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seeker407 |
Bullpup AK 47
Feb 9 2011, 12:29 PM EST
Don't know if any of all remember me.. but a few months ago (about 6) I was ranting about guns and my survival plans... SOOOOcheck it OUT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT85kYf8-mI its a video of my updated and tricked out AK47 (no scope yet, but thats next) Taken on my Motorola Defy (water proof smart phone) = zombie proof smart phone! hahaha Do you find this valuable? |
zachy_vengeance |
1. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 9 2011, 6:21 PM EST
Gotta say, that looks pretty damn wierd to shoot. Especially with the pistol grip and trigger right next to the vertical forearm grip. But I've never shot it so what do I know. ^_^ Still pretty sweet. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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seeker407 |
3. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 17 2011, 1:09 AM EST
"Gotta say, that looks pretty damn wierd to shoot. Especially with the pistol grip and trigger right next to the vertical forearm grip. But I've never shot it so what do I know. ^_^well i havent shot it in that configuration either... although its completly movable... i actually moved it closer to the mouth of the barrel right after i recorded the video... ill post some pics later Do you find this valuable? |
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seeker407 |
4. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 17 2011, 1:10 AM EST
"How does it shoot?"how does it shoot? well see that round thing? you make sure that (or any standard ak 47 mag) is pushed in real tight... then you push that lever down towards the round thing... then you pull the charging handle back all the way and let go so you here the "CHU *****!" then you aim at your target, and pull the trigger about 7 pounds, and BOOM it fires... and your ready to spit out another 74 rounds! does that answer your question? 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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chitoryu12 |
5. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 17 2011, 1:41 AM EST
"how does it shoot? well see that round thing? you make sure that (or any standard ak 47 mag) is pushed in real tight... then you push that lever down towards the round thing... then you pull the charging handle back all the way and let go so you here the "CHU *****!" then you aim at your target, and pull the trigger about 7 pounds, and BOOM it fires... and your ready to spit out another 74 rounds!I was talking about how well it works. -_- Do you find this valuable? |
possumblaster |
6. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 17 2011, 1:15 PM EST
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My questionsCan your firing hand manipulate the grip and trigger with the drum? Can you fire it left handed? How much did the bullpup conversion increase the trigger pull? Have you taken into consideration the increased sight height for zeroing purposes? Also what is the make and model of the rifle? I'm pretty sure it's not a true AK47, and there actually aren't many of those in existence anymore (and the transferable ones I have seen go for around $15,000). I would guess it to be a Century Arms RI-1621-X. I'm just trying to figure out what you are working with here. Also I felt the way you answered chitoryu12's question was a little uncalled for. Do you find this valuable? |
toxic_shock |
7. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 17 2011, 9:09 PM EST
I was actually looking at one of these Century Arms Bullpups. Then I read the reviews. Heavy -ass trigger pull. Will burn your hand if you don't rig up some kind of vertical foregrip, and even when you do, your trigger finger will burn too. Completely unusable for left-handed shooters. Definitely have second thoughts now.And for what reasons would you scope a bullpup anything? Do you find this valuable? |
2WheeledSpeed |
8. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 18 2011, 8:52 AM EST
"I was actually looking at one of these Century Arms Bullpups. Then I read the reviews. Heavy -ass trigger pull. Will burn your hand if you don't rig up some kind of vertical foregrip, and even when you do, your trigger finger will burn too. Completely unusable for left-handed shooters. Definitely have second thoughts now.I think bullpups are a bad idea all around, but many will argue to the death in defense of them. I hate changing mags on them, and don't like the weight balance. Generally they have bad triggers, sometimes suck for lefties, and are considered dangerous in the case of a KB! by some (That's why KelTec brags about having extra steel above the action to protect the shooter on their RFB). Do you find this valuable? |
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seeker407 |
9. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 18 2011, 3:20 PM EST
"I was talking about how well it works.oh..lol... well it fires everytime you pull the trigger... hmmm i'm dead on around 50 yards... Do you find this valuable? |
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seeker407 |
10. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 18 2011, 3:26 PM EST
"My questionsyeah i've fired all 75 rounds out of the drum before.. its a bit awkward like i had mentioned before, but meh its all good. firing any bullpup left handed takes a certain technique... but it takes some serious training to actually be proficient at it. It was factory converted, so i dont know the change on trigger pull... but its about a 7 lb trigger pull... its not so bad unless you're weak ;) like i said earlier... dead on about 50 yards... and if i took it to the range, i could probably get it even more... Pretty sure its a romanian import that was Americanized by CAI... legally speaking you cant have a "true" ak 47 without a WHOLE bunch of taxes... The US government says there has to be a certain amount of American made parts... but the design and reliabitly principles are the same... and maybe try to thicken yalls skin! i was totally joking! Do you find this valuable? |
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seeker407 |
11. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 18 2011, 4:35 PM EST
"I think bullpups are a bad idea all around, but many will argue to the death in defense of them. I hate changing mags on them, and don't like the weight balance.meh, i think its personal preference.. I posted this video on here as a demonstration as to what i have, not trying to sell yall on it. The fact is: I have it, and I really enjoy shooting it... and its small enough that I can have serious firepower in a large backpack, car, etc. I enjoy shooting it and the ammo is dirt cheap. I have the reliability of an ak47... And i dont know what danger you're talking about... I've put 400 rounds through it already and theres no issues... just bought another 400 rounds and another mag.. Ive researched the RFB throughly, and I don't recall hearing about extra metal to protect shooters from anything... I was curious to see if anyone had tried it, and this guy has shown how to fire from the left side: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/bullpup-talk/167443-video-shooting-bullpups-left-shoulder.html The only thing i'd be concerned with is the charging handle on mine... however heres a website where you can remove the gas tube and replace it with a forward charging handle: http://www.dublinaksystems.com/purchase.html I also wanted to put an Ultimak rail mount on it so i could mount a red dot (not a scope) but the ultimak needs to hook up with the AK ratcheting system from dublin and produce a hybrid! then i'd have the ultimate rifle! Do you find this valuable? |
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2WheeledSpeed |
12. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 18 2011, 4:43 PM EST
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It is personal preference, I'm not trying to stop anyone from buying them either. And I know you CAN shoot it from the left, but how long do you want to get hit in the face with hot brass?The danger I was talking about, was from a KB! or catastrophic failure. If that gun blows up, the action is literally under your cheek. If YOU had an issue with that... You wouldn't be shooting that gun, trust me :) Haven't heard of any incidents of this firsthand, but it is something I see a lot of people complain about with bullpups in general. If you go to Kel Tecs website, it says right on the RFB page... "The RFB is also the safest Bullpup ever developed because the breech is separated from the shooters face by two layers of 1.6 mm steel. In the highly unlikely event of a case rupture, gas expansion is directed downwards through the magazine well to protect the shooters head and face." So it's definitely something some people worry about, I can't and won't say if it's a legitimate worry or not. Do you find this valuable? |
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seeker407 |
13. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 19 2011, 8:52 PM EST
"It is personal preference, I'm not trying to stop anyone from buying them either. And I know you CAN shoot it from the left, but how long do you want to get hit in the face with hot brass?Hmm, maybe that has something to do with home reloading.. like i've heard that its popular to over charge rounds to increase muzzle velocity (and thus increasing the speed aka accuracy) but yeah i have been on a lot of gun fourms, and I haven't heard much talk/concern about guns blowing up on people... But i guess that is a concern. just bought a glock 17.. woot ima post some pics with all my gear soon! Do you find this valuable? |
timberrattler |
14. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 19 2011, 9:01 PM EST
Sorry but I don't much care for a bullpup anything. Europeans love'em so you're not alone. Don't know because I've never shot one but it seems like re-loads would be tricky.
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2WheeledSpeed |
15. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 19 2011, 9:02 PM EST
"Hmm, maybe that has something to do with home reloading.. like i've heard that its popular to over charge rounds to increase muzzle velocity (and thus increasing the speed aka accuracy) but yeah i have been on a lot of gun fourms, and I haven't heard much talk/concern about guns blowing up on people... But i guess that is a concern.It is more common with reloaders making mistakes than with factory ammunition, though I have heard of even factory ammunition causing this. It's pretty rare in general, but it happens. Do you find this valuable? |
inu-dude25 |
16. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 24 2011, 10:37 PM EST
"Sorry but I don't much care for a bullpup anything. Europeans love'em so you're not alone. Don't know because I've never shot one but it seems like re-loads would be tricky."I agree with you on that. I mean, it takes some practice, but I always thought with a traditional rifle you could pull the magazine with one still in the chamber, stay on target, and put a new magazine in. With the bull pup, you conceivably need to pull the rifle up to eject and reload. I get the CQC advantage, but I think I'd rather just have a regular rifle and a high caliber handgun. Do you find this valuable? |
Sullivan714 |
17. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 27 2011, 8:04 PM EST
Recently I've been wanting to sell my AR-15 for one of these. I still want an assault rifle but shorter than my M4. I really like the style of this kind of rifle. It costs half of what I paid for the M4 too. Such a ***** that I live in CA where its illegal :(
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seeker407 |
18. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 27 2011, 8:44 PM EST
"Recently I've been wanting to sell my AR-15 for one of these. I still want an assault rifle but shorter than my M4. I really like the style of this kind of rifle. It costs half of what I paid for the M4 too. Such a ***** that I live in CA where its illegal :( "ahh dude that sucks... hmm well i dunno if i would sell an m4 for it haha, but thats just cause like you said the M4 is like twice or triple the price of one of these stock... just save up for like 2 months and buy one new and have both :) I just bought a glock 17... and currently customizing it... extended releases (mag/slide) sandpaper grips, maratime spring cups (for firing underwater) next buy is a saiga 12, and then a bullpup kit for that, then a mosin nagant, then a ruger LCP... then ima save up for a TAR-21 (civillian imports are like $3000) or a Styer AUG Do you find this valuable? |
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Sullivan714 |
19. RE: Bullpup AK 47
Feb 27 2011, 9:03 PM EST
"ahh dude that sucks... hmm well i dunno if i would sell an m4 for it haha, but thats just cause like you said the M4 is like twice or triple the price of one of these stock...yup...maybe i'll buy one out in NH when I visit my parents. I would sell my M4. I'm ready for another rifle. Do you find this valuable? |
