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deep_sea_diver
deep_sea_diver
survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 4:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 4:13 PM EST
Adding new members to your band of merry men can be a real problem or a big help. First they will need to be disarmed and quarantined. They will have to agree to abide by a set group of bi-laws, and a means of enforcement of these laws needs to be established. While it is human nature, to help everyone you can, what happens if the person is too old, or sick, to work? What if the person doesn't place nice with others? To what limit do you punish an offender? In a large group, weapons will need to be secured in an armory, and only issued to qualified persons. While I am all in favor of the 2nd amendment, you just can't have everyone running around with weapons. Also there has to be some kind of control placed on alcohol, again, this won't be popular either but you can't have someone, drinking a beer, while on watch, or prior too going on watch. And let's face it, someone that is a habitual drunk, is of no use to the group. Although, the world just ended, some people are going to want a drink, and that's understandable. And what to do, with those that are say, already in jail or prison for being naughty? You really can't afford resources, to keep someone caged, but do you let a killer loose? What about non violent offenders, say someone arrested for a simple DWI? Rebuilding society gets complicated fast. Have a nice day. 7  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
1. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 4:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 4:22 PM EST
people would read your posts and respond more often if they could read your posts more easily. if you break your big wall of text then people would take you more seriously and you can become a respected member of the community. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
2. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 5:05 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 5:05 PM EST
"people would read your posts and respond more often if they could read your posts more easily. if you break your big wall of text then people would take you more seriously and you can become a respected member of the community."
I agree, its almost spam
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 7:21 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 7:21 PM EST
"Adding new members to your band of merry men can be a real problem or a big help. First they will need to be disarmed and quarantined. They will have to agree to abide by a set group of by-laws, and a means of enforcement of these laws needs to be established.

While it is human nature, to help everyone you can, what happens if the person is too old, or sick, to work? What if the person doesn't place nice with others? To what limit do you punish an offender?

In a large group, weapons will need to be secured in an armory, and only issued to qualified persons. While I am all in favor of the 2nd amendment, you just can't have everyone running around with weapons. Also there has to be some kind of control placed on alcohol, again, this won't be popular either but you can't have someone, drinking a beer, while on watch, or prior too going on watch. And let's face it, someone that is a habitual drunk, is of no use to the group.

Although, the world just ended, some people are going to want a drink, and that's understandable. And what to do, with those that are say, already in jail or prison for being naughty? You really can't afford resources, to keep someone caged, but do you let a killer loose? What about non violent offenders, say someone arrested for a simple DWI? Rebuilding society gets complicated fast. Have a nice day."
Fixed.
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Tigershield
Tigershield
4. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 8:00 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 8:00 PM EST
Well about rebuilding society, I dont think that will hapen soon,If a infection is spreading like a wildfire.there will be mostly chaos in the beginning.goverments fall,because the goverment are just people to they want there familiy safe to when SHTF. They may go NBC(Nuclear biological,chemical)

And after the chaos,there are just Infected running around.But the small amount of people who have survived the chaos, Wont give there weapons away,

Reasons

1,A weapon gives power.

2.A weapon gives the feeling of safety,well I do feel safer when I have a weapon.And i'm not going to give away my safety feeling. Well I dont have a weapon,because i live in Holland,Only fired whit a air presured rifle a few times.

3.Search for a safe haven,

Well when the SHTF.I aint going to get a drink haha. That's a sure way to end. Atleast you wont feel the alcohol when you get shredded into peaces,hehe

Just my 2 cent

Greeting.

Tigershield
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
5. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 8:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 8:26 PM EST
"Well about rebuilding society, I dont think that will hapen soon,If a infection is spreading like a wildfire.there will be mostly chaos in the beginning.goverments fall,because the goverment are just people to they want there familiy safe to when SHTF. They may go NBC(Nuclear biological,chemical)

And after the chaos,there are just Infected running around.But the small amount of people who have survived the chaos, Wont give there weapons away,

Reasons

1,A weapon gives power.

2.A weapon gives the feeling of safety,well I do feel safer when I have a weapon.And i'm not going to give away my safety feeling. Well I dont have a weapon,because i live in Holland,Only fired whit a air presured rifle a few times.

3.Search for a safe haven,

Well when the SHTF.I aint going to get a drink haha. That's a sure way to end. Atleast you wont feel the alcohol when you get shredded into peaces,hehe

Just my 2 cent

Greeting.

Tigershield "
Fine, off you go. You don't get to come into a settlement with a weapon, because you have to go through quarantine. And someone with a weapon in quarantine is a liability, and a danger to others.
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EastCoaster9000
6. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 8:30 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 8:30 PM EST
"Well about rebuilding society, I dont think that will hapen soon,If a infection is spreading like a wildfire.there will be mostly chaos in the beginning.goverments fall,because the goverment are just people to they want there familiy safe to when SHTF. They may go NBC(Nuclear biological,chemical)

And after the chaos,there are just Infected running around.But the small amount of people who have survived the chaos, Wont give there weapons away,

Reasons

1,A weapon gives power.

2.A weapon gives the feeling of safety,well I do feel safer when I have a weapon.And i'm not going to give away my safety feeling. Well I dont have a weapon,because i live in Holland,Only fired whit a air presured rifle a few times.

3.Search for a safe haven,

Well when the SHTF.I aint going to get a drink haha. That's a sure way to end. Atleast you wont feel the alcohol when you get shredded into peaces,hehe

Just my 2 cent

Greeting.

Tigershield "
Please think.
2c
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
7. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 8:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 8:39 PM EST
"Please think.
2c "
Take your own advice.

Your not helping bro your hating.
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P0LaND
P0LaND
8. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 8:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 8:51 PM EST
Can you be a bunch of merry men, and still keep your gun? Do you find this valuable?    
ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
9. RE: survivor intake
Feb 8 2011, 8:53 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2011, 8:53 PM EST
"Can you be a bunch of merry men, and still keep your gun?"
I do not think I would feel comfortable being around "merry" men WITHOUT my gun.
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Tigershield
Tigershield
10. RE: survivor intake
Feb 9 2011, 11:29 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2011, 11:29 AM EST
quaratine is important no doubt on that,but would you give away your weapon(s) to an unknown stranger who has a group, Well I dont,

The settlements that still stand after Zday will have a hard time, Zombies or how ever you want to call it. Will suround the places where survivors are. The supply's will run out. And look at the 28 weeks later scene where those kids cross the bridge to go to there old house.Even whit maxium security people will do stupid things to feel safer for themself and let the others die. I call that instinct.

There is a other scene in it where the main character kisses his wife.he turns into a infected and all hell brakes lose. in the supossed safe zone.

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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
11. RE: survivor intake
Feb 9 2011, 3:43 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2011, 3:43 PM EST
It's quite a simple choice: give up your weapons and go through quarantine, or walk away.

You don't get to argue "I don't feel safe." Quarantine procedure is to keep everyone safe. Both groups, yours and theirs.

You are the one who wants help. Help is only going to be provided on their terms. Give up your weapon, or walk away.

And are you really using Movie Bad Decisions to back up your point? The whole point of a movie is to provide entertainment, not instruction for quarantine.
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Filadog
Filadog
12. RE: survivor intake
Feb 9 2011, 4:12 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2011, 4:12 PM EST
Why is it that so many people on here think in the post Apocalyptic world they are going to become a leader of some "group", make up rules for other people and that people are going to want to join them?

Its like today they are some high school kid or a car salesman or what ever but end of the world comes.....and ...SNAP....they become emperor of all they survey with their own fiefdom !
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deep_sea_diver
deep_sea_diver
13. RE: survivor intake
Feb 9 2011, 7:07 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2011, 7:19 PM EST
Granted, giving up your weapon will be hard to do. I understand that as much as the next man. However, there is safety, and food, in numbers, far better than one man alone. It's simple, if you want to join, here are the rules, if not, have a nice day and tell your story walking. After someone is deamed healthy, passed some set skill levels, they will get their weapon back, or a better one perhaps, afterall, the more qualified people with weapons, the better for all.

The last thing the group needs, is skippy the gunfighter, running around shooting at the moon. What the group needs, is well trained marksmen. Face it, they dont issue m-16's at the gate of recruit training command. After you pass certain skill levels, you get your weapon. Again, if you don't like it, you don't have to join.

There is also a need for non combatants, cooks, medical, etc. Building up a unit isnt easy, It takes many skilled hands, and people willing to work towards a goal. I realize there are alot of kids here that might have even reached level 6 or 7 on their playstations. That qualifies you to wash dishes, not run a tank crew. Those older members, with actual skills and qualifications will be needed to help lead various groups
. As to family members, thats another tough area. Say Grandma, or Grandpa needs ongoing medical care? Even a few inferm elderly can consume enough meds for 10 otherwise healthy younger people. These are all tough decisions, the leaders will have to face. Young mothers are yet another issue, they require alot of resources too, yet only with the next generation is there hope for the future. You must be willing to set aside, your ego, for the good of the group. And yea, people that can run a still will be in big demand too, alcohol, for both drinking, and medical uses will be needed.
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P0LaND
P0LaND
14. RE: survivor intake
Feb 9 2011, 9:26 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2011, 9:26 PM EST
Sounds like a pretty solid idea to me.

If it were me, I would be asking myself the question now, "Why would they listen to me?" and "How am I going to get to this point?"

The latter question is more of a different thread type of deal though.
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ZombieMaster1306
ZombieMaster1306
15. RE: survivor intake
Feb 12 2011, 3:53 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 12 2011, 3:53 PM EST
In my plans there will be no alcohol, tobacco or other products that are of no real use. (no personal intoxicants, only alternative uses)

All the stills will be producing fuel for vehicles (ethanol).

Marijuana have a lot of uses (other than drug) like cloths, rope, and food (seeds have lots of proteins and amino acids) and the drug has medical uses although they are weird and rare-like things.
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P0LaND
P0LaND
16. RE: survivor intake
Feb 12 2011, 7:49 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 12 2011, 7:49 PM EST
"In my plans there will be no alcohol, tobacco or other products that are of no real use. (no personal intoxicants, only alternative uses)

All the stills will be producing fuel for vehicles (ethanol).

Marijuana have a lot of uses (other than drug) like cloths, rope, and food (seeds have lots of proteins and amino acids) and the drug has medical uses although they are weird and rare-like things."
So you're going to be producing mass amounts of alcohol and marijuana, but ensuring none of it can be used for personal, recreational use?

...hahahaha XD
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
17. RE: survivor intake
Feb 13 2011, 1:58 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 13 2011, 1:58 AM EST
"In my plans there will be no alcohol, tobacco or other products that are of no real use. (no personal intoxicants, only alternative uses)

All the stills will be producing fuel for vehicles (ethanol).

Marijuana have a lot of uses (other than drug) like cloths, rope, and food (seeds have lots of proteins and amino acids) and the drug has medical uses although they are weird and rare-like things."
I call BS on that, someone will make a still for their own use

You mean Hemp? hemp is the material, marijuana is the drug
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ZombieMaster1306
ZombieMaster1306
18. RE: survivor intake
Feb 18 2011, 12:06 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 18 2011, 12:06 PM EST
Marijuana is the common name for the plant, is it not?

The hemp is the fibers in the plant.

I do believe only the seed pod and leaves are hallucinogenic.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
19. RE: survivor intake
Feb 18 2011, 12:16 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 18 2011, 12:16 PM EST
"Marijuana is the common name for the plant, is it not?

The hemp is the fibers in the plant.

I do believe only the seed pod and leaves are hallucinogenic."
Common, maybe not proper
I'm not actually 100% sure, I thought it was what I said before
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