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=jesse='s survival plan
Apr 28 2011, 11:36 PM EDT
Hey everyone, new member here. Thought this would be a good place to start. I welcome criticism.When the apocalypse hits, I'm hunkering down in my own home. I actually do have a fairly decent amount of supplies. I try to make it a point when I go to the grocery store to buy a couple cans of beans, fruit, spam, etc. (not to mention spam is freaking delicious). I also pick up the big jugs of water since they're all on sale for a buck. Right now, I've probably got enough food and water to last my wife and I between 7-10 days without having to venture out, and that;s without rationing what we have. This is acceptable to me. I figure it will take about 7-10 days for the big dust to settle. My home is in a cul-de-sac, single family, in Virgina. I'm close to the mountains and giant rock quarry. My downstairs windows are glazed with security film. Won't stop a bullet, but will take some hard hits with a crow bar to break through. I have a basement with 1 entrance and easily seal-able. I'll probably stay upstairs though with my wife. Now to the good stuff...weapons. I have 2 mossberg 500's with 20 inch barrels, both with 7 shot capacity. I also have a Springfield XD-45, and an AK-47. Total combined I have plenty of magazines and a few thousand rounds of ammo. Not quite enough for 6billion people in the world....but it'll keep them off my yard at least for a little while. When supplies get low, hopefully dust is settled. We pack, take our radios, head for the mountains and make shelter somewhere near water. After that, I figure we get busy repopulating and start enjoying freedom from a mortgage and taxes. Do you find this valuable?
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ItsMrManCub |
1. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 28 2011, 11:43 PM EDT
Welcome and thanks for sharing this with us. It looks like a solid place to start. Do you have a BOB(bug out bag) ready? Just wondering if you have gear for your trek to the mountains. If you do have a BOB would you mind sharing the contents with us?
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=jesse= |
2. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 28 2011, 11:57 PM EDT
Actually oddly enough no I don't...although I know I probably should. I've been under the assumption that I'd have enough time to make one once shtf. I need to buy a backpack. Right now all we have is my wife's pink victorias secret luggage. I shouldn't be too picky about color in the apocalypse...but it's still embarrassing. I do keep a leatherman though that I usually wear on my belt. Multi-tool is good. I've usually got an assortment of tools and rope in the back of my truck, which we'd be using to get to the mountains. If I could only pack a few things though outside of my firearms, it'd be extra lengths of rope, maybe some small windchimes to set on trip wires for noise alerts, an extra knife, some clean socks, batteries, and a blanket. Maybe stuff in some neosporin, bandaids, and a couple power bars too. Figure I can make do from there. Do you find this valuable? |
LadyAeries |
3. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 1:55 AM EDT
Looks like a decent idea so far.Do you have a place in mind for the mountains? Do you have a route? A secondary route, just in case? You also mentioned windchimes for noise alerts on trip wires. While I think a noise alert is a great idea (I'll have to consider that in my own plan), windchimes are made to make noise when the wind blows, so they might end up giving away your position if used in the middle of nowhere. Nothing comes to mind immediately on what would be better to use. Suggestions, anyone? Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
4. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 2:06 AM EDT
" I've been under the assumption that I'd have enough time to make one once shtf. "Thats one mistake that could for sure get you and your lady killed. Prepare now because you may not be so blessed when shtf. Do you find this valuable? |
Maricely |
5. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 10:18 AM EDT
"Actually oddly enough no I don't...although I know I probably should. I've been under the assumption that I'd have enough time to make one once shtf. I need to buy a backpack. Right now all we have is my wife's pink victorias secret luggage. I shouldn't be too picky about color in the apocalypse...but it's still embarrassing. "Aside from being disgusting, a pink backpack would also make you easier to spot. I'd go with an earth tone. Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
6. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 10:23 AM EDT
"Aside from being disgusting, a pink backpack would also make you easier to spot. I'd go with an earth tone."A girl that doesn't like pink??? Kidding, my GF doesn't like pink much either Do you find this valuable? |
#4buck |
7. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 12:29 PM EDT
Hey, all. Long time no see. May I suggest to Jesse that "defense in depth" is a good mantra to apply to almost every aspect of Z planning? For example, planning for supplies or stocking BOBs begins very small - search here and find many discussions of pocket survival kits - and goes up to very large, like supplies so heavy or so much they can only be carried in a vehicle. I have a pocket-sized multi-tool, a heavy lock-back knife, an Altoids tin holding fire, water, light and 1st aid, a tiny pistol and ammo, an emergency blanket and poncho and three sealed, lifeboat food bars, all contained in a cheap, backpackable, drawstring bag. I have two of these - one in my front hall closet and one in my car. This is the smallest, most basic of BOBs. All the stuff fits in my pockets or I can wear the bag. From there I have more essential stuff in a shoulder bag including compass, real flashlight, actual food and water, etc. Then there's my medium size ALICE pack with a frame bearing stuff as heavy as real clothes/boots, ammo for serious weapons, a light sleeping bag and light tent, and the pistol belt w/tools and magazines and holster that attached to it. Then there's all the stuff that would have to be packed into a car - food, water, ammo, tools, more clothes - you know the drill. I think my point is be sure you first have at hand what's actually going to get you through the next day if you have to go tear-assing out of the house with no warning. Then assemble the stuff you can carry if you have two minutes to think first. Then that which you can pull together with 15 minutes lead time, etc. You're certainly on the right track. Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 1:08 PM EDT
I have old windchime covers when I had to pack them. The idea is to keep a light cover around it and close to camp. Have the string attached to a chime and off into the woods. The noise, if loud enough, can give my position away, but so will pulling the trigger.I know a few spots up in the mountains near water. No shelters or buildings, but enough for a camp site. Gonna start loading up on a bug out bag. Can't deal with victorias secret...no matter how spacious her luggage may be. Do you find this valuable? |
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#4buck |
9. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 1:36 PM EDT
Okay, one more then I gotta go to work.Regarding advance warning devices - all the way back to Marines in the Pacific who affixed tin cans to their barbed wire, what about cans on strings? Or, if you want the equipment to be purpose-built, the little bells that clip to fishing rods for bottom fishing and ring when the rod tip bounces? And more than that, I've always been attracted to extremely heavy monofilament fishing line as a tripwire/improvised fence. if you hah 500 lb test mono (yes, you can get 500 lb mono http://www.blueoceantackle.com/monofilament.htm) strung/stretched knee-high between trees in a circle around your camp, it could conceivably trip them, and it would also support your noise-makers. Shoot, if you could afford to haul a big spool of the stuff, it could function as an improvised fence/entanglement for a temporary camp. I mean, you couldn't mess with it if it was just you and your honey on bicycles sneaking through Zombieland, but if your group of 20 traveling in five vehicles meant to dally for a couple of days, it might be worth the trouble. And yes, I've considered ordinary, ranch type barbed wire, but it's heavy and it's BARBED wire - not really an issue to Zed but a real pain for you to handle. Jesse - Sportsman's Guide. I swear they have more surplus backpacks, gas mask bags, bread bags, courier's bags and duffel bags than you can imagine, and they're cheaper than most real GI surplus stores. For about $30 + shipping you can get two backpacks and two shoulder bags - more than enough carrying capacity to get you started. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
timberrattler |
10. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 2:29 PM EDT
First off welcome to the site man. Great to have you here.Sounds like you have the beginings of a good plan. Take a look around the site and enjoy your time here. Do you find this valuable? |
FrankLeeDeRainged |
11. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 2:34 PM EDT
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It sounds as if you do some hunting up in the mountains, from the guns. Though what exactly you hunt with the AK I don't think I want to know!Local knowledge may be the thing that will have to fill in for everything you didn't pack so it's going to be a very valuable commodity. My recommendation, spend as much time up their as you can spare. Plants, wildlife, inhabitants and weather patterns, knowing about them will help you in everything you do, not knowing. . . . _ Do you find this valuable? |
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12. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 4:06 PM EDT
Wow, good tips from everyone. #4buck, thanks for tip on finishing line and sportsman guide. I wouldn't mind carrying a good size shovel. Figure if I have time I'd like to dig a large trench all around us. Do you find this valuable? |
qazlp10 |
13. RE: =jesse='s survival plan
Apr 29 2011, 4:41 PM EDT
I like your plan, you have an idea but its still open ended enough to be changed on the go. I alot of people plan to much, every detail is mapped out. But then if one thing goes wrong their screwed, the whole plan falls apart. I say be ready to move anywhere at anytime and keep your survival skills sharp and you're good to go.I figure I'll mainly "wing it" when the SHTF. Do you find this valuable? |
