"Why is everyone so convinced that military bases will be overran? Have any of you seen Camp Pendleton, 29 Palms, Ft. Irwin, etc? These are very very large bases with units widely spread, with a lot more protection than many would think. This is just an impossibility to me."

"Those bases would need resupply to maintain an offense. The providers (makers) of those supplies would also need protecting.
The makers of the individual materials required for those supplies would also need protecting.

One would also need to move those supplies which requires fuel for either trucks or helicopters which means the fuel producers, and takeoff sites would need to be protected. Parts for repairs, producers of said parts, and the techs to install them would also need to be present. These folks probably live local and have local family as well. Hence a conflict.

All to resupply a base. At least 2 (extreme minimum) extra locations would be required.

And I don't even know how often a base is supplied to keep its troops fed and clothed and armed.

Camp Pendleton is situated in area with quite a large population* (easy infection) which means that overun is not "impossable".

*The census is telling me a little over 3 million (supposedly current as of '09) is the populace but that rings false to me but due to it's location in Cali the population would be quite large.

29 Palms may fare better but not enough to warrant an actual fight. If they put forth an offensive. They would also require the above.

Fort Irwin is also in Cali with its associated population."

"You have to remember these are military installations with food, generators, water etc, specifically for the purpose of disaster preparation and relief. The possibility of Camp Pendleton being overan is slim, but 29 palms nearly impossible."

"I have taken that into account. Have you accounted for the rate in which those supplies will be used?

The possibility that your base may turn into an emergency med station?

There is in fact a very defined end point in which you'll be able to effectivly fight without resupply and unless you can manufacture more you are hosed."

"Really all depends on what "type" of zed we are dealing with. If they are Romero Zombies, they we have tanks, APCs, Strykers, and close air support from Miramar, with Cobra's and F18's. Then we have North Island Naval Station for some naval bombardment. Plus Marines on the ground. I mean sure you can walk in but with a huge chunk taken out of ur arm? Your a$ would be taken to sick bay or Balboa and ud probabally be quarantined. Or the hospital on Pendleton. Either way, overrunning those entire bases is clearly not possible through conventional walk ins."

"There is in fact a very defined end point in which you'll be able to effectivly fight without resupply and unless you can manufacture more ammo, food, and fuel you are hosed."

"Well aren't you a ray of fcking sunshine today? Glass half-full kind of guy? I kid, I kid.

Agreed, there are parts of some of the larger bases where you can simply walk in. Security is tight, and supplies are finite. There is one thing that we have that the zombies do not, which carried us through Korea, Vietnam, and pretty much every conflict we have been involved in since its invention, which you failed to mention...


....Motherfcking helicopters. WE WIN. "

"Helicopters?

Okay so you need fuel, pilots, techs for refueling and repairs, and defendable liftoff points.
Or as I said before "One would also need to move those supplies which requires fuel for either trucks or helicopters which means the fuel producers, and takeoff sites would need to be protected. Parts for repairs, producers of said parts, and the techs to install them would also need to be present. These folks probably live local and have local family as well. Hence a conflict."

It still requires more than one location to be defended as well as one of those locations having a surplus of gear to give.

Not trying to argue but I'm not quite seeing the impossability here."

"Are you in the military? We have all of those, with various helipads and units across the base. Security is tight, I'm an MP its kinda my job to make sure it is. "