep that in mind. I'd honestly much rather have a real weapon anyway. these are supposed to be used for absolute last ditch use ONLY.As you can read in the Improvised Weaponry page, I covered this very thing. The problem is the chain can't be swung with enough force by a human to easily cause skull fractures (and you want a weapon that'll cause a fracture in as few swings as possible). The other problem is actually hitting the target with the weight as opposed to the chain. Improvised weapons are just that: improvised. They will not stand up to abuse like a dedicated implement would and likely won't do the necessary damage. Do you find this valuable? |
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JamesIkanov |
19. RE: Improvised weapons.
Jan 22 2012, 11:24 AM EST
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"Something occured to me a few weeks ago, but i'm thinking it probably wouldnt work.If you were going to attempt to build something like that, even theoretically, you'd want to test it with a "hands free method", a number of times, before use, or you will literally end up hands free. it could work, but if their was a malfunction of any kind, you would lose body parts or die. plus, with no sights, it would be highly inaccurate. if you used some bottle rockets though... well, that might work a bit better, if you replaced the payload with flash powder or such. but still, good luck if you ever try this. I would suggest adding a fuse extension, such as a cigarette, or your own fuse (easily made with clear directions via Google, and quite safe.) and some variety of mount, like the one the use on myth busters for guns they don't want to be holding when it fires, or something like a telescope mount, both for tests, and actual use. (for testing, wear goggles, and BACK THE **** UP. if it does explode, at least you'll be at a far enough distance that you'll keep yourself in one piece. Edit: oh, and with no rifling, and no exact caliber, the Bullet will tend to bounce around in the barrel, and veer randomly after exiting. Do you find this valuable? |
