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rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 1 2011, 8:43 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 1 2011, 8:43 PM EST
Bag- Molle 2 assault pack hydration compatible woodland camo.
Defense- WW1 trench shovel, Cold Steel Kukri.
Clothing- Carhart coat with hood, 2 pairs of denim jeans, 3 pairs of socks, 2 spare shirts, 3 pairs of underwear, leather gloves.
Boots- Mid sized waterproof hiking boots.
Camp gear- Lightweight fleece sleeping bag with emergency blanket for added warmth, 8ft by 10ft waterproof tarp.
Survival- M-tech survival knife with flint and steel, 2 ferro rods, hand sanitizer, 24 Weber fire starters, 4 sure2burn fire starters, IMCO lighter with 8oz of lighter fluid, zippo, peanut lighter, Bag of lint, 1 wet fire cube, sparkie, Vaseline soaked cotton balls, 2 razor blades, 3liter hydration pack for assault pack, mayadust, Swiss army knife champion, Duct tape, 2 spare knives, SAS survival guide, 6 tea candles 5 hour, 1 ten hour candle, 50 ft of parachute cord, 50 ft of nylon rope, one surefire flashlight.
Food- three days worth of Mountain house and ramen noodles, 2 person mess kit, Esbit pocket stove, homemade alcohol stove.
Weight- 25lbs without water added.
I have a lot of ways to make fire because I live in a climate that without fire and a tarp you will die. Not because of the air temperature but because of the rain. My pack is extremely lightweight. I am an avid runner and in peak physical condition so I want a bag that i can run at least 2 miles in. You may say that 2 miles is really far but I run at least 6 miles daily. I Think that is everything I will edit if i get something new or forgot something please comment.
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Abu_Fulan
Abu_Fulan
1. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 1 2011, 11:14 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 1 2011, 11:14 PM EST
Do you have stuff for foot care in there? Movement with 30-40 lbs of gear is a lot harder on your feet than regular running. Thick moleskin, some foot powder, nail clippers, gauze, and a needle could really come in handy. That duct tape is good for covering hot spots, too, if you notice them and tape 'em before they get bad.

I would ditch the shovel and add some commo gear -- a crank radio, whistle, and mirror.
What about medical?
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rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
2. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 10:25 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 10:25 AM EST
"Do you have stuff for foot care in there? Movement with 30-40 lbs of gear is a lot harder on your feet than regular running. Thick moleskin, some foot powder, nail clippers, gauze, and a needle could really come in handy. That duct tape is good for covering hot spots, too, if you notice them and tape 'em before they get bad.

I would ditch the shovel and add some commo gear -- a crank radio, whistle, and mirror.
What about medical?"
Yeah thanks. I didn't notice i was missing com gear. See you think you have everything until you write it down. I am still building my first aide but its becoming a hassle do you know of any good lightweight first aide kits out there. About the shovel I've thought about it and it has many uses so i think i might hang on to it. But i haven't tested my pack yet so I might change my mind. Thanks for the comment.
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AndyL89
AndyL89
3. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 11:04 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 11:04 AM EST
If you're from the UK, GoOutdoors do a reasonably priced series of First Aid kits at a variety of sizes from small day packs to larger hiking packs. All within a smallish sized carry pack. Comes with some good quality utilities and only needs a few items adding to it - I always carry one of the medium sized packs in my work bag and a larger kit in my BOB Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
4. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 12:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 12:22 PM EST
"Yeah thanks. I didn't notice i was missing com gear. See you think you have everything until you write it down. I am still building my first aide but its becoming a hassle do you know of any good lightweight first aide kits out there. About the shovel I've thought about it and it has many uses so i think i might hang on to it. But i haven't tested my pack yet so I might change my mind. Thanks for the comment."
Do you get much snow where you live?

Up here (province of Newfoundland, Canada) a shovel isn't an option, it's a necessity, at least anytime between December and April/May-ish. Besides which, as you said, the shovel has uses even if you don't have snow, digging for potable water, digging solar stills, digging latrine pits or whatever.
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LJ126
LJ126
5. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 2:24 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 2:24 PM EST
The only weakness I'm seeing is your food supply - it's fairly small, and given that you're a runner and will likely be in constant motion, calories will be your friend. If it will fit, a plastic container of JIF or Skippy peanut butter would make an excellent dense-calorie addition to your bag.

You might want to invest in some go-fast foods too. Nutragrain bars, Larabars, Clifbars, and little packets of trail mix are all excellent choices when you need that extra little bump of energy. They're also convenient fillers because they only take a minute to eat, require no fire or water to prepare and have enough calories to make a noticeable difference in your energy levels.

Additionally, some sort of first aid kit would help, even if it's just a Spartan kit. Something to plug into an open wound to make it stop bleeding would be handy when you need it!

Also, if it were me, I'd ditch one of the pairs of jeans and throw in a pair of running pants. They're lighter, faster drying (important in NW USA), and better for layering. Cotton tends to hold moisture, and that will cause you to lose body heat very rapidly. Synthetic/wool materials are better in this department.

Otherwise, it looks good! You should put some pictures of your kit up for us, we'd all love to see it!!
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
6. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 2:36 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 2:36 PM EST
More socks... Three pairs is nowhere near enough for a moist environment. You will likely need to change two or three times a day to keep your feet healthy.

Also some very strong anti-fungal cream.
Moist environment + shoes all day = trench foot
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rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
7. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 6:43 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 6:43 PM EST
I live in Oregon and in oregon there is at least 5 different climates. From raining everyday of the year and snowing all the way to high desert. Where I live in Oregon It rains 190 days of the year. They have found people dead not from exposure but because they were so wet from the rain they resembled someone that had been floating at sea. In the middle of winter the rain is very cold and often transforms into freezing rain. In the winter you can die from exposure to the rain. I also live withing 30 miles of Mt. Hood which gets alot of snow.

Thanks for the other advice I just have one question. Should I make a page to put the pictures up or should I post them to my profile or what.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
8. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 7:32 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 7:32 PM EST
I would say to your profile, personally.

Or to your plan page if you have one.
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jdi35
jdi35
9. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 7:46 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 7:46 PM EST
"I live in Oregon and in oregon there is at least 5 different climates. From raining everyday of the year and snowing all the way to high desert. Where I live in Oregon It rains 190 days of the year. They have found people dead not from exposure but because they were so wet from the rain they resembled someone that had been floating at sea. In the middle of winter the rain is very cold and often transforms into freezing rain. In the winter you can die from exposure to the rain. I also live withing 30 miles of Mt. Hood which gets alot of snow.

Thanks for the other advice I just have one question. Should I make a page to put the pictures up or should I post them to my profile or what."
i think we still have that loadouts page floating around somewhere where you can post pics of yourself all kitted up and a brief description of the gear on your person

it took me about 5 minutes to find the damn page, we need some better site navigation or something...........
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Loadouts
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rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
10. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 2 2011, 11:52 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2011, 11:52 PM EST
"I would say to your profile, personally.

Or to your plan page if you have one."
I made a plan thread back when I first joined but it got locked because i didn't know what I was doing. I haven't made a plan because a lot of things are not set up right for my plan. My BOL was ruined because it wasn't my land and it developed this summer. Then I had to sell all my firearms for personal reasons. But yeah I think I'll post it to my profile much easier.
Thanks for the page idi but it feels simpler just to post to profile.
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rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
11. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Feb 3 2011, 12:53 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2011, 12:53 AM EST
Just posted pic's to my profile If you have any questions on whats what just point out which picture it is and it's general location on the picture. Sorry the picture quality is kinda bad. Do you find this valuable?    
Fishzilla
Fishzilla
12. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 2:03 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 2:03 AM EST
Just FYI, I have found that Scrubs are a very good under/middle layer garment for cold/wet weather. The weave is so dense that they cut the wind that gets through other fabrics, plus scrubs they dry out fast and they are super light weight. I have two sets of dark colored scrubs in my BOB, which I MAY get around to posting some day, for all of the above reasons. Do you find this valuable?    
x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
13. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 8:21 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 8:21 AM EST
I have two main things to add: One, add balloons to your B.O.B. They have a surprisingly large amount of uses, from emergency canteens to camp markers to stuff sacks (Cut off the end so you can pull it open easily), and they're really small and light, so pack a bunch.
The other thing is hard candy. Bring lots of that. If you're short on food and you're moving, whether it's from zombies or to a safe point, your body will break down your muscles for quick energy, since it's easier and quicker to break down muscles than fat. So while you are moving and short on food, pop a hard candy into your mouth to give your body an easy source of energy other than your muscles.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
14. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 9:14 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 9:15 AM EST
"I have two main things to add: One, add balloons to your B.O.B. The other thing is hard candy."
Scrubs, Candy and Balloons, excellent ideas all three.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
15. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 9:29 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 9:35 AM EST
Sounds like a creepy clown moment waiting to happen XD

Also you should get some of these...
http://safetycentral.com/fronporwatfi.html

You didn't list any kind of water filtration. I know boiling works, but you won't always have time to build a fire and boil water. So a portable emergency filter is another good addition to a well thought out BOB...

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White76Knight
White76Knight
16. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 2:14 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 2:14 PM EST
"Sounds like a creepy clown moment waiting to happen XD

Also you should get some of these...
http://safetycentral.com/fronporwatfi.html

You didn't list any kind of water filtration. I know boiling works, but you won't always have time to build a fire and boil water. So a portable emergency filter is another good addition to a well thought out BOB...

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LOL, yeah I guess it does sound like Bozo Gone Bad not that you mention it.


As for the straw filter, the exact same one DLOW linked can be had here for a few bucks less.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CAMP174-1.html
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
17. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 2:18 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 2:18 PM EST
Strain it through a cloth then put a water purifying tablet in it. Do you find this valuable?    
rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
18. RE: Rabidbeaver's BOB
Mar 1 2011, 2:21 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2011, 2:21 PM EST
Fish- Yeah thanks for the scrubs Idea I have some scrubs and didn't think to use them so I think I will throw them in my bag.

X-wolf- Great ideas the balloons and candy I havn't thought of either one. I have one thing though I always thought that when you are exerting yourself you blood sugar is burned then you glycogen, then your fat , and finally your muscle. But if you are in a famine your muscle goes first because you are probably so hungry you are not using them. But yeah thanks for the ideas.
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