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thelittlefieryone	20. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 5:41 PM EST "**** now I have some serious making up to do..." Lol it won't be that bad ;) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	21. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 5:46 PM EST "Would it be alright if I spooned your girlfriend? We'd just talk about what ever came up. :) Just kiddin' and I believe ItsMrManCub was too." NO!!!!!!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Carnack	22. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 6:11 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 24 2011, 6:18 PM EST "Tell someone they can't, and they want to even more... " That's nice. Changes little. What is supposed to be done with those who refuse to follow rules? We are not apes. We have and are expected to exercise self control. If you cannot and can be set off with a simple Do Not Do X then what good are you in a place with rules? Early on food and other supplies will be limited. Risking another drain that early with all the attached issues is out of the question. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Whybother08	23. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 10:10 PM EST But what's the point of preventing relationships? So you're not attached to anyone? So you're not emotionally drained? To me, that's just telling people how to run their lives where it's not needed. They'll generally be big boys and girls, they should be able to make their own choices. Like I said, this isn't Zombieland, where you're not allowed to tell people your name because that makes you emotionally vulnerable for when you trip them up so you can escape. (It really bugs me how sociopathic of an approach that movie took on survival, albeit it wasn't too serious of a movie.) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
VagabondVance	24. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 10:27 PM EST "But what's the point of preventing relationships? " To keep hungry hungry babies existing in a time where the hungry hungry zombies go om-noms on the soft spot on their heads. That is about it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Abu_Fulan	25. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 10:39 PM EST As long as everybody wakes up when it's their turn to pull guard, and doesn't wake me up when it's my turn to sleep, I really couldn't care less who they cuddle with. I don't think anyone would get far in a post-apocalyptic world by making an issue out of stuff that petty. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Whybother08	26. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 10:53 PM EST "I don't think anyone would get far in a post-apocalyptic world by making an issue out of stuff that petty. " 'Petty' isn't the word I'd use, but people definitely are making a bigger deal out of it than it really is. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
thelittlefieryone	27. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 24 2011, 11:37 PM EST This thread makes me laugh. You can't tell people if they can or can't have their own little cuddle sessions, unless you are planning on running a dictatorship. Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure the person trying to tell people what they can and can't do will be the first one booted out of the BOL. I do hope people will be smart enough to take extra measures to NOT end up with a newborn during that time, but honestly people will do what they want. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Carnack	28. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 12:11 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 25 2011, 12:20 AM EST "But what's the point of preventing relationships? So you're not attached to anyone? So you're not emotionally drained?" It has nothing to do with attachments and everything to do with resource drains. A pregnant woman needs more food. Medicine as well. Later on their ability to work is impacted. After it's born the child still needs time, care, and and food. Hopefully mummy dearest survives the birthing. Otherwise that's minus one person to care for the newborn and minus the mother. So in addition to the wasted resources we also lose workers. What do we get? Early on that's a resource drain with no easy way to regain them. Have friends. Be attached. Whatever. So long as there isn't impact on the camp. Once we are able to start churning out our own food and have built up a storehouse the rules will relax dramaticly because we can take the resource hit. Which encourages more work because all that tension will get routed to the production of self-sustaining food supply thus allowing the buildup of resources and with it the ability to take the hit. As for kicking me out...well I'm vindictive enough to think up a great many ways to foul up my BoL. I'm all for freedom but only when you aren't impacting those around you. And a child is a massive impact. One that can be avoided. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
demsmine	29. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 12:16 AM EST I think if you tell someone NOT to do something, they just want to do it even more. If you have a society where sex is a forbidding fruit, i think people would actually be more apt to do it in secret> if anything. just to give the "Daddy" figure the finger. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zedshot	30. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 7:32 AM EST Screw it, Group Oragy Anyone? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RUPREPARED	31. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 9:50 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 26 2011, 10:45 AM EST Family Groups would be the most important, there is no way that you can seperate a mother and/or father from their children (or each other) during a time or crisis... A Single room under heavy guard partioned to suit the differant family groups... Second most important is the shift workers, Guards, Millitary, Farmers these people will be seperated into Night and Day Dormrooms so that they can maintain healthy sleeping paterns (Well as healthy as you can get when your very life is in danger every waking moment).. Everyone else will be in co-ed bunks, with a private changing room for the women. Edit: Fixed my spelling... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DLOWTHEMAD	32. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 9:51 AM EST "It has nothing to do with attachments and everything to do with resource drains. A pregnant woman needs more food. Medicine as well. Later on their ability to work is impacted. After it's born the child still needs time, care, and and food. Hopefully mummy dearest survives the birthing. Otherwise that's minus one person to care for the newborn and minus the mother. So in addition to the wasted resources we also lose workers. What do we get? Early on that's a resource drain with no easy way to regain them. Have friends. Be attached. Whatever. So long as there isn't impact on the camp. Once we are able to start churning out our own food and have built up a storehouse the rules will relax dramaticly because we can take the resource hit. Which encourages more work because all that tension will get routed to the production of self-sustaining food supply thus allowing the buildup of resources and with it the ability to take the hit. I'm all for freedom but only when you aren't impacting those around you. And a child is a massive impact. One that can be avoided. " Problem is carnack, emotions rarely are based on logic (as the two are very nearly exact opposites). You can say "no nookie" all you want... It'll work about as well as anti-drug laws, laws against ******, or outlawing a specific religion. You quote resource drain, you're right children are a resource drain... but if you boot everyone for getting busy, how will you get more resources... judging from your posts everything but breathing is going to outlawed in your community. Who are you going to be in charge of? Few people will stand for your rules, most will chose the road. If you make laws against nookie, most will leave right then!! Better to hand out condoms and birth control measures and let every one blow off some steam... especially if you plan on outlawing guns, drugs, and love. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Emo_Bear_Forever	33. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 10:32 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 25 2011, 12:20 PM EST I am asking for an opinion for the best option to set up in my bol. I personally like the dormitory idea best because families can stay together and couples will have somewhere private to go when they do their thing. I'm not going to be choosing who sleeps in what room unless they're newcomers. Then, they will be in a room with the group that they came with so that a closer eye can be put on them. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	34. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 10:57 AM EST As of right now my preferred BOL point would be a cabin, although I have never been to the cabin i think it would be fairly open so I think stacked hammocks as beds, but if it was at work (Primary RV is my work) we would sleep on the pallet racking Let your people have free reign initially, then if theres a problem change it Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Carnack	35. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 11:25 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 25 2011, 11:53 AM EST Never made it a secret that I plan to be a hermit anyway. This is why. Getting eaten out of cave and cavern by people who think that their lone actions will have no group impact is not how I plan to go. If you have an aversion to doing what is needed what use are you? What exactly do the words "Limited Supplies" mean to you? What posts by the way? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Emo_Bear_Forever	36. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 11:39 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 25 2011, 12:29 PM EST " " I hate how you can't delete posts Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DLOWTHEMAD	37. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 12:17 PM EST "What aversion are you talking about?" He was responding to me... I can get you a list carnack... I will pm you with it, and I'm not trying to give you a hard time, IMHO you are intelligent and well versed. I just try to temper you gung ho attitude with a different viewpoint. As far as doing what is nescessary... You have no idea what is nescessary, z-poc hasn't come. I've had a hard life, I've been through hardship, strife, and made difficult decisions. Just because I have learned to be sensitive to the needs of others, instead of running off half cocked trying to make everyone believe that I am some heartless badass, or trying to force others to be what I want... doens't mean I cannot do what needs to be done. It just means I'm wise enough to know that rules won't change human nature, nor will people follow someone who feels that way. Discipline is fine if you are leading soldiers, rules are good to keep everyone on the same page. Thinking that you can regulate all of the ills of society away is a pipe dream. My stepfather always said: "Locks are just to keep an honest man honest, because a thief will just find another way" You can make all of the rules you want... But if people don't like them they WILL go elsewhere... or take you out. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Emo_Bear_Forever	38. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 12:21 PM EST "This thread makes me laugh. You can't tell people if they can or can't have their own little cuddle sessions, unless you are planning on running a dictatorship. Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure the person trying to tell people what they can and can't do will be the first one booted out of the BOL. I do hope people will be smart enough to take extra measures to NOT end up with a newborn during that time, but honestly people will do what they want." I'm not telling people what they can or cannot do. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Emo_Bear_Forever	39. RE: Sleeping Arrangements for a Bug Out Location Jan 25 2011, 12:26 PM EST "Family Groups would be the most important, there is no way that you can seperate a mother and/or father from their children (or each other) during a time or crisis... A Single room under heavy guard partioned to the family groups... Second most important is the shift workers, Guards, Millitary, Farmers these people will be seperated into Night and Day Dormrooms so that they can maintain healthy sleeping paterns (Well as heathy as you can get when your very life is in danger every waking moment).. everyone else will be in co-ed bunks, with a privet changing room for the women." when you say privet, do you mean private? BTW I really like your idea. Something else I should mention is that there is going to be a nursery for babies and children, which will be heavily guarded. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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