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ItsMrManCub |
The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 4:23 PM EDT
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So the outbreak occurred and you survived. The following months were tough but still you managed to survive. Your stronghold consists of a home with a natural water source and thus allowed you to have a great amount of crops. Although you have been quite successful, you have always had a problem with another group of survivors in the area. One day while out hunting with your trusty canine you hear gunshots. You rush back home to your base to find it in flames. Everyone is dead. The neighboring gang attacked your group while you were gone and everyone(both sides) is dead except you. All you have with you is your hunting pack. One rifle(choice)=3 full reloads One pistol(choice)= 2 full reloads Utility blade/melee fire starter light tarp(shelter) water purification canteen What will you do now? The firefight has made a lot of noise so the area is not safe and your shelter is destroyed. Your crops are destroyed and all that survived from your livestock is one single cow. The next few hours will be very crucial. So tell me how will you cope with being a new found nomad. Do you find this valuable?
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DLOWTHEMAD |
1. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 4:47 PM EDT
I will rope the cow for companionship and move into the country side, preferably staying in the woods and maybe wander my way nowhere in particular. Being a wandering judge, killing raiders and others I can get the drop on that don't deserve to waste oxygen others might need.Fortunately, there are lots of deer, rabbits, groundhog, racoon and possum around here to hunt. I also have a pretty in depth knowledge of edible plants in the southern US. So quality of life as far as providing for my self, the cow, and the dog shouldn't be too bad. I would likely try really hard to avoid people and places where they gather. If my group died, my kids did too... and I doubt I will be a nice person. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
2. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 5:25 PM EDT
Okay well assuming we get to pick the location I'd probably relocate to some caverns that are in the area.They go for miles and have water running through them. Dismal yes but it's large enough to work from. The cow would be brough along and would be killed and any edible parts would be smoked/cooked for storage. Like DLOW I would probably not be very nice at that point. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
3. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 5:29 PM EDT
"Damn man, this thread really makes me sad. If every person I held dear was gone including my wife and children it would be hard to keep from putting a gun to my head. The hardest thing about this whole scenario would be keeping yourself from calling it quits. Geranimo lost his wife and children and it inspired him to perform great and daring raids on the Mexicans across the border who killed them. He became spirtual and was a firebrand to an entire nation of people. Giving up would be letting the people you lost down IMO. You were given life when others died by fate or for some greater purpose. I would harness the cow and use her as a pack animal, gathering everything useful I could from the camp as well as the fallen. I'd get away from camp and set out, trading the cow as well as any supplies I didn't need at the first safe oppertunity. From there I would just wait for a sign from above to show me the way and do my best to honor the fallen by not traveling down a dark path. I'd look for some way to make sense of the tragedy that had befallen me and work towards finding ways to still do good in a world full of evil. A little corny? Probably. My honest answer? Yes. Do you find this valuable? |
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Sharkai |
4. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 5:44 PM EDT
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I'd find those responsible and **** them up. I assume I would have some idea of where there base was if they were a neighbouring gang. I would set up base in another location and slowly map out the area around their base. They will probably send out patrols and I will find them, kill/loot them and then eat them. I would occasionally take a prisoner and torture them to find out more information When I had gathered everything I needed and knew enough about them I would attack. When the fighters were crippled from limp shots I would move in and **** the place up. I'd find out the friendships within the group, then I would burn one of them alive and make the others eat them. I would stick the decapitated heads to poles around the area to completely demoralise them. After many weeks/months of hell and when they were all dead I would kill myself, my revenge would be complete. ... Sometimes I scare myself. I wouldn't do something like that. I would probably just try and find other survivors to group with instead of turning into a complete psychopath. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
5. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 6:08 PM EDT
Now see Timber I don't see it that way.For me the hard part (and likely thing what would drive me to flay every bad guy I find) would be the knowledge that while I was away hunting my family and those I would have come to care for were getting slaughtered hoping that I would come help them. I believe there are some instances where survival is more curse than blessing. It's not "Oh I lived" it's "Oh I failed to protect those most dear to me and survived to see their eyes as I buried/burned them." Do you find this valuable? |
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DLOWTHEMAD |
6. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 6:24 PM EDT
"I believe there are some instances where survival is more curse than blessing. It's not "Oh I lived" it's "Oh I failed to protect those most dear to me and survived to see their eyes as I buried/burned them." "This... this exact tendency of man kind would drive me to be some crazy viking batman. Scenario: 3 Raiders sit around campire Raider 1 - Did you hear that? Raider 2 - Probably just that girl we picked up, she ain't goin anywhere Raider 3 - want another beer Raiders 1+2 - of course *raider 3 gets up and walks out of the firelight around the end of a nearby car* *loud crunching noise where he just went* Raider 1 - wHat the h*ll! Raider 2- Jim? *peers into the darkness around the fire* *both men pull pistols and look around nervously* * a lone cow wanders into the firelight* Raider 1&2- WTF!?!?! *as they stare at the cow a sick crunch sounds and Raider one falls face down on the ground... his head looks like it was run over by a car. Raider 2, shocked, turns slowly and tries to raise the pistol in his numb hand... he has just enoughtime to see a large man with a bush beard swinging what appears to be Gallaghers mallet at his head* *crunch* The next morning... Raider leader- This is ****** up!! (nudges the dead Raider one, still lying next to the fire) Raider suck up- I know boss Raider leader - well get the car Raider suck up- OK *ingition sounds* *BOOOOM* 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 6:46 PM EDT
"This... this exact tendency of man kind would drive me to be some crazy viking batman.Awesome, though I wouldn't wire explosives to the car Do you find this valuable? |
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DLOWTHEMAD |
8. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 6:50 PM EDT
"Awesome, though I wouldn't wire explosives to the car"It's a honey pot... Something to draw in more targets... In a post apocalyptic North America there shouldn't be a shortage of cars, so it wouldn't bother me to use one to kill 2 or more raiders Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
9. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:19 PM EDT
For all purposes of creativity say your in your general location of the world. You know the area better than me. For instance...My location is surrounded by rivers, lakes and lots of forest. I would take to the wild for multiple reason... 1. I could stay hidden. 2. I honestly believe I could provide for myself in the most basic needs of food, water, and shelter. 3. I would have the necessary elements to build with. Although I may have to go hunter/gather for a bit the eventual goal would be to hopefully find more people and another community. If I had it before then I can get it again with hard work. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
10. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:20 PM EDT
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"If my entire group was slaughtered I would most likely be laying there right there beside them if I'd been there. Those are the cold hard facts unless your name is Chuck Norris. Looking at it from that prespective the fact that I'm alive has to either be a fluke or part of a greater plan. I believe that Mr. Cub said that both parties perished. If any of the raiders survived "life" would take care of them. That lifestyle is a path to destruction. How is it somehow better that they died by my hand? Will thier death by my hands make my children live again? My wife, my friends, my neighbors? How many good people who deserved to live died today? How many bad people who deserved to die lived to see another day? Would I seek revenge on any surviving raiders? Honestly, yes I most likely would. How would I do it? Revenge would be a dish best served cold. Your emotions would either get you killed or keep you from killing them all if you sought revenge too early. Thing is revenge would leave a man a shell of his former self and the hole inside him that used to be occupied by his loved ones would still be empty. Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
11. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:22 PM EDT
Also note that both parties eliminated each other. The immediate area has no living people but you. So basically you may be a town away, a county, or even a state from another human civilization.
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ItsMrManCub |
12. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:23 PM EDT
"Would I seek revenge on any surviving raiders? Honestly, yes I most likely would. How would I do it? Revenge would be a dish best served cold. Your emotions would either get you killed or keep you from killing them all if you sought revenge too early. Thing is revenge would leave a man a shell of his former self and the hole inside him that used to be occupied by his loved ones would still be empty."That is deep. I actually needed to sit and let it sink in for a bit. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
13. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:29 PM EDT
"Whew. You had me worried there Sharkai. You're still banned from any ZSDW grill outs until further notice. Do you find this valuable? |
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Filadog |
14. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:29 PM EDT
"I will rope the cow for companionship "Well I won't touch that line ! [grin] I don't see anything in the above scenario that would make me turn into a nomad at least not right away' First I would be very surprised that you couldn't salvage somethings from your home base. Unless the two groups strangled each other with their bare hands or stabbed each other with ice sickles if everyone from both groups are dead there must be their weapons still there. If your livestock is dead you need to butcher them and dry or preserve the meat I would think even if your home was torched it would still be better to try to make a shelter out of what you have left then to hit the road and hope to find it along the way. Sounds like the one thing that made this area less then idea, the neighboring group, is no longer a problem. I'd rebuild where you are if possiable, if not leave after you get what you can from what is left, crazy to just head out with the few items listed. Depending on the Cow you might be able to use it for a pack animal or even to pull a cart. I've worked some with oxen and was alot easier to train them then I thought though we started with young ones Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
15. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:44 PM EDT
" Well I won't touch that line ! [grin]Scavenging the weapons and preserving are definitely good ideas and loopholes in my scenario. Hanging around too long may be a bad idea as the noise has attracted all nearby zeds. Once again I'll let you decide how many you want to imagine it to be. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
16. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 7:52 PM EDT
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At least iit's a purpose Timber.Do you find this valuable? |
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someoldbullshit |
17. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 8:43 PM EDT
""...How many good people who deserved to live died today? How many bad people who deserved to die lived to see another day?...""Sounds a little gandalf-ish. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
18. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 8:49 PM EDT
"Sounds a little gandalf-ish."Well, yeah....Ever see "The Fellowship of the Ring"? Thats similar to something ol' Gandalf said....I think. Been a while since I saw that movie but I'm pretty sure he said something like that to Frodo. Do you find this valuable? |
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JunkCollector |
19. RE: The Nomad
Apr 14 2011, 8:54 PM EDT
This is from what I own:hunting pack. One rifle(choice)=3 full reloads - SKS with 30 rounds on strip clips One pistol(choice)= 2 full reloads - Glock 22 with 2-15 round mags. Machete - Hunting knife (instead of machete) fire starter - Barbecue lighter light tarp(shelter) - 8'X6' camo. tarp water purifier - 25 water treatment tablets canteen - 2 liter square canteen I would go through and try to salvage some food, and more water. Tie a rope on the cows neck and try to lead it. If it won't be led then let it loose. If it will be led walk it to a planed secondary BOL, where emergency supplies will be buried for an emergency escape. Take my cow and all that I can carry on me and on the cow, (pack cow). Try to find a friendly new group, if needed I can trade my cow and the location of the other supplies my group buried at the secondary BOL. I wouldn't go and hunt down what's left of the other group, that will probably just get me killed. Do you find this valuable? |