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tvercetti1
tvercetti1
What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 15 2011, 8:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2011, 8:53 PM EDT
I would love some suggestions for us all as to what to do if and when supplies are either low or completely gone during the mass panic stage of events. It doesn't matter the reason why (could be the B.O.L. or B.I.L (bug in location) got raided, burned down, blown up, structural failure (for whatever reason). I would like this so as NOT ONLY to be prepared in advance (which I am a little bit) but also to know what to do if one of us ever finds ourselves in this situation and is FORCED to go out to look for supplies/weapons/etc. in order to survive.

These are the items you are restricted to:
1) 1 - Kabar knife 7 inch blade
2) 1 - 2 foot wrecking bar (crowbar)
3) 60 matches
4) 1 BiC lighter
5) 1 pair leather gloves
6) 1 small flashlight (no way you should use it as a weapon)
7) 1 magic striker (fire starting tool, good for 20,000 strikes)
8) 1 pocket multi-tool (not quite a leatherman but somewhat similar)

These are all the items you can use and ONLY these. Help me to make a plan of action for this WORST CASE SCENARIO! I need the plan to be centered around living in a suburban neighborhood in a big city. NOTE: Attempting to obtain supplies in the middle of the mass panic should be avoided at any cost! This reference is intended STRICTLY as a LAST RESORT and not as a reference for "mall ninja's" Try as we may, some of us may not be able to be fully prepared. I myself would NOT be if the z-poc happened tomorrow.
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
1. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:24 AM EDT
Whatever you have to do. 3  out of 11 found this valuable. Do you?    
tvercetti1
tvercetti1
2. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:35 AM EDT
"Whatever you have to do."
Short. Sweet. To the point but lacking in any details. I kinda would like to know what my best chances nd bets are for finding supplies when all hell is braking loose just before everybody goes zombie on my a$.
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
3. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:38 AM EDT
Do what you have to do. 1  out of 10 found this valuable. Do you?    
BigLoki
BigLoki
4. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:41 AM EDT
It really depends I guess... personally I'd make my way out from the center, and away from the highways. If you are listing just that, I assume you have to bug out. You can't contend with that many people all freaking out at the same time. Find a small patch of trees. Suburbs usually are near larger parks. Stay hidden, make a small shelter that blends in with the surroundings... ride it out as best you can. When the dust settles a bit, see what you can scavenge.

Keep the fires and such to a minimum, if at all.... sounds like you're kind of screwed, but with out knowing more about the area and such that's all I can do.
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tvercetti1
tvercetti1
5. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:44 AM EDT
"It really depends I guess... personally I'd make my way out from the center, and away from the highways. If you are listing just that, I assume you have to bug out. You can't contend with that many people all freaking out at the same time. Find a small patch of trees. Suburbs usually are near larger parks. Stay hidden, make a small shelter that blends in with the surroundings... ride it out as best you can. When the dust settles a bit, see what you can scavenge.

Keep the fires and such to a minimum, if at all.... sounds like you're kind of screwed, but with out knowing more about the area and such that's all I can do."
See? that's the kind of stuff I was trying to get at! THANK YOU!
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
6. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:49 AM EDT
My replies still stand. If you need supplies, do what you need to do to get them. There's not much need going into further detail. 0  out of 12 found this valuable. Do you?    
tvercetti1
tvercetti1
7. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:54 AM EDT
Its deep in the urban or as the GF and I call it, "The Asphalt Jungle". There are some stores around but im just worried because of obviously people are gonna want the supllies we have right? so I would like to stay away from the stores but as to where else I could go or stuff. I don't wanna just scream "You! you're infected! Gimme your sh*t!" *BOOM!!!! thud.* and take their supplies! 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
8. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:58 AM EDT
"Do what you have to do" still stands. 1  out of 13 found this valuable. Do you?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
9. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 1:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 1:14 AM EDT
Don the gloves, grab the K-Bar and kill whatever/whoever stands in your Bug Out Path or tries to steal or destroy your supplies. Obviously, if you live around the corner from a Walmart and your basement along with all your pre-packed supplies flooded the day before the SHTF, then intelligent thought will likely fall to basic needs and fulfilling them. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
tvercetti1
tvercetti1
10. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 1:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 1:28 AM EDT
"Don the gloves, grab the K-Bar and kill whatever/whoever stands in your Bug Out Path or tries to steal or destroy your supplies. Obviously, if you live around the corner from a Walmart and your basement along with all your pre-packed supplies flooded the day before the SHTF, then intelligent thought will likely fall to basic needs and fulfilling them."
Well now, that just might get me somewhere. Again, hope it doesn't come down to it but its good to know.
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deep_sea_diver
deep_sea_diver
11. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 8:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 8:14 AM EDT
The first course of action would be to try to find what you need in abandoned buildings. The next would be to barter for what you need with services, etc. Trying to take supplies by force will most likely get you killed. Anyone, with anything of value will have it nailed down, or not have it to begin with. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Filadog
Filadog
12. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 10:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 10:23 AM EDT
I would get wood staff or stick, wouldn't be to hard to cut down a small sapling using your Kbar. Sharpen the end and it would make a close range weapon while not looking that intemidating if you are using it like a walking stick

I would want something I can carry what I scavenge in, would be great if you could find a back pack but if not even a canvas bag would be good. Also maybe a shoping cart or baby stroller

Having a crowbar will allow you to scavenge areas that many other "casual" looters wouldn't be able too. Besides the obvious places like shops and stores look also in the back of tractor trailors and car trunks.
Beside food and water look for weapons, tarps, rope , clothing and other useful items

I'd look for a safe place to hold up too. Someplace that isn't that noticiable and could be defended somewhat. Someplace that you could also hide your supplies that you found. Best not to have everything in one place either
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Heyoldguy
Heyoldguy
13. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 10:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 10:44 AM EDT
"I would get wood staff or stick, wouldn't be to hard to cut down a small sapling using your Kbar. Sharpen the end and it would make a close range weapon while not looking that intemidating if you are using it like a walking stick

I would want something I can carry what I scavenge in, would be great if you could find a back pack but if not even a canvas bag would be good. Also maybe a shoping cart or baby stroller

Having a crowbar will allow you to scavenge areas that many other "casual" looters wouldn't be able too. Besides the obvious places like shops and stores look also in the back of tractor trailors and car trunks.
Beside food and water look for weapons, tarps, rope , clothing and other useful items

I'd look for a safe place to hold up too. Someplace that isn't that noticiable and could be defended somewhat. Someplace that you could also hide your supplies that you found. Best not to have everything in one place either"
I think this is an excellent example of what a person...say, Filadog should do....In a word, IMPROVISE

This of corse is perfect for him, and with slight modification will work for 90% of the populace.

What I am trying to get at is that no one here can tell you "WHAT YOU SHOULD DO"
because everyones situation will vary. It comes down to you using your mind to improvise and overcome the shortfalls in your situation to the best of your ability.
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JunkCollector
JunkCollector
14. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 11:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 11:37 AM EDT
Walk 50 feet from the South East edge of the house and move the windmill. Use the K Bar to dig down two feet, and retrieve my back up stash tube.

Inside the tube is a synthetic stock Marlin .22 s.a. tube fed, 550 rounds of .22 l.r., 4 MRE's, spare key to my storage shed (that has a back up BOB and other supplies), and map marked with two other buried tube locations.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
15. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 11:46 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 11:46 AM EDT
"Walk 50 feet from the South East edge of the house and move the windmill. Use the K Bar to dig down two feet, and retrieve my back up stash tube.

Inside the tube is a synthetic stock Marlin .22 s.a. tube fed, 550 rounds of .22 l.r., 4 MRE's, spare key to my storage shed (that has a back up BOB and other supplies), and map marked with two other buried tube locations."
Okay, but what if unforeseen circumstances have forced you away from your home, with little or no possibility of getting back to it, before being able to retrieve these things? What then?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
16. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 11:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 11:54 AM EDT
"Walk 50 feet from the South East edge of the house and move the windmill. Use the K Bar to dig down two feet, and retrieve my back up stash tube.

Inside the tube is a synthetic stock Marlin .22 s.a. tube fed, 550 rounds of .22 l.r., 4 MRE's, spare key to my storage shed (that has a back up BOB and other supplies), and map marked with two other buried tube locations."
Oh son! You're good.
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tvercetti1
tvercetti1
17. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:47 PM EDT
"I think this is an excellent example of what a person...say, Filadog should do....In a word, IMPROVISE

This of corse is perfect for him, and with slight modification will work for 90% of the populace.

What I am trying to get at is that no one here can tell you "WHAT YOU SHOULD DO"
because everyones situation will vary. It comes down to you using your mind to improvise and overcome the shortfalls in your situation to the best of your ability."
While that's true, I still want some suggestions for guidelines with which to follow.
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tvercetti1
tvercetti1
18. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 12:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 12:49 PM EDT
"Walk 50 feet from the South East edge of the house and move the windmill. Use the K Bar to dig down two feet, and retrieve my back up stash tube.

Inside the tube is a synthetic stock Marlin .22 s.a. tube fed, 550 rounds of .22 l.r., 4 MRE's, spare key to my storage shed (that has a back up BOB and other supplies), and map marked with two other buried tube locations."
Very nice! That's good that you got extra resources hidden away...if you can get tothem in time. Damn, I like the sound of that.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
19. RE: What to do if supplies are low.
Apr 16 2011, 2:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 3:05 PM EDT
"Very nice! That's good that you got extra resources hidden away...if you can get to them in time. Damn, I like the sound of that."
I agree, having extra resources cached away is a great idea, one that I think I'm going to start doing as well. But JunkCollector maybe you might want to have a cache or two buried at easily accessible locations other than your own property, just in case you are forced away from your own property for some reason and can't get to them (although, being the sort of guy who caches stuff to begin with, maybe you've already done that.)

Edited to Add: Upon rereading your post, it appears that you HAVE done this. Apparently I overlooked that the first time, my bad. Just out of curiosity, would you be able to find those other tubes without the map that's in the first tube? Just in case you can't get the first tube that is.
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