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Fuel_Fire_Desire |
Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:25 PM EDT
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So I'm skimming the site trying to get a feel for it when I stumble across this page. I just had to join to find out who in the hell thought that these are the top ten. I don't even understand how some of them could make the top ten let alone make it so high in the list. M1 Carbine? Really? What are there about 10 of them left in the world? Mosin-Nagant? Really? A ancient cheapo relic is what you want to trust your life to? I'm sorry guys but you need some people to join who actually know something about firearms. I'd start by inviting some people from the GlockTalk forums to begin with. You kids need an adult here who can explain to you the ends and outs of firearms. Don't go getting all mad, you all just need a serious reality check when it comes to rifles. This list would be laughed off most gun forums. I understand this is a kiddy site where you play pretend but at least inject some realism into your discussions. You could start by including something about food, water, shelter and clothing post-apocolypse. These things are important too. How about talking about BOBs (Thats what folks on survival forums use to break down bug-out-bag.) Its a back-pack that survivalist create in case disaster strikes and you have to get away from your house quickly. I could make a list of what most of them carry and share it with you so you'll know what to pack. This all might sound crazy but these are the things they talk about on real survival sites.
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2WheeledSpeed |
1. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:32 PM EDT
Couple points...First, don't start off your time here by talking down to us. Second, you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the M1. Obviously you've never been to a gunshow. I also don't like the Mosin, but I trust them to work. Third, that list was voted on. It was a popularity contest basically, we've had zillions of people come on here and argue over this list so don't think you've come up with anything original. Oh, and we talk about BOBs all the time. Look around some more... 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:32 PM EDT
Actually... we talk about everything from BOB and BOLs to first aid, Firearms come up... as they always will. We voted as a site on these particular weapons, and the reasoning behind them is in the text.As far as glock talk.... I think we should skip the opinions of anybody from the site that produced the original mall ninja. Begone troll, find somene else to bug 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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3. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:33 PM EDT
Thanks "Dad" maybe you should look around a bit more before you show us all how f**king smart you are.Maybe look here: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/search/everything/bob?contains=bob or here: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/search/everything/shelter?contains=shelter or here: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/4119764/The+Ultimate+Newbie+Guide When you're done with that, fill out your profile, and tell us how you got so f**ckin' smart. 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Fuel_Fire_Desire |
4. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:45 PM EDT
GlockTalk is a well respected forum everyone know that. I'm sorry for making assumptions about your site. It seems as though you might be a little more enlightened than I origionally believed. Either way I am here to add as much as I can and if it seemed as though I was a little overbearing I apologize. You all must admit that the list of weapons does contain seriously old firearms that are no longer used on the modern battlefield. You have a lever action rifle up there for crying out loud. Those haven't been cutting edge since the Eighteen hundreds. You should make a new list that can only be voted on by a select few participants. That would keep the riff-raff from voting and you'd have a list to be proud of.
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Fuel_Fire_Desire |
5. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:47 PM EDT
"Thanks "Dad" maybe you should look around a bit more before you show us all how f**king smart you are.Is everyone here so mature and well-spoken? 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:50 PM EDT
"Is everyone here so mature and well-spoken?"*facepalm* When you piss people off, you get what you get. No offence intended. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2WheeledSpeed |
7. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:52 PM EDT
"Is everyone here so mature and well-spoken?"You did come on here and call us children. We can argue the pros and cons of lever action rifles, or any other rifles you may not consider to be cutting edge, on a different thread. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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8. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:53 PM EDT
We appreciate you coming back and reversing your earlier statements. As far as Loki, well look at our subject matter... Obviously we get lots of trolls.The list wasn't trying to get the best rifles ever manufactured. They were recommended based off of service record, ease of use, accuracy, ammo availability, and ease in obtaining. We weren't trying to go for te greatest rifles ever, just the top ten for our site. Old weapons may be better after TSHTF, as ammo may not support the extravagant ammo usage of modern rifles. There are a lot of well thought out reasons behind them, and we have alot of knolwedgeable gun nuts here. Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 5:59 PM EDT
It was a vote.
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Fuel_Fire_Desire |
10. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:03 PM EDT
"We appreciate you coming back and reversing your earlier statements. As far as Loki, well look at our subject matter... Obviously we get lots of trolls.Thank you very much sir for explaining things in such a mature and thoughtful manner. I am very much embarrased after finding out that the links the colorful Mr. Loki has provided are indeed very informative. I shall have to send him a personal message apoligizing for my bad manners. I still vote for a new list as I believe it is my previlage to do so here. There must be others who find this list lacking. Even so I understand your take on the whole affair and you have made some interesting points. Thank you for being civilized. 0 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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11. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:07 PM EDT
"THIS. In regards to the gentleman, or child, that enjoys trolling.. As a personal pointer, don't take all your knowledge from armchair commandos. Given, they are on almost all sites like this, as well as your jewel encrusted C*ckTalk forum. in addition, all sites face a serious affliction from time to time known as trolls. its like crabs. but its easier to solve.. I believe thats a fair verbal warning, so play nice, and have a look around our site. We have plenty of information and interesting things. Oh and if you find a troll post, try to play nice, but if they're too dumb to accept their standing in life, we'll handle them. on a side note: Most of the "major" forums on the web are not respected well by anyone but the admins on such sites, and the children that think it actually gives them info. Granted, I use Ar15.com to gauge prices of private party sales on certain parts.. but.. just because there are a lot of members doesn't mean its a respectable site. There are more members to porn sites..... to give you a perspective. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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12. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:09 PM EDT
"Thank you very much sir for explaining things in such a mature and thoughtful manner. I am very much embarrased after finding out that the links the colorful Mr. Loki has provided are indeed very informative. I shall have to send him a personal message apoligizing for my bad manners. I still vote for a new list as I believe it is my previlage to do so here. There must be others who find this list lacking. Even so I understand your take on the whole affair and you have made some interesting points. Thank you for being civilized."btw, my former post, just so you know, im not trying to be hostile. Anyway, I thought addressing the firearms was a completely separate issue. Yes, it was a vote, majority ruling. Now, the reason the mosin is on there is because of its amazingtrack record, availability, cheap cost, and overall effectiveness. The m1 carbine.. I believe that would have to go under a "they are still producing it". But im not as much a fan of that as i am of the nagant rifle. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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13. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:12 PM EDT
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"I still vote for a new list as I believe it is my previlage to do so here. There must be others who find this list lacking."I don't agree with everything on either the top 10 rifles or the top 10 pistols lists, but it was a site vote so I let it be, and at least both lists only include guns people can realistically buy rather than fantasy guns from Call of Duty. I can promise you right now that a vote with only a "selected few" is never going to happen on this site. If you'd still like to go for a new list, try PMing a staffmember to ask about a new vote. The topic has come up before, you might have a chance of convincing them. If you'd like to talk about your views on firearms, try starting a new thread in the weapons and gear section. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Fuel_Fire_Desire |
14. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:20 PM EDT
Oh my, I just checked out your handguns list and found a Taurus Judge. Entering a Taurus Judge into a top ten list of handguns is like entering a mutt in the Westminster Dog Show. How uterly mind numbing.
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15. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:20 PM EDT
"GlockTalk is a well respected forum everyone know that. I'm sorry for making assumptions about your site. It seems as though you might be a little more enlightened than I origionally believed. Either way I am here to add as much as I can and if it seemed as though I was a little overbearing I apologize. You all must admit that the list of weapons does contain seriously old firearms that are no longer used on the modern battlefield. You have a lever action rifle up there for crying out loud. Those haven't been cutting edge since the Eighteen hundreds. You should make a new list that can only be voted on by a select few participants. That would keep the riff-raff from voting and you'd have a list to be proud of."GlockTalk...Is that like "HowmyCorvettemademypenissixincheslonger.org?" And as for the age of some of these firearms, you're really overlooking. Many turn of the century firearms were such massive leaps, products of Industrial Revolution and science, that even today they're still capable. Ever heard of the 1911? Just because the gun has a bit of petina doesn't make it any less lethal. If anything, their age and wartime production numbers makes them cheap and in good supply, as they get so often looked over for not being tacticool. That means you can afford to buy and actually shoot one on a fairly regular basis, while the M4A1 SOPMOD sits on a wall somewhere as a glorified conversation piece. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:23 PM EDT
"Oh my, I just checked out your handguns list and found a Taurus Judge. Entering a Taurus Judge into a top ten list of handguns is like entering a mutt in the Westminster Dog Show. How uterly mind numbing."i'll give that one to ya. Like we said, it was a vote. Notice how the Ak47 isn't the #1 rifle? I think that alone rests my case. Sometimes democracy ain't the best. @ inu-dude: yes, its that kinda site. Do you find this valuable? |
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17. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:27 PM EDT
"THIS.Well to you sir I say good day. And to the rest of you little f*ckers a big middle finger up! You douches are slippin'. Not one word about the wall-o-text? Really? I managed to make fools of each and every one of you AGAIN!!! Your little friend Alex banned my IP adress and I went right around it. I cannot be stopped and may God have mercy on your souls! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'DOUL RULEZ!!! 0 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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18. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:29 PM EDT
"Well to you sir I say good day. And to the rest of you little f*ckers a big middle finger up!to be honest the glocktalk part distracted us. btw.. just so ya know.. Its people like you that keep me in my anger managment class 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: Who in the hell came up with these 10?
Mar 16 2011, 6:33 PM EDT
"Well to you sir I say good day. And to the rest of you little f*ckers a big middle finger up!Might I ask how this makes any of us fools, if anything sir, you are the fool. The wall of text is only important if you care much, some admins care, I as a member don't. To go as low as to continuously join this sight just to troll it, shows how little of a life you truly have. Have a nice day noob. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |