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Zig_Carver	To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 11:28 AM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 23 2011, 11:53 AM EDT To everyone who made a post on zombie survival that mentioned guns: Guns are loud. Sure you can kill a zombie quickly enough (if you are a decent shot) but that one gun shot has the potential to alert and draw in more zombies. If the zombies keep coming in then eventually you run out of ammo. End of Zombie Survival. Fortunately for all you trigger happy individuals, there are some crossbows that fire at speeds of 350+ feet per second and come equipped with a scope to help with accuracy. Sure they aren't as quick as far as reload times may go but they are quiet and the bolts can be gathered and reused. Melee weapons have advantages and disadvantages as well. While they never require any reloading, they do require you to have the physical strength to damage the brain enough to kill the zombie as well as getting up close enough to actually take care of it. I don't know what your guys' ideas of zombies are but there have been many different variations over the years. For example you have your slow, stupid zombies like in Shaun of the Dead, or the faster, smarter, and stronger variations from the Resident Evil series. Personally my idea of your average zombie is of the one depicted in the Zombie Survival Guide: Slow, strong, unintelligent opportunists. Zombie Apocalypse survival is essentially a waiting game. Eat or be eaten, survival of the fittest/most intelligent. You are up against other survivors as well as zombies. Eventually the zombies run out of food and waste away. If anyone manages to survive then it becomes their job to repopulate what is left of the earth. My plan is very area specific and relies on varying skills I have picked up from survival training and scouting in rotc, as well as hunting and tracking i learned from my dad. The outdoors is my second home and i have no problems staying their for extended periods of time :) Post reply 6 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: lots of plans... plans zombie survival help zombie survival plans
Maricely	1. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 12:02 PM EDT Welcome to the site Zig. I don't know if I would describe any active member here as "trigger happy". Sure, those of us with guns include them in our survival plans, but that doesn't mean we rely on them 100%. And we know guns are loud. Anyway, glad to have you here. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
LJ126	2. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 12:31 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 23 2011, 12:37 PM EDT "To everyone who made a post on zombie survival that mentioned guns: Guns are loud. Sure you can kill a zombie quickly enough (if you are a decent shot) but that one gun shot has the potential to alert and draw in more zombies. If the zombies keep coming in then eventually you run out of ammo. End of Zombie Survival." Guns are indeed loud. However, it's very unlikely that one person is going to be the only person taking a shot at zombies, especially at the very beginning of the zombie apocalypse... unless you're in all but the most populated of areas, the slow shambling of nearby zombies simply won't make it to you in time before you move away. For this reason, most of us advocate the "Shoot and Move" philosophy. Take a well-aimed shot or two, then hastily move to a better position! Don't move unless it offers an advantage of some kind, which there is always one that will. Repeat as needed. This tactic is used quite effectively by guerrilla forces worldwide - it works especially well against static or slow-moving units. It would work REALLY well against zombies, since it takes them some time to get to you, and they're not going to be shooting back. Indeed, another advantage to this tactic is that magazine capacity makes little difference too - a bolt action gun is nearly as effective using this sort of firing tactic. If there are too many zombies, you just don't shoot! You just regroup, or completely ignore that specific horde until a later date. Anyway, welcome to the site, always glad to see folks who think outside of the box. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
randomknife666	3. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 1:04 PM EDT " Personally my idea of your average zombie is of the one depicted in the Zombie Survival Guide: Slow, strong, unintelligent opportunists. Zombie Apocalypse survival is essentially a waiting game. Eat or be eaten, survival of the fittest/most intelligent. You are up against other survivors as well as zombies. Eventually the zombies run out of food and waste away." I'm sorry but, you say that your idea of an average zombie is the ones from the zombie survival guide, however you also state that they will starve/rot, just to point out one flaw with that (no offense intended) but the zombies from the guide are stated not to starve, or rot. You remind me of a certain someone else who stated that guns are a bad idea. I personally prefer guns, but I'm also familiar (and quite decent) with a bow. Most people on this site know about trigger discipline and most of us would only fight in a situation where they have no other choice. Dont assume that anyone on this sight doesnt already know most of what you say here. Now have a nice day, and please try not to annoy everyone. We would like another constructive member. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	4. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 1:32 PM EDT Yep...To each his own... Thanks for letting us all know that guns are loud. Post reply 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Sharpie41	5. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 1:49 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 23 2011, 1:50 PM EDT The search box is our friend!! We all know guns are loud (Thanks btw, I forgot they were....) and we all have discussed the merits of crossbows, what you are telling us is nothing new Post reply Do you find this valuable?
possumblaster	6. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 2:01 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 23 2011, 2:04 PM EDT I'll tell you what I tell everyone else. This site is about being prepared. I am prepared for the zombie apocolypse. Will that ever happen? 99.999% chance that it won't. However, being prepared for the zombie apocolypse also has me prepared for pretty much any situation that may rise up. If you are prepared for ONLY a zombie apocolypse, then you aren't really prepared. No matter what catastrophic event ever happens, people are going to lose their minds. Supply chains will be shut down, and people WILL turn on themselves to survive. And, that is because 99% of the population doesn't know how to take care of themselves without McDonald's and Wal-Mart. For example New York has what, 8 million residents or so right? How much food is produced inside the city? Do you live in a city? If a group of armed guys kick your door in to come steal your food or maybe do some looting, are you going to hold them off with a crossbow? Nope, you will be good as dead. Do you live in the country? Well, all of those who live in the city will be trying to get out to find sources of food and water. And, when desperate they won't be asking nicely for it. That is why I am such a promoter of owning and training on firearms. You need to be prepared for anything. Post reply 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
BigLoki	7. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 2:11 PM EDT "Guns 're baaad...mmmmkay?" Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
kinelta	8. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 2:45 PM EDT My gun has been awfully quiet. Glad I have it though. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
shootTHATshit	9. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 3:17 PM EDT "I'll tell you what I tell everyone else. This site is about being prepared. I am prepared for the zombie apocolypse. Will that ever happen? 99.999% chance that it won't. However, being prepared for the zombie apocolypse also has me prepared for pretty much any situation that may rise up. If you are prepared for ONLY a zombie apocolypse, then you aren't really prepared. No matter what catastrophic event ever happens, people are going to lose their minds. Supply chains will be shut down, and people WILL turn on themselves to survive. And, that is because 99% of the population doesn't know how to take care of themselves without McDonald's and Wal-Mart. For example New York has what, 8 million residents or so right? How much food is produced inside the city? Do you live in a city? If a group of armed guys kick your door in to come steal your food or maybe do some looting, are you going to hold them off with a crossbow? Nope, you will be good as dead. Do you live in the country? Well, all of those who live in the city will be trying to get out to find sources of food and water. And, when desperate they won't be asking nicely for it. That is why I am such a promoter of owning and training on firearms. You need to be prepared for anything." DAMN!!!!! I agree. Harsh! But I agree. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
P0LaND	10. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 3:37 PM EDT I weigh out the pros and cons of guns each time one of these threads are created, and I just can't see where the cons of using a gun outmatch the pros. By the way, you aren't from the UK, are you? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	11. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 3:58 PM EDT At the bottom he mentions skills picked up in ROTC so I suppose not. Still, @ Zig, I would definitely recommend the search bar before starting a thread. Not that your point isn't valid, it's just one that's been discussed ad nauseum, and to the point that generally, while a gun, or any noise for that matter, may attract zombies in the immediate area, most gunfire is too loud for the human ear to hone in on for more than general direction. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zig_Carver	12. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 6:17 PM EDT Thanks guys I appreciate all of the helpful advice and the constructive criticism...I'm definitely not here to irritate anybody or ruffle any feathers. I apologize for the silly remark and my cocky attitude that posted it. My cousin and I just spent the duration of Shaun of the Dead creating another zombie survival plan. I got a little ahead of myself and made this thread after reading the first thread I saw which had to have been by a gun crazy 16 year old. Nice little tangent there but I do sincerely apologize :) Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Zig_Carver	13. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 6:19 PM EDT "I weigh out the pros and cons of guns each time one of these threads are created, and I just can't see where the cons of using a gun outmatch the pros. By the way, you aren't from the UK, are you?" Nope...not from the UK. From the US, Central California Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	14. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 6:28 PM EDT "Nope...not from the UK. From the US, Central California" Oh, California. In a few years you'll have the same gun laws as the UK. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
toxic_shock	15. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 7:14 PM EDT "Nope...not from the UK. From the US, Central California" Same thing. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zig_Carver	16. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 7:20 PM EDT Gun laws have always been around and they are always changing. Sure getting your hands on new guns may be increasingly difficult but thankfully I come from a family of hunters and already have quite the collection at my disposal. So unless the Gov't literally comes and searches my families houses and manages to find and seize all of our guns (which could happen but is unlikely) then I don't have too much cause to worry. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	17. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 7:33 PM EDT The thing is Zig, for the folks who've put in a couple of months on the forum they have seen threads similar to yours on an almost weekly basis. Guns vs bows is like .22 long rifle threads and AR-15 vs. AK-47 they get brought up a lot and many of us who've been here a while have seen these kinds of subjects vetted again and again. Should new members get the chance to discuss these things for the first time? Yes they should but please try and use the search engine to see if there are any threads on the subject that have been brought up lately. Welcome to the site and just consider this your typical "new guy" hazing. We truly are happy to have you here and I hope you continue to contribute. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SovietPrince	18. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 8:15 PM EDT "Gun laws have always been around and they are always changing. Sure getting your hands on new guns may be increasingly difficult but thankfully I come from a family of hunters and already have quite the collection at my disposal. So unless the Gov't literally comes and searches my families houses and manages to find and seize all of our guns (which could happen but is unlikely) then I don't have too much cause to worry." Kommufornia Eh? Lolz. It would take quite a while for an arms ban to actually take effect in the US. I can however, guarantee that there are plenty of folks out there that will start civil war with the federals if their rights are infringed upon. Shame Kommufornia doesn't stand up and do something.. meh. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
chitoryu12	19. RE: To each his own.. Mar 23 2011, 9:07 PM EDT Just speaking on a more scientific basis on the noise of guns here. If you heard a distant gunshot while out in a field, would you be able to tell how far away it is? How about the exact direction rather than a general statement like "I think it was over there?" A dog could probably follow a gunshot if it was close enough, but not human ears. They're simply not sensitive enough. A zombie is little more than an undead/enraged human, so they'll have the same hearing as us. They might go in the right direction or they might be off by half a mile by the time they get near your position. The next problem is that sound doesn't just blaze through solid objects. In a city or forest (especially a forest), the massive amount of thick, solid objects in an irregular pattern break up the sound wave and make it more difficult to discern the location AND make it quieter. You'd only really have a chance of following the shot if you and the shooter were in a completely flat, empty field or desert. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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