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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
20. RE: Zombie Speed
May 12 2011, 9:55 AM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2011, 9:55 AM EDT
"He was wielding a shotgun.

His was a side-by-side brake barrel, You can only have one shell in a chamber at a time so his limit is 2.

To reload a double barrel you move your thumb to the right to move a lever sideways drop the front and the casings (or shells if unfired) will be ejected.

You then take a couple of shells in hand and insert them into the chamber, and lift the barrel back into position (quit pushing on the lever or it will not lock in position).

Ta-Da

I question why you have 3 shells listed for a shotgun, the only shotgun i have personally seen that holds 3 is a 410g bolt action.

Pumps usually hold AT LEAST 4.

Hunting laws in your area may require that you DO NOT HAVE more than three shells in your shot gun at a time, however this is not a limit on your guns capacity.

Two of my brake barrel shotguns are single barrel. They do not have a leaver, they have a button. I, to reload, push said button and insert shell.
Inadequate for zombie survival but better than a rubber mallet.

My primary shotgun is my pump 410g that holds 4+1 (4 shells in the tube 1 in the chamber)


PS. Have you even seen the movie? He is a dork that lived by shear luck!"
He's an Aussie, Their gun laws are crap, but like he said, he's no gun expert
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Toasterr
Toasterr
21. RE: Zombie Speed
May 12 2011, 12:37 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2011, 12:37 PM EDT
"But sprinters aren't fair! =;_;="
fair or unfair it just changes the game a little
you will need to either hold tight and wait it out or travel quietly by night to avoid detection

makes travel by vehicle that much harder, since the sound from the car would alert every runner within 200 yards
you'd constantly have a horde behind you
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luke7895
22. RE: Zombie Speed
May 12 2011, 4:00 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2011, 4:06 PM EDT
"I'm hoping that they will be shamblers and not ragers. This is because I LIKE living, and if zombies were real and ragers, I am pretty sure that status would change pretty quick. However zombies are NOT real(yet). I think,though, that ragers would be much more likely than actual undead."
yeah same shamblers would be easy, just like the low rounds of cod while they're still walking and you can slowly knife them apart
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luke7895
23. RE: Zombie Speed
May 12 2011, 4:00 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2011, 4:11 PM EDT
"How fast do you think zombies can walk? I'm hoping they walk slow(TNOTLD) unlike 28 days later. But I think they walk as fast as the walking dead ones."
if any actual zombies (the dead ones being reincarnated) the multiple armies of the world would easily deal with them. so the only serious threat of a zombie outbreak is the airborne virus type which basically controls the body so they would most likely be going as fast as the average human. (lets just hope chuck norris doesnt get infected)
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luke7895
24. RE: Zombie Speed
May 12 2011, 4:14 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2011, 4:14 PM EDT
"okay lets be helpful, reanimation of a deceased person through means of...anything is absurd
the most realistic scenario for a "zombie apocalypse" is a bloodborne pathogen spread through saliva,blood, or other bodily fluids that causes the infected to essentially go insane with rage and attack

this being said they will very likely have all of the motor skills of your average human, minus some higher cognitive functions (hopefully) I,E. realizing switches turn on lights, buttons that open doors, ect
now mind you that the full cognitive abilities of an infected may not be impaired, if that is the case we are all ****** anyways because we will have zombies that can climb ladders and use reason to get to you.

it is very very likely they will have atleast a moderate running pace if not a full on sprint and i would plan according to that
worse case is im wrong and they are shamblers and you will have already planned for runners, making you that much more likely to survive"
plus the fact that if it isnt an airborne pathogen any army will easily deal with a bunch of people running at them, apocalypse over.
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luke7895
25. RE: Zombie Speed
May 12 2011, 4:15 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2011, 4:15 PM EDT
"He's an Aussie, Their gun laws are crap, but like he said, he's no gun expert"
im an aussie, we cant have anything that's semi-auto :/
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rubb3rl3andman
26. RE: Zombie Speed
May 13 2011, 4:23 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2011, 4:23 AM EDT
I think that if their more "realistic" zombie's then they'll probably be abe to run as fast as they could when uninfected...but decomp always has to come into play...fresh=fast...a day or two old=a little slwer/joggers...real old= shamblers and injuries to the legs= limpers/crawlers. either way if you cant defend yourself your screwed from the getgo. Do you find this valuable?    

rubb3rl3andman
27. RE: Zombie Speed
May 13 2011, 4:34 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2011, 4:34 AM EDT
"But sprinters aren't fair! =;_;="
life's not fair...hate to brak it to you but when the zombie apocalypse DOES happen...most of us wont be prepared at the exact time that it does...we all should get used to the fact that ALOT of us MAY NOT SURVIVE....but it never hurt to be prepared...Hope for the best...prepare for the worst and so on and so forth.
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rubb3rl3andman
28. RE: Zombie Speed
May 13 2011, 4:32 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2011, 4:32 PM EDT
"plus the fact that if it isnt an airborne pathogen any army will easily deal with a bunch of people running at them, apocalypse over."
if a zombie outbreak happened most of the army would drop what their doing and get to their families....plus do you really think that the army would just start unloading on a crowd of people? i think not....they'd most likely end up thinkin they were just crazies and try and calm them down resulting in a high amount of military casualties....after so long though they would get the point that if they dont start firing their all going to die a horrible painful death....and when the dead started to reanimate they'd be scared ******** (like any normal person would).
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
29. RE: Zombie Speed
May 13 2011, 5:03 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2011, 5:03 PM EDT
"How fast do you think zombies can walk? I'm hoping they walk slow(TNOTLD) unlike 28 days later. But I think they walk as fast as the walking dead ones."
If they can run, then that comes down to the individuals fitness. Quite a variable. But given that some marathon runners do 26 miles in 4 hours, and most people can do 100m sprint in 15 seconds, you could work something out that seems suitable.

For shamblers, The number I quote is 60 feet per minute. Given they can go non-stop, that translates to 16 miles a day, and almost 3,000 miles a year.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
30. RE: Zombie Speed
May 13 2011, 5:12 PM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2011, 5:12 PM EDT
"yeah same shamblers would be easy, just like the low rounds of cod while they're still walking and you can slowly knife them apart"
You have no idea how an apocalypse scenario would play out. Shamblers are every bit as dangerous as sprinters, and if you continue to underestimate them, you only make them moreso.
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rubb3rl3andman
31. RE: Zombie Speed
May 16 2011, 4:51 PM EDT | Post edited: May 16 2011, 4:51 PM EDT
"You have no idea how an apocalypse scenario would play out. Shamblers are every bit as dangerous as sprinters, and if you continue to underestimate them, you only make them moreso."
Very true man, very true. Cause if everyone keeps underestimating the shamblers they'll treat them as if they aren't a threat and probably be overpowered trying to take on a big crowd of zack.
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jh_marksman
jh_marksman
32. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 6 2011, 11:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 11:31 PM EDT
I would go under what I know about the body. Our muscles need oxygen to work effectively. That said I don't believe that an undead person would really be breathing. So I am as with this topic for everyone assumes that they can't run.

I am going to say I believe that a fresh zombie would be able to run for X amount of time. Until the oxygen was out of their muscles then they would be slowed down to a basic shuffle. Add in the rigamortis and you have a zombie that probably wouldn't be able to go up or down stairs effectively.

The fear I have is that it's going to be people that are not dead but "hot". They have the infection but their heart is still beating. And the fever is what drives them to the brink. Causing them to lose their sense of being a human being and instead become something of a feral animal.

Feel free to message me back. I love a good debate.
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Cantnoscope
Cantnoscope
33. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 4:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 4:05 PM EDT
"I would go under what I know about the body. Our muscles need oxygen to work effectively. That said I don't believe that an undead person would really be breathing. So I am as with this topic for everyone assumes that they can't run.

I am going to say I believe that a fresh zombie would be able to run for X amount of time. Until the oxygen was out of their muscles then they would be slowed down to a basic shuffle. Add in the rigamortis and you have a zombie that probably wouldn't be able to go up or down stairs effectively.

The fear I have is that it's going to be people that are not dead but "hot". They have the infection but their heart is still beating. And the fever is what drives them to the brink. Causing them to lose their sense of being a human being and instead become something of a feral animal.

Feel free to message me back. I love a good debate.
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Honestly I would have to agree with you. Raging, rabid, crazy, whatever, the zed or infected in question still have to abide by basic rules of physiology. Sure, the rage virus may have a 300-pound zed running like an Olympic sprinter, but their muscles are going to give out sometime and they could die from heatstroke depending on how the virus causes the person to act.

Don't forget to take into account that the infection may also affect motor skills and the infected may not be able to run/walk as well or steadily as a healthy human.
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iFont
iFont
34. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 4:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 4:18 PM EDT
"Lets just say Zombie Land Like...

Unless there is a quantity of them you will not need to run much (depending on your shooting ability)

Take the scene from the gas station for example...

if he had shot the bathroom zombie
he would have scanned the area and quickly reloaded

heading back to the car he would have had one shot each, then reloaded

then could have checked the car and seen the zombie in back

no running required just good shooting... incompetence nearly killed him"
Unless you dont have any guns.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
35. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 5:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 5:14 PM EDT
"I would go under what I know about the body. Our muscles need oxygen to work effectively. That said I don't believe that an undead person would really be breathing. So I am as with this topic for everyone assumes that they can't run.

I am going to say I believe that a fresh zombie would be able to run for X amount of time. Until the oxygen was out of their muscles then they would be slowed down to a basic shuffle. Add in the rigamortis and you have a zombie that probably wouldn't be able to go up or down stairs effectively.

The fear I have is that it's going to be people that are not dead but "hot". They have the infection but their heart is still beating. And the fever is what drives them to the brink. Causing them to lose their sense of being a human being and instead become something of a feral animal.

Feel free to message me back. I love a good debate.
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Don't assume anything.

The existence of zombies would alter what we know about physiology, and the pathogen can theorietically alter the host in any number of ways. The old view of "dead" meaning dead, therefore no oxygen transport system to the muscles, has been replaced. Now, "dead" means "cerebral, cardiopulmonary and respiratory systems slowed to such an extent that there is no discernible difference between this comatose state and death".

A combination of physics, chemistry and biology knowledge can produce plausible explanations for almost every zombie archetye, with the exception of 28DL.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
36. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 5:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 5:19 PM EDT
"Don't assume anything.

The existence of zombies would alter what we know about physiology, and the pathogen can theorietically alter the host in any number of ways. The old view of "dead" meaning dead, therefore no oxygen transport system to the muscles, has been replaced. Now, "dead" means "cerebral, cardiopulmonary and respiratory systems slowed to such an extent that there is no discernible difference between this comatose state and death".

A combination of physics, chemistry and biology knowledge can produce plausible explanations for almost every zombie archetye, with the exception of 28DL."
"The existence of zombies would alter what we know about physiology"

how so?
there are many pathogens existing that alter human behavior
i dont see why Zvirus has to be any different
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
37. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 5:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 5:36 PM EDT
""The existence of zombies would alter what we know about physiology"

how so?
there are many pathogens existing that alter human behavior
i dont see why Zvirus has to be any different"
Because zombie archetypes typically ask for a lot of things that human physiology in it's current state cannot provide. The ability to get shot in multiple organs without detrimental effect is a big one.

Zombie pathogens have to do a lot, do it better, faster and in some cases do things that have not been done before.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
38. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 5:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 5:40 PM EDT
i dont excpect zombies that multiply in nuclear firestorms and infect through radio waves.

Only considerable zombie type is one that dies.
Be it rager or shambler, it cant live forever without food, unless they develop chloroplast, and they STILL need water.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
39. RE: Zombie Speed
Jun 9 2011, 5:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2011, 5:58 PM EDT
"i dont excpect zombies that multiply in nuclear firestorms and infect through radio waves.

Only considerable zombie type is one that dies.
Be it rager or shambler, it cant live forever without food, unless they develop chloroplast, and they STILL need water."
Not necessarily. E=mc2 allows for a great deal of energy to be stored in one atom. But we suck at accessing that energy.

Now imagine that the zombie can access that energy at a reasonable percentage. The body would slowly decay, as the matter is turned into energy and absorbed. But the zombie could function for a long time, using up the parts of the body it doesn't use to power the parts that it does.

If the mechanism extends to foreign objects lodged in the flesh, shooting a zombie in the torso could be providing it with more fuel.
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