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Sharpie41 |
Low Light Shooting Method
Mar 2 2011, 2:04 PM EST
| Post edited: Mar 2 2011, 2:26 PM EST
So I was looking at the "Flashlights" section of this page and I saw that the pictures were demonstrating shooting techniques with Falshlights, the one depicted is the "Rogers" Method, the problem I see with this method is that one hand is holding the light and one the pistol, but we all know that shooting with two hands is more accurate and controllable so I want to spread my wisdom on the sujectI have a couple issues of "Surefire:Combat Tactics" and one of the articles is on low light shooting and it was a former US Air Marshal who wanted to be able to use a flashlight while having a two handed grip, his duty firearm did not have a rail for the purpose of concealment, so he developed his own technique, I can't remember what it is called but here is what you do Take a light that has a tailcap-switch (I have a G2 Nitrolon) and place it between your ring and middle finger on your weak-side hand so the tailcap juts out only a bit (For me the space between the cap and body of the light is where the web of my hand goes) then grag your pistol with your strong side then place your weak hand like you normally would, the tailcap switch should either be actuated by the knuckles on your strong hand or the trgger guard of your firearm Surefire Combat Rings would make this a bit easier to both do as well as understand this method Let me know what you think and if you think it would work Do you find this valuable?
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Sharpie41 |
1. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 2:10 PM EST
"So I was looking at the "Flashlights" section of this page and I saw that the pictures were demonstrating shooting techniques with Falshlights, the one depicted is the "Rogers" Method, the problem I see with this method is that one hand is holding the light and one the pistol, but we all know that shooting with two hands is more accurate and controllable so I want to spread my wisdom on the sujectUpdate I believe I found the name of this technique, it is called the Graham Method named after the man who developed this method as well as the Surefire Combat Rings Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
3. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 2:49 PM EST
"One word: Headlamps."None of my headlamps are near as bright as my G2 Do you find this valuable? |
possumblaster |
4. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 5:12 PM EST
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Using white light is one good way to get you killed in a hurry if you are up against more than one enemy IMO.As soon as you kick on that light at night everyone from a mile away will be able to see you, and you give them a perfect target to aim at. If someone busts through my door and kicks on a flashlight, I will know exactly where to aim while they are looking for me. Nobody in my group will be allowed to use a flashlight unless they are indoors in a room with no windows. My school of thought is night vision w/ infared laser or nothing at all. Many will disagree with me, that's just my opinion. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sharpie41 |
5. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 5:20 PM EST
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"Using white light is one good way to get you killed in a hurry if you are up against more than one enemy IMO.But you need to see as well and not everyone will have NOD, come Z-Day I will be a scrounger (most likely) so I will need to be able to see as well as possibly shoot in the dark, this is more just info for those who do not have a rail but need a light and need to shoot well and fast (usually requiring a 2-handed grip) Do you find this valuable? |
cas13f |
6. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 6:59 PM EST
I've done night shooting with NODs and an infrared laser.Even Gen3 optics reduce the sharpness, and barely have the range of a good high-lumen SureFire most of the time. Plainly, it SUCKS shooting at night with the laster. In actuality, most of what you'll be seeing will still be black. Unless there is enough ambient light (full moon, no cloud cover and minimal to no tree cover) your range of vision will be tiny, short, and pretty much consist of a greenish-black circle overlapping your normal vision (monocular set, not binocular) with the laster showing however far. Even with infrared chemlights stuck to them, it was hard to hit green ivans from ANY distance, some as close as 25 meters! In short... Night shooting sucks. NODs are beyond "expensive" for anything worth a crap, hard of batteries, and hard to use. Stick to conventional methods. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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possumblaster |
7. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 7:27 PM EST
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"In actuality, most of what you'll be seeing will still be black.A greenish black circle? Seriously, either your PVS14's weren't set up right or they were broken. Shooting out to at least 200 meters is easy. Hell I have a personal set of old beat up PVS7's from the 80's they are more than enough to engage at 200+ meters. Do you find this valuable? |
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cas13f |
8. RE: Low Light Shooting
Mar 2 2011, 8:58 PM EST
THey can only work with the light availalbe, regardless of the spectrum it can utilize. With ZERO ambient light and the infrared torches turned off, things are still dark. With the torch on, just that is lit. We had range lights, at the main range, but on the arms that night shooting occured, there were none, and tree coverage limited starlight. We didn't shoot at high-moon hours, either. I couldn't see much of ANYTHING at 200 meters but the outline of the tops of the trees against the slightly brighter sky. And occasionally a small green dot of an Ivan with an IR chemlight stuck to it.
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