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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 4:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 4:30 PM EDT
In z-pok, what is the balance between survival evasion and combat for survival? What are the criteria to be a good "shadow"? What makes a person effective in combat, to the point where not surviving is not even a threat?
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
1. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 4:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 4:38 PM EDT
"to the point where not surviving is not even a threat
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I do not think that would ever be possible and such a thought is even more liable to get you killed. No matter how prepared any of us are at any given time we could catch a stray bullet or even the "lucky" shot from some other cat just trying to survive.

Combat for survival is just what it sounds like. Your fighting to survive which means you have no other options. If you have the option to evade you should always try and take that path. I do not think I can put it as a number like 60/40 % of something like that, I just think I'll have to do what needs to be done as deemed necessary by each situation.

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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
2. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 5:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 5:00 PM EDT
"I do not think that would ever be possible and such a thought is even more liable to get you killed. No matter how prepared any of us are at any given time we could catch a stray bullet or even the "lucky" shot from some other cat just trying to survive.

Combat for survival is just what it sounds like. Your fighting to survive which means you have no other options. If you have the option to evade you should always try and take that path. I do not think I can put it as a number like 60/40 % of something like that, I just think I'll have to do what needs to be done as deemed necessary by each situation.

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I agree.
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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
3. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 5:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 5:09 PM EDT
give me examples of how you guys would handle different situations. stealth, combat, water gathering, food gathering, other supplies. why is the way you chose that way? Do you find this valuable?    
ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
4. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 5:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 5:32 PM EDT
"give me examples of how you guys would handle different situations. stealth, combat, water gathering, food gathering, other supplies. why is the way you chose that way?"
I understand what you are wanting me to tell you but you have to actually set up a situation for me to give you a legitimate answer.

Basically I would quietly live out my existence without trying to gather too much attention until something came along that might impact that.
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x-wolfhunter
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5. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 5:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 5:51 PM EDT
I'm just going to invent a scenario for you.
Say I'm close to out of water, only a few mouthfuls left. I happen to wander to a small spring. However, there are four zombies walking around it. I would first try to find another way to access the water to refill my bottles/canteens. If I can't find one, I would then wait for a few minutes to see if the zombies are going to move on. If they haven't, I will then find the best spot to start shooting my bow at them. When a couple are facing me, I'll fire twice, aiming for an eye each. Hopefully, since I've got preparation time, I'll hit at least one of my marks. For the sake of the thread, lets say I miss both. Lets also say they noticed the arrows before they flitted into the trees on the opposite side of the spring. Now I have four zombies on me. Normally, I would run, but they are in the way of me reaching the water supply. Now I fight in earnest. I'll fire off as many shots as I can before they're too close for comfort, then get to work with my ax (As long as half of them are down from my arrows; if not, I'll lead them on a little adventure through the woods and double back), killing the rest of them, therefore opening up the water supply.
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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
6. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 6:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 6:18 PM EDT
thats a perfectly legitimate answer lol its my hope too (@ mancub) Do you find this valuable?    
ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
7. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 6:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 6:22 PM EDT
"thats a perfectly legitimate answer lol its my hope too (@ mancub)"
Lol thanks.
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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
8. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 17 2011, 6:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 17 2011, 6:31 PM EDT
"I'm just going to invent a scenario for you.
Say I'm close to out of water, only a few mouthfuls left. I happen to wander to a small spring. However, there are four zombies walking around it. I would first try to find another way to access the water to refill my bottles/canteens. If I can't find one, I would then wait for a few minutes to see if the zombies are going to move on. If they haven't, I will then find the best spot to start shooting my bow at them. When a couple are facing me, I'll fire twice, aiming for an eye each. Hopefully, since I've got preparation time, I'll hit at least one of my marks. For the sake of the thread, lets say I miss both. Lets also say they noticed the arrows before they flitted into the trees on the opposite side of the spring. Now I have four zombies on me. Normally, I would run, but they are in the way of me reaching the water supply. Now I fight in earnest. I'll fire off as many shots as I can before they're too close for comfort, then get to work with my ax (As long as half of them are down from my arrows; if not, I'll lead them on a little adventure through the woods and double back), killing the rest of them, therefore opening up the water supply."
stealth, surprise, cunning, and tactics. thats the ticket :)

what would make it easier for you to do that? think more 3rd person, how could you set some one up so that its impossible for them to fail? thats my big question, is there a perfect kit/set of tactics to circumvent any situation with minimal risk?
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
9. RE: whar's tha balance??
Mar 22 2011, 1:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 22 2011, 1:02 AM EDT
"stealth, surprise, cunning, and tactics. thats the ticket :)

what would make it easier for you to do that? think more 3rd person, how could you set some one up so that its impossible for them to fail? thats my big question, is there a perfect kit/set of tactics to circumvent any situation with minimal risk?"
adaptation...
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