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anninhilator
anninhilator
Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 6:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 6:21 PM EDT
We think that it is a FACT that when SHTF there will be no power. However, as the number of humans decreases, so does the power consumption. There are a lot of power plants that can work with little to no maintainace such as hydro, wind and solar(dont tell me there is none in your relative vicinity) which can easily power a large group of survivors. I do not know if nuclear power plants could continue to work but they were not on my mind.

I have aircraft carriers and submarines on my mind. Their reactors are built to live long and they have all the crew they need to sustain it. I doubt the military will need all of its nuclear powered vessels and I see no reason why would not they provide power to the public(survivors). It is a win-win situation. Military gets the control, people get power, protection and help in general(assuming that the military does not decide to go rogue). Those mobile reactors just COULD provide enough power for survivors...

Sure, power relays can fall, but they can be repaired as well
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EastCoaster9000
1. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 6:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 6:29 PM EDT
Uh-huh...
1) These facilities are big, hard to take over.
2) They may seem simple, but really are they?
3) A nuclear plant is the last you want to mess with. You best be lucky if they shut it down if the crew goes missing.
4) Do you know how to tap the electricity?
5) And as for military, in state of national emergency, they will most likely use ALL nuclear vessels and will not be giving freebies to the citizens. And no, you will not hi-jack one.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
2. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 6:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 6:35 PM EDT
i am talking about post panic. If soldiers want to stay for years in the open sea, then so be it.

your point 1- a wind turbine does not require people to function unless it malfunctions
3-what if there ARE qualified men to operate it? It is almost unlimited source of power for needs of thousands of survivors
4- you used the word "you", so my answer is yes, but no on a big scale. However, i am certain that some survivors including those on the vessels do
5- i am talking about when things settled down a bit ie. post panic times
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EastCoaster9000
3. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 6:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 6:42 PM EDT
So what if it's post panic? That just makes it slightly less harder.
Now you have no operational crew, plenty of human hunting monsters, possible nuclear disasters, and you would have to operate the whole thing on your own.
I highly doubt people would stay in their plant, they would flee.
And how are you gong to guard the place? Can you make sure none of the equipment is malfunctioning? What if the dam tubes are blocked? What if the computers aren't working?
Just some ideas.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
4. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 6:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 6:52 PM EDT
"So what if it's post panic? That just makes it slightly less harder.
Now you have no operational crew, plenty of human hunting monsters, possible nuclear disasters, and you would have to operate the whole thing on your own.
I highly doubt people would stay in their plant, they would flee.
And how are you gong to guard the place? Can you make sure none of the equipment is malfunctioning? What if the dam tubes are blocked? What if the computers aren't working?
Just some ideas."
i am NOT going to operate nuclear reactors on my own, i assure you that!
I am just sayin that power plants are there. Some are even automatized. If there are a couple of humans that do know what are they doing, they could get the dam working.
And as I said wind turbines dont require people.
Why do i have to guard it??

Besides, military vessels are supposed to be the point of the thread so please stick to them
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cas13f
cas13f
5. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 8:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 8:21 PM EDT
"Uh-huh...
1) These facilities are big, hard to take over.
2) They may seem simple, but really are they?
3) A nuclear plant is the last you want to mess with. You best be lucky if they shut it down if the crew goes missing.
4) Do you know how to tap the electricity?
5) And as for military, in state of national emergency, they will most likely use ALL nuclear vessels and will not be giving freebies to the citizens. And no, you will not hi-jack one."
Generally, you wouldn't want to actually take any of them over. Just a waste of manpower. If it isn't malfunctioning, something hasn't gone wrong yet and unless you're a tech, you really shouldn't interfere.
The wind turbine itself is extremely simple, though built on a very large scale. It's a very simple mechanism that is even miniaturized today. THe various converters and transformer stations? Not so much.
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cas13f
cas13f
6. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 8:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 8:22 PM EDT
"So what if it's post panic? That just makes it slightly less harder.
Now you have no operational crew, plenty of human hunting monsters, possible nuclear disasters, and you would have to operate the whole thing on your own.
I highly doubt people would stay in their plant, they would flee.
And how are you gong to guard the place? Can you make sure none of the equipment is malfunctioning? What if the dam tubes are blocked? What if the computers aren't working?
Just some ideas."
Do you realize what it would take to block not only one chute, but ALL of the chutes in a given dam? It takes a hell of a lot to block just a single one. They're pretty large.
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EastCoaster9000
7. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 20 2011, 8:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 20 2011, 8:28 PM EDT
Alright alright so I'm flawed. :P Do you find this valuable?    
anninhilator
anninhilator
8. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 26 2011, 6:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2011, 6:30 PM EDT
what do soldiers here think?
If anyone is on such a machine...
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Madurjafro
Madurjafro
9. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 26 2011, 8:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2011, 8:11 PM EDT
Wind power is obviously the most viable, and with the correct knowledge you can set one up quite cheaply.

solar requires a bit more knowledge and some advanced materials such as the silicon plates needed (I think). Less Viable unless set up before SHTF

Both of these together would provide a nice power output, combined with Daisy-chained batteries, you can keep some low power things running. A CB Radio should run fine off this if you want to monitor the waves for survivors etc.

Nuclear power is the kind of High-tech **** that you don't want to be touching unless you ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DOING.

Seriously That stuff could blow right up in your face without warning, and thats bye-bye you and anything for some hundred miles due to radiation.

If you think taking Submarines or Aircraft carriers is going to work then... Good Luck and nice knowing you, if they sailors aboard don't shoot you or they are not around, then good luck starting the ship and caring for the reactor.

Also noting that a ton of people might notice a ship heading out of port and might flock towards it, implying that you probably don't know how to sail an aircraft carrier nevermind a submarine you would probably slowly drift off while a flock of people are trying to get on.

By the off chance that you do get a submarine or ship going, how are you planning to stay hydrated and fed on the ship? I suppose on a Aircraft carrier you could possibly load the flight deck with tons of soil and plant stuff on it, but seriously.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
10. RE: Nuclear and other power
Apr 28 2011, 5:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2011, 5:24 PM EDT
whAT THE F*CK?????

DID I SAY I AM GOING TO OPERATE THE VESSEL?
do you even read my posts, seriously?
read the first post please
short summary- i am talking about cooperation between military and civilians
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