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fixdeluxe1 |
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Sharpie41 |
1. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 2:01 AM EDT
"Does anybody have any suggestions as to the viability of a pick-up truck with a light machine gun or similar weapon mounted to the rear?"Not very unless you have an MG Do you? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
cas13f |
2. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 2:03 AM EDT
Sharpie beat me to it.Damn you Sharpie, I would have had that but it took too long to logon. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharpie41 |
3. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 2:15 AM EDT
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"Sharpie beat me to it.Hahaha sorry, just got off XBOX play COD:BO Just had to check ZSDW Do you find this valuable? |
Avtomat_Kalashnikova |
4. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 10:22 AM EDT
If you have a MG, and a pickup, why not? But do you? No. It is not a viable option for human vs. zombie combat either as it would be very hard to get headshots with a MOVING machine gun. However, against humans, when headshots are not necessary, a MG on a pickup is a half decent option.Do you find this valuable? |
USNtwidget |
5. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 11:24 AM EDT
"If you have a MG, and a pickup, why not? But do you? No. It is not a viable option for human vs. zombie combat either as it would be very hard to get headshots with a MOVING machine gun. However, against humans, when headshots are not necessary, a MG on a pickup is a half decent option.with a .50 or a 12.7mm you could immobolize the zombies by blowing their limbs off or shattering their spine or pelivs. this takes care of the imediate threat and if your only trying to escape that may be all you need. if not just dispatch a squad to go deliver easy head shots to the now crawling zeds. thats my two cents :) Do you find this valuable? |
JunkCollector |
6. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 11:33 AM EDT
The only problem I see with a pick up is the open bed. If a zombie gets close it could climb in while your shooting at other zombies. You will need back up, to watch your rear end.
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Sharpie41 |
7. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 12:01 PM EDT
"The only problem I see with a pick up is the open bed. If a zombie gets close it could climb in while your shooting at other zombies. You will need back up, to watch your rear end. "I would totally do this if I had both (You can actually get Semi-Auto MG's here, but they're expensive) and if I did I would raise the sides of the truck and put 2+ people in the back, one manning the gun, one with a shotgun or something for close range Do you find this valuable? |
brandon_a_boyer |
8. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 3:27 PM EDT
It's a pretty easy fabrication, all you have to do is weld a post into the truck bed and take a good quality caster wheel (sans wheel) and weld that to the top of the post, that will give you your two axis of motion.They actually make kits for 10/22's so that you can convert them in an AA style dual-barrel setup. So i've considered doing this. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
chitoryu12 |
9. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 6:56 PM EDT
There's a few problems with this setup.1. You're extremely open unless you build some kind of rotating armored box, which would be both difficult to build and rather heavy for the truck. It's easy for a fast zombie to climb into the bed or a good shooter (or just a few guys spraying at you) to take you out. 2. How good is your aim while moving? Even with good suspension you're going to be rocking around a lot, which can throw off your aim enough to make hitting a moving target difficult. 3. The big problem of machine guns: ammo usage. As I explained before, it's not easy to hit targets, especially moving ones (like zombies). If you want a confirmed kill, you'll need to fire relatively long bursts. Ammo is at a premium when factories aren't making any. 4. If the vehicle rolls, you're pretty much dead in a few seconds. The best way to prevent this is to build a strong roll cage and make some contraption that can keep you in the bed in case of a flip without limiting the gun's mobility. And try not to accidentally shoot the roll cage. 5. Is this a good use of resources, or could the gun, ammo, and mount/cage materials be better spent elsewhere? Do you find this valuable? |
deathseekrakodo |
10. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 7:08 PM EDT
combine with one more and a peened over pin and that gives the pivot
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brandon_a_boyer |
11. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 7:14 PM EDT
You wouldn't want another caster, that would kill the support. you only need one caster and one pin.You want to use bolts as well instead of peened over pins, you want to be able to easily work on the mount if something does happen (I swear you folks have some morbid obsession with peening things.) Do you find this valuable? |
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deathseekrakodo |
12. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 10 2011, 7:27 PM EDT
"You wouldn't want another caster, that would kill the support. you only need one caster and one pin.well, assuming you have the mounting plate for the bottom of the mg, that would be great. Do you find this valuable? |
Filadog |
13. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 12 2011, 6:59 AM EDT
"Does anybody have any suggestions as to the viability of a pick-up truck with a light machine gun or similar weapon mounted to the rear?"Years ago I made a mount fthat attached to the roll bar on my old samurai for my Maxim Machine gun and we shot many grounddhogs using it .,,,great fun Heres a photo of it in action http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2300199/aview/1173101584598_MVC_001F.JPG Using something like this In the post apocalyptic world is just fantasy thinking of course...Very few people would have a gun like this and then I doubt they would they have enough ammo for a "tactic" like this . Also what is it that you are figuring on shooting anyway,... the entire North Korean Army? Do you find this valuable? |
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chitoryu12 |
14. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 12 2011, 3:31 PM EDT
Remember that technicals are really only used when you don't have anything else available (like the African militias with Toyotas) or actual armor would be impractical (like the famous SAS trucks with Vickers K guns). There's a huge amount of disadvantages to a technical that you have to answer before it's truly viable, and by that point you could probably be putting those resources to better use.
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inu-dude25 |
15. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 12 2011, 10:03 PM EDT
One potential upside I do see to this that others seem to be overlooking is using an MG as a mobile marksmen's platform. IF you had a fuctioning MG with ammo and knowledge to use one, and IF you had the proper mount to control recoil and give you the ability to effectively aim, it could be useful for use in picking zombies off one or two shots at a time.For example, if you were using a convoy, one guy using a technical to pick off nearby zombies while your group scavenges for supplies, gas, water, etc could be effective in holding a small area down, freeing up the others to quickly finish scavenging. Do you find this valuable? |
VagabondVance |
16. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 12 2011, 10:10 PM EDT
"http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2300199/aview/1173101584598_MVC_001F.JPGHow duck-hunt should of been... Do you find this valuable? |
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fixdeluxe1 |
17. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 15 2011, 11:10 PM EDT
"There's a few problems with this setup.Very good points there. I would say,instead of that,maybe have the MG mounted above the sun-roof of an SUV,so that your physically a small target.The swivel box could then be made easier(since it's smaller) or you could just get some thick ballistic plates and stick em to the side of the weapon(or some kind of welded mount). Do you find this valuable? |
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fixdeluxe1 |
18. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 15 2011, 11:12 PM EDT
"It's a pretty easy fabrication, all you have to do is weld a post into the truck bed and take a good quality caster wheel (sans wheel) and weld that to the top of the post, that will give you your two axis of motion.That is what I was thinking. I have an old deactivated MG34 that could be mounted for looks Do you find this valuable? |
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inu-dude25 |
19. RE: Technicals anybody?
Apr 15 2011, 11:15 PM EDT
That's a great idea until you remember you're trying to mount an MG, it's turret, and ammo atop a roof already compromised by a precut hole and the motor setup moving the glass.Unless you started by first tearing out the interior, essentially caging the SUV to support the roof, and then built a mount that would reliably give you the aim and stability needed to kill zombies, you'd probably break something within the first few bursts of fire. And of course, the questions of where's the MG coming from, where's the ammo coming from, do you know how to use one efficiently, and can you fabricate the mount necessary for it all still apply. Do you find this valuable? |
